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Mar 1st, 2010 at 10:54am

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I have a question and i figured some of you must be real pilots and possibly even commercial pilots....I was just wondering what is a really good school to go to to become a commercial pilot because i find searching google doesnt help at all Huh so i was hoping some of you might have a good idea  Smiley
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:49am

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Well it would depend on where you are located, but there are many fine college in the US that offer aviation related degrees.

That being said, there is a growing trend for pilots not to actually go to college for aviation, but for something else, just acquiring your license on the side.  The reason being, aviation is a very competitive career, and at this time, not a well paying one for many.  Sure if you stick it out, or get lucky as a corporate guy, you can make a decent living getting to fly.  But it never hurts to have a backup plan and degree to fall back on.  For example, our local FBO owner and chief pilot has a degree in History, and is state licensed to teach it.  Granted he may never need it, but if aviation takes a nose dive, or even if a medical condition grounds him, he has a career to fall back on.

Myself, I attended Louisiana Tech University, started in Professional Aviation, then switched to Aviation Management.  Now I work in airport operations, so I get to be around airplanes all day long, and just fly as a hobby.  I just got burned out on flying all the time, and didn't want to ruin my favorite hobby.
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 1st, 2010 at 11:32pm

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"Commercial pilot" means a pilot who holds a commercial certificate. It's commonly done as an add-on to a PP.
There's really no special school for that; just about any school or independent instructor can provide that training.


Here are the requirements:

Be at least 18 years of age

Hold a private pilot certificate

Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language

Accumulate and log a specified amount of training and experience; the following are part of the airplane single-engine land class rating requirements:

    * If training under Part 61, at least 250 hours of piloting time including 20 hours of training with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including several "cross-country" flights, i.e. more than 50 nautical miles (93 km) from the departure airport (which include Day VFR and Night VFR 100nm between points, with a time of at least 2hrs; also one cross country which is done solo 250nm one way, 300nm total distance with landings at 3 airports) and both solo and instructor-accompanied night flights
    * If training under Part 141, at least 190 hours of training time including 55 hours with an instructor and 10 hours of solo flight, and other requirements including several cross-country, solo, and night flights

Pass a 100-question aeronautical knowledge test

Pass an oral test and flight test administered by an FAA inspector, FAA-designated examiner, or authorized check instructor (Part 141 only)



With a CP, one can legally fly "for compensation or hire". This means everything from test pilot to banner-tower, and everything in between.

You may notice that no instrument or instructor's rating is required to hold a CP and get paid to fly, just the PP and the commercial.

However, they cannot act as PIC on flights carrying pax or cargo on scheduled routes, regardless of what type of aircraft it is... that is the privilege of the Air Transport pilot, aka the "airline pilot."

Now, if you're talking about becoming an airline pilot, that's a different matter.  Grin

To  act as PIC on flights carrying pax or freight on scheduled routes (for compensation or hire), you need an Air Transport Pilot certificate, which itself requires the instrument rating and commercial rating as prerequisites.

It can also be done piecemeal, but it's usually done through a school, typically a Part 141 operation. this may or may not be part of a university program.

As to what route to take, it depends on your budget, etc. Newly-minted airline pilots can find themselves finishing up with education-loan debts comparable to those of newly-minted doctors, and moving into airline flying jobs (if they're lucky) that provide an income lower than many fast-food employees.
Then there's the additional training, for type ratings (your ATP will not be enough to let you transition to jets, or even from one jet to another, in many cases).
It can all get very expensive, and nearly impossible for those supporting themselves to pay for the training and have time for it while somehow earning a living. Most go into hock up to their eyeballs, and it can take decades to earn a big enough salary as an ATP to catch up with those loans (and the interest).

I second the advice to consider a university primarily to get a back-up degree; the flight training can usually be had cheaper if you shop around.


I can't tell you much more than that, but maybe your next google search should be "airline pilot forums" or "commercial pilot forums". These are an excellent source of detailed information from people who actually fly for a living.
 

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Reply #3 - Mar 2nd, 2010 at 1:11am

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To back up on what these guys said. Many of the airlines haveschools on several different airports, such as American Airlines and JetBlue Airways. And of course you can always go the Air Force route, but actually flying a plane in the airforce is much harder than trying to find a job as an ATP. [The Navy actually owns the majority of the planes. ;] ]
 

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