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Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:02am

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Hi All.
I don't often fly Airliners but feel like a challenge so could anyone recomend an Airliner with a working FMC.
It would be really lovely if it were a B727 but beggars can't be chosers.
Thanks in advance.

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Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:10am

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Zaphod wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:02am:

Hi All.
I don't often fly Airliners but feel like a challenge so could anyone recomend an Airliner with a working FMC.
It would be really lovely if it were a B727 but beggars can't be chosers.
Thanks in advance.

Zaphod.

I sometimes feel like a challenge flying "Helicopters", Zaph... Roll Eyes

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...then I put away such silly thoughts!... Smiley

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Paul...but "Challenges" always give me a headache... Cry

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Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:17am

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If you really fancy a challenge Fozz try buying one of those little battery powered radio controlled Helicopters which you can fly around the house (in theory.)
Whats really anoying is they have little girls in the shops to demonstrate them and they are all but impossible to fly! Trust me, I got one for Christmas. The wife thought it might help with my mid-life crisis.

Zaph Wink

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Reply #3 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:23am

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Zaphod wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:17am:

If you really fancy a challenge Fozz try buying one of those little battery powered radio controlled Helicopters which you can fly around the house (in theory.)
Whats really anoying is they have little girls in the shops to demonstrate them and they are all but impossible to fly!

Zaph Wink

Wink

I bought one of those for one of my Sons (34), but his Dog got annoyed with it flying round the living room....

...and ate it... Roll Eyes

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(The Helicopter...not the Living Room)... Wink

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Paul... Grin

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I find the Sim 'copters impossible to control....and life is far too short to learn... Wink

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P.P.S...I don't have 34 Sons....but one of them is aged 34... Wink

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FMC.....>>>
http://www.fmc.com/

Buy your grass fertiliser here... Kiss

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Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:27am

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Actually, I was thinking of getting a dog!!!

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Zaph..

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Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:29am

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Zaphod wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:27am:

Actually, I was thinking of getting a dog!!!

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Zaph..

...you need a new living room?.... Roll Eyes

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Paul.... Grin

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Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 2:36pm

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the only freeware plane I know of with an FMC is the Ifly 747

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Reply #7 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 3:04pm

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Romflyer wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 2:36pm:

the only freeware plane I know of with an FMC is the Ifly 747

Thanks Romflyer.
Do you have any personel experience of the Ifly 747 yourself?

Zaphod

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Reply #8 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 6:03pm

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I had it a few years back, and my poor tired old rig just didnt have the.......knackers Wink

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to run it smoothly, and I didnt have the time available to learn how to program the damn thing Roll Eyes

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But I remember being impressed with the way it looked, and I've read a few things about it being quite good.....seems to me like a good way to learn about FMC's without shelling out.
Give it a try, it's available here at simv somewhere

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Reply #9 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 9:10pm

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Hi Mr Beeblebrox.

There are only a very few freeware FMCs out there, which you can install into any airliner. The first is the vasFMC which for me is too durn complicated! The other one is much simpler, although it's in Alpha form and development was discontinued in 2007. VNAV is a little hairy (you can't switch it off!) but it works fine in LNAV though. Being alpha, there is no manual to speak of but it's not difficult to work out. It's the Mirage FMC and is here (http://mirage.orz.ne.jp/fsdev/modules/wfdownloads/), comprising the FMC, a MFD-replacement gauge and activation toggles.

If you're prepared to work at it, it's a bit of fun...

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Reply #10 - Feb 15^th, 2010 at 10:16pm

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Fozzer wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 11:23am:

Buy your grass fertiliser here... Kiss

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why buy the fertilizer when there are so many posts that already contain it?? Cheesy

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Reply #11 - Feb 16^th, 2010 at 5:45am

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microlight wrote on Feb 15^th, 2010 at 9:10pm:

Hi Mr Beeblebrox...

Well, how very formal Wink

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I think I'll have a lay down in a dark room with a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster before I attempt this FMC malarky. Sounds like hard work.

Best wishes, and thanks for all the fish.

Galactic President Zaphod Beeblebrox. Grin

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Reply #12 - Feb 17^th, 2010 at 11:56am

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Just a quick update. I have now recovered from the Gargleblasters and have downloaded and installed the iFly 747 complete with FMC, TCAS etc.
For someone who usually flies vintage aircraft this is going to be a steep learning curve.
Watch this space!
Thanks to all who replied.

Zaphod.

« Last Edit: Feb 18^th, 2010 at 9:42am by Zaphod »

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Reply #13 - Feb 17^th, 2010 at 1:04pm

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Zaphod, I am curious to see how you make out with it.......I am looking forward to the day that I feel like I have the time available to sit down and learn the rest of the skill set involved in actually operating a big cigar tube Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

I know the FMC wont be as big as I think it is to learn.....but when Undecided

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Reply #14 - Feb 17^th, 2010 at 10:24pm

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Actually, Zaphod, I cheated...

I've used the Simavionics ISG1 (payware but not expensive) FMC suite for a while now, which is very good and flexible; I have it installed in most of my jetliners of a ... certain age. The older ones have the CIVA INS.

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Reply #15 - Feb 18^th, 2010 at 9:38am

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Romflyer wrote on Feb 17^th, 2010 at 1:04pm:

Zaphod, I am curious to see how you make out with it.......I am looking forward to the day that I feel like I have the time available to sit down and learn the rest of the skill set involved in actually operating a big cigar tube Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

I know the FMC wont be as big as I think it is to learn.....but when Undecided

Undecided

Hi Rom..
My first impressions after only a brief time trying the aircraft is that it is a very complex piece of kit, even without the FMC!
I have used the Auto pilot on the default 747 with a fair deal of sucess but even this seems much more complex on the ifly. To fully appreciete this plane will require a lot of study of the supplied documentation which I'm sure would be worth while but very time consuming.
It is a very nice looking rendition and I particularly like the Cathay Pacific texture (CX). One small thing I have noticed is that the animation of the spoiler/aileron combination during steep turns does not appear to be modelled correctly, but this is a small thing and it's incredible that a plane of this quality is freeware (IMHO).

Best.

Zaphod

« Last Edit: Feb 19^th, 2010 at 3:08am by Zaphod »

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. But why take the risk?
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MSI X58 Pro-E MoBo
MSI GeForce N480GTX 1536 MB GPU
Corsair MXS£ DDR 3 (3*2GB) RAM
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