Sad indeed....another iconic aircraft I'll never get to fly on (Damn being born 10 years late...concorde etc. )

At least I've had the pleasure of seeing her 30ft above my head 

Surely this will make your life a bit more Hassle free then C?

.mic

I guess my Paderborn pictures will be the last ones I have taken then. In a previous life that involved a blue suit, I spent may an hour down the back being ferried from place to place. I have also been in the cockpit for take off and landing once during a "jolly"
I am not normally a nostalgic person when it comes to the passing of a mechanical thing, but the VC10 is in another league. As Charlie says, the fastest airliner to fly (apart from Concorde) and a form that could appear on Page Three any day of the week

Matt

I thought the CV990 was the fastest non-supersonic airliner?

According to the Super VC10 Performance manual, it's normal cruise is .84 mach, while the CV990 max cruise is .91. However, I saw a page that say the VC10 could cruise at .94, so I'm not sure.

All in the above 2 posts are correct. In RAF service VC10 cruises at M.84 or M.82 dependant on the variant, and a maximum normal operating limit (currently) of M.866 in the cruise in RAF service (mainly due to the fact that we've got things sticking out the front, dangling off the wings and want to be economical with fuel!).

M.94 is the Mne (Vne varying with altitude from 397KIAS@sea level up to 371KIAS at 28500ft).

So what's the Mne of the 990? Sadly the internet gives the normal laymans figures (other than the M.91 cruise - which arguably, if fuel was not a player the VC10 could and would manage), which are fairly meaningless.

Looking on the 990, it seems it was quick, but not if you put a lot of fuel in (in the carrots!).

As an aside, it was interesting that both the VC10 and CV990 used aerodynamic devices invented by Mr Kuchemann. The Convair had his "carrots" and the the VC10 has his wingtips!

Interesting article by Flight, including a statement which almost seems to contradict the earlier one (which was true). Is it me or has that been a symptom of the UK Plc in recent years. I think "spin" is the word!

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/01/22/337527/uk-updates-guidance-on-vc...

Good news though.

expat wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2010 at 2:03pm:


Yep. Maybe they put up two pictures, one of a Herc, and one of a 10, and asked them to point to the one they think would be best carry long haul pax!

It's probably as it should be though. Put civvies on the (slightly more modern) Tristar or charters, but allow military pax on the '10.

C wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2010 at 5:21pm:



During my time in a blue suit and Op Warden, though the suit switched between Khaki and DP's depending on the time of year  I had a jolly over North Iraq on a tanking mission. Cockpit for take off and landing, lots of pictures of posers in helmets with dark visors and to top it off, an in flight shut down due to severe vibration. A shut down that the crew "forgot about" on approach and shortly before landing that involved fire walling the throttles to retard the descent a little.......after landing I was told that "I had not seen that"

Matt

Sad that such a beautiful airliner will go... 
I thought the TU-154 was the fastest civilian aircraft?
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From Wiki.

any airliner can be the fastest it just depends on how many pieces you want it in at the end  ill leave

ut on a serious note thats kinda sad but i never knew you could do that

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True yep, I should have really read it. 

Before the 727 was retired, manuals frequently limited their speed to M.78. This occured in the '70's during the oil embargo.

It'll do M.84 without breaking a sweat.