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Video artifacts during POST!! Should I put my GPU in the oven? YES!! (Read 4130 times)
Mar 3rd, 2010 at 2:24pm

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Hello again,

This week has been one of those where everything seems to explode in your face... A few days ago, a tall truck went past my street and clipped the net cable, leaving me isolated from the world (we have overhanging poles here), then a biker rammed the rear end of the car... (not serious, but now we got a broken tail light)

And now this is happening to my rig... I'm getting artifacts consistently now, even during POST... A quick search showed that it's probably the video card... and it seems this is one of those things that can't really be fixed without getting an entirely new card...

Well, my GPU (eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX 768) is not covered by the lifetime warranty, so RMAing it is not an option... nor is buying a new one at this point, so I have to find a way to fix it... Even if this fix only holds for a few more months... I could replace my card later, but right now it's just not gonna happen...

To make things worse, I don't have a backup card (not one that will fit in my motherboard anyways)...
So, I'm ready to try a desperate solution.

A google search of my problem brought up a very bizarre, but at the same time plausible idea that could work... at least some people are claiming to have had success with it...

Basically the idea is to strip the card of all plastic parts, and stick it in the kitchen oven  Huh
5 to 8 minutes in a preheated 200ºC oven is supposed to reflow the solder and fix microfractures in it.  Shocked

I'm just about getting desperate enough to try this... the card is kaput... I can't have the computer on for more than 5 minutes without seeing magenta pixels that resemble aliens from space invaders, then the computer crashes (or at least the display freezes, I can't tell) and I'm forced to shut it down... resetting the computer makes the artifacts appear during POST, so I'm almost certain that it's a hardware problem with the GPU...

But, being scared of toasting 1000 dollars worth of video card... I wanted first of all to confirm with you guys here that the problem is, in fact, the video card. This solution could just as likely kill the card or actually work (the risk of destroying it is way too high to try on a card that can be otherwise saved)... so this is a completely last possible option idea. If I don't have anything to lose, I might just try it... It won't kill it any deader...

What do you guys think?

Cheers

« Last Edit: Mar 4th, 2010 at 3:12pm by HarvesteR »  

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Reply #1 - Mar 3rd, 2010 at 2:37pm

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What an absolutely hillarious  and entertaining story, is it for real?!

I guess you should try the baking solution, because it sure looks like your card is caputo, sorry!

By coincidense, I have a similar card as a reserve - in Denmark - but the problem is I'm currently in Thailand, so I can't ship it to you!

Sorry...

Cheers Smiley



 
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Reply #2 - Mar 3rd, 2010 at 2:44pm

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Thanks for the quick reply man, and the offer  Smiley

The thread looks real... even with pictures and all... and a lot of different people have reported resurrecting hardware this way... even xboxes that were red ringed  Shocked

It might just work... so if I don't have anything to lose... hey, let's bake some hardware  Cheesy

The idea was so bizarre in fact, that I posted a thread in the Mythbusters forum about this... who knows?  Grin

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Reply #3 - Mar 3rd, 2010 at 6:02pm

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Ok, I decided I'm gonna do it... The card is fried right now... it can't get any worse...
I went out and got some thermal paste for when I put it back together... and the guy at the computer store thinks my fix could work... so let's see...

I just wish I had a backup card so my rig wouldn't be down and out if this 'procedure' goes south...

Hmm.. now that I think of it, I have this 16MB 3DFX card from the steam age... It's almost not a graphics card these days, but at least it has a VGA port  Roll Eyes

I wonder if this motherboard even has standard PCI ports...

As you can see I'm not too confident in my crazy fix  Wink

Cheers

EDIT: Well, I took out the video card, just to see if it would fit in the electric oven... I'm going electric because it's way more controlled than the gas stove, it has a thermostat so it will keep a steady temperature, and a dial that at least has temperatures written on it and, as the Mythbusters would say, I wanna give this 'myth' the best possible chance of working  Cool ...the card just barely fits in there (it's a big boy)

And after a quick look of the motherboard (I'm amazed at how little I've actually looked at it) it does have one of the ye olde PCI ports

So, I'm going for it tomorrow!! here goes nothing!!  Cheesy

Cheers again
« Last Edit: Mar 4th, 2010 at 12:20am by HarvesteR »  

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Reply #4 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 2:30pm

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DEAR GOD!!!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EVEN THOUGH I'VE DONE IT MYSELF!!!! O M G!!!!!! THIS IS INSANE!!!

IT WORKS!!!!!!!


I am posting this from the very computer that just had it's video card baked in a 200°C oven!!!

All artifacts are gone!!! IT WORKS!!! I still don't believe it!!!  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

There aren't enough shocked smileys to express how uttelry flabbergasted I am!!
I honestly feel like the Mythbusters must feel when a completely improbable myth turns out true!!! Hysterical laughing and all!!! OMG!!!

I have pictures of the whole 'procedure'!!!

Man, I think I'm gonna stick everything that breaks into the oven!!! Even the car with the broken tail light!!!  Grin Grin Grin

OMG!!!

I'll post pictures when I'm done laughing hysterically!!!!

I think this is one of those rare glorious occasions when one can truly say: "There. I fixed it!!"  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Cheers!!! (I'm still laughing)
 

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Reply #5 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 2:38pm

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Wow, nice one! Good to see a remedy is at hand! Still got the same performance that it used to have?
 

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Reply #6 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 2:42pm

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It seems to be as good as new!!!

Dear god!! I still don't believe it!!!
 

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Reply #7 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 3:09pm

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Ok, I've managed to gather myself again enough to post pictures of my 'fix'
Sorry for the blurries... my mobile camera is behaving badly Tongue

Card stripped of all removable parts:
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Propped up on 4 tin foil balls:
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She's ready to burn now!!
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Fresh out of the oven!! Good as new!!!
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I'm still laughing in case you're wondering!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #8 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 3:26pm

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There's been quite a few people who've had success using this method.
http://www.hardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1421792

Glad to hear that it worked for you.  Smiley
 

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Reply #9 - Mar 4th, 2010 at 3:29pm

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That's where I got the idea!! over 40 pages of people successfully baking their hardware back to life!!  Grin Grin

Too bad I couldn't register there to thank the OP... apparently they banned gmail adresses from creating accounts  Tongue and I don't have any emails on other providers...

Well, it works!! Myth confirmed!!  Grin

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Cheesy NEW PC SPECS: Intel Core i7 920 - 6GB Corsair DDR3 PC12800 RAM- Intel DX58SO Mobo - Geforce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 - 3x LG1952h LCDs through Matrox's TH2Go - 640GB Seagate Barracuda 7200Rpm  - 200GB Maxtor 7200Rpm - Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Keyboard - 5.1 Surround and a Saitek X52 Pro and Pro Flight Rudder Pedals  -- Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64

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Reply #10 - Mar 5th, 2010 at 12:05am

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Just a follow up: left the rig on for the entire day and the card held up!! I wasn't playing or stressing the card all that time, so I thought a little pressure test was called for. A quick play test earlier had shown some unusual lag on ArmA 2, but I just attributed it off to the natural tendency the game has to lag depending on the mission you're playing...

So I thought I'd do a little benchmark to see if there was any perf loss after the fix... Well, there was a strange phenomenon during my little test... The game started up fine, just as before... but after about 5 seconds into the actual mission, the lag mounted up and stabilized at abut 3-4 FPS...  Sad The strange part is that alt tabbing out of the game and going back into it seemed to relieve this lag, and then it mounted up again after a few seconds...

But I can't pin this on the fix just yet... It's too late today to go into extensive trials... Tomorrow I'm gonna test with a freshly started rig and see if the problem is still there... there might have been apps running that could have caused the lag and the blame would not at all fall on the GPU then... so let's see...

Anyways, even if I did lose performance for gaming... at least I have a working computer now... remember I couldn't even have it on before the oven fix... and this card was due for replacement soon (wishful thinking  Roll Eyes )

If only the fix holds up for another month... or even a few more weeks...

Well, I can always bake it again if I need to  Grin

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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:48pm

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If you try baking your mobile phone let me know!  Grin
 

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Reply #12 - Mar 25th, 2010 at 10:21am

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Several years ago, a friend's floatplane was upside down in a lake - don't ask.  The radios were there overnight before retrieval then placement in an oven, as you described.  He was an FAA electronics tech so I suspected he knew what he was doing.  Cutting to the chase, I bought his transponder and it squawked perfectly for over ten years in my panel.
 

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Reply #13 - Mar 25th, 2010 at 11:54am

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olderndirt wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 10:21am:
Several years ago, a friend's floatplane was upside down in a lake - don't ask.  The radios were there overnight before retrieval then placement in an oven, as you described.  He was an FAA electronics tech so I suspected he knew what he was doing.  Cutting to the chase, I bought his transponder and it squawked perfectly for over ten years in my panel.


Cool!! baking is a good technique for stuff that's been submerged... if left for a long period of time under low heat ( no more than 100ºC I think), you can evaporate all the water and it has a good chance of coming out good as new!!

BTW, it's been almost 4 weeks since the oven fix, and the card is still holding up perfectly!!
The lag in ArmA 2 is weird, but I suspect it's not related to the card... other games are running without problems  Cheesy

The rig even survived being checked into a flight when I moved to Mexico (it's a rough trip for luggage)... the card is still ok even after the pounding it surely must have received at the airport... how's that for stress testing?  Grin

Cheers
 

Cheesy NEW PC SPECS: Intel Core i7 920 - 6GB Corsair DDR3 PC12800 RAM- Intel DX58SO Mobo - Geforce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 - 3x LG1952h LCDs through Matrox's TH2Go - 640GB Seagate Barracuda 7200Rpm  - 200GB Maxtor 7200Rpm - Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Keyboard - 5.1 Surround and a Saitek X52 Pro and Pro Flight Rudder Pedals  -- Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64

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Reply #14 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 9:52pm

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That's awesome!!!!!
Ugh, my iPod is acting up, maybe I'll bake it!!! Cheesy
Congrats on your mini-mythbuster success. Smiley
 

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