Simviation Forum - Is this system good enough for FSX??

Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:43am

fulanito_uk Offline
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On paper it should be ok, but what does your experiance say and what tweeks should I look at doing?

Thanks so much spec's below:

Windows 7 32
•Processor: AMD Phenom II X2 545 3.0ghz 4000MT/S 6mb Cache SKT AM3
Processor Interface : Socket AM3
•CPU Cooler : AMD Retail Boxed
•Memory: Major Brand 4gb DDR2 800 PC6400 CL6.0 Memory Module
•Hard Drive: Branded 1tb Sata 7200rpm 16mb Cache HDD
•Graphics Card: GTS 250 1gb
•Motherboard: Asrock K10N78 Full HD-HSLI AM2 5200MT/S Nvidia 8200 Chipset SKT AM2
•Max Memory Support: 16gb DDR2 1066
•Motherboard Expansion Slots: 1x PCI-E 16x, 1x PCI-E 1x, 2x 32-bit PCI
•Network Card: 10/100/1000 Giga PHY RTL8211B
•Audio: 5.1 CH Windows Vista Premium Level HD Audio (Realtek ALC662 Audio Codec)
•Optical Drive: 20x Lightscribe DVD Writer with Buffer Underrun Protection
•Power Supply: Branded 450w 24Pin Power Supply Unit

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Reply #1 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:54am

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...for long term reliability, I would almost double the size (power) of the PSU!... Wink

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I need a 750 Watt PSU just to run FS 2004 reliably with an old AGP 7800 GS 256MB Graphics Card, and an ancient Socket A AMD 2600 MMX (2.1 GB) Processor!

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Reply #2 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 7:00am

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cool i'll stick with good old fs2004, are there still any fs9 flyers out there?

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Reply #3 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 7:06am

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fulanito_uk wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 7:00am:

cool i'll stick with good old fs2004, are there still any fs9 flyers out there?

LOL...

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Join our Club!... Wink

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Reply #4 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 9:56am

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That should work fine for FSX. It should give you very good performance although hardly the best by any means.

FSX likes quad cores (Phenom II x4 945 and 955 are fast and cheap. Core i5 750 is faster / less cheap) which will give you better performance. With FS2004 a dual (Phenom II x2, Core 2 Duo) will suffice as it does not use many cores.

450 watt should be fine although it depends on what power supply it is. Not all power supplies of equal power are in reality actually equal. IMO, try and get a PSU by a brand like CORSAIR (e.g. VX450 (450watt), HX450 (450watt) preferably more powerful like VX550 (550 watt), or HX520 (520 watt)) because "branded" is a very ambiguous term.

Corsair HX series is more expensive and modular which means you only plug in the cables into the power supply you need which aids in cable management.

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Reply #5 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 11:57am

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Thanks guy, I have this pc at the moment bought it from a friend at a steal (buy first think later) so I think will use it with fs2004 at full graphics levels...

Thanks!

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Reply #6 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 4:36pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:54am:

I need a 750 Watt PSU just to run FS 2004 reliably

Besides FS9, you should be able to power a couple of heater bars with that Cheesy

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Reply #7 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 4:47pm

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I would definately get a power supply with a larger wattage. I don't quite know how Paul needs 750W, but you probably do.

Try this calculator to see how much you may need

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Reply #8 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:18pm

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olderndirt wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 4:36pm:

Fozzer wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:54am:

I need a 750 Watt PSU just to run FS 2004 reliably

Besides FS9, you should be able to power a couple of heater bars with that Cheesy

.

My 500 Watt PSU actually burst into flames after 18 Months of running FS 2004, so the 750 Watt PSU replacement was selected to prevent that happening again... Wink

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...plenty of spare Wattage.. Wink

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The greater the Wattage to cope with the load, the longer the life!

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Some Folks here even use 1000 Watt (1 kW!) PSU's... Kiss

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Reply #9 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 8:12pm

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Fozzer wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:18pm:

olderndirt wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 4:36pm:

Fozzer wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 6:54am:

I need a 750 Watt PSU just to run FS 2004 reliably

Besides FS9, you should be able to power a couple of heater bars with that Cheesy

.

My 500 Watt PSU actually burst into flames after 18 Months of running FS 2004, so the 750 Watt PSU replacement was selected to prevent that happening again... Wink

...!
...plenty of spare Wattage.. Wink

..!

The greater the Wattage to cope with the load, the longer the life!

Paul....G-BPLF....FS 2004...and FSX!

Some Folks here even use 1000 Watt (1 kW!) PSU's... Kiss

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My 500w PSU just went out last week, in the middle of a flight no less, and has since been replaced by a 800w unit of the same brand. Much quieter, and plenty of overhead, so no stress on that part. Wink

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Reply #10 - Jan 23^rd, 2010 at 11:23pm

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Depends on what specific power supply it is.

If we're talking about high quality power supplies by CORSAIR / SEASONIC... etc, then 450 watt should be enough and should last for years.

If it's a 450 watt SHAW then it probably wouldn't last a week.

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Reply #11 - Jan 24^th, 2010 at 3:20am

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...also...

The size of the Power supply in Wattage and Amperage to ensure a steady, regulated Voltage and Current to the various components associated with the computer, without undue heat or stress, and allow for future additions adding more load to the PSU.

As with all things, a well engineered and constructed power supply unit comes expensive, and will last longer than a low-cost, propitiatory-built unit contained within many retail Computers.

Often a good reason to custom-build your own computer system, with the best components for the job, and a quality Power Supply Unit is often overlooked!... Wink

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Paul.....ex Sparks... Wink

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