gastoff wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 6:08am:


It rarely, if ever, occurs on small piston prop Aeroplanes, but it can/will on Turbo Prop and Jet engine Aeroplanes.

It is necessary to ensure the Control Levers are in the minimum position, and apply the hand brake when stationary on those Aircraft, and regular use of the foot brakes when Taxiing is necessary.

Read the "Aircraft Owners Handbook" for the Aircraft for instructions.

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004...FS Nav... ...!

gastoff wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 6:42am:


Which particular type of Aircraft are you have problems with?

Small General Aviation Piston Props?
General Aviation Turbo-Props?
Commercial Passenger Heavy Jets?

All of them?... ... ... ...?

Paul...G-BPLF... ...!

P.S....even with the default Cessna 172?
P.P.S...have you fully calibrated your Joystick...including the Throttle?

Hagar wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 6:56am:


I always find the turbo-props quite tricky to Taxi slowly, even with careful positioning of the various control levers after studying the Aircraft Handbook for instructions.
I have to apply the foot brakes occasionally to keep the Aircraft at a steady Taxi speed, but its something I get used to... ...!

Even with the control levers correctly set, any change of direction, changing wind, uneven Taxiway, etc, will upset the settings, so a juggle between throttle and brakes is necessary!

Paul....G-BPLF.

As a test on one of the aircraft which "creep" - try increasing the Brake scalar value under the [brakes] label in it's aircraft.cfg file.

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1         //Parking brake available


Possibly that may help.  Backup the aircraft.cfg file BEFORE making any edits and use Notepad to open and edit the file.

I would also check the size of the "null zone" on your throttle. Perhaps increasijg it a bit would be worth a try.

Good luck!

its just about how people male the airplane i dont think its nothing much to do with FS9.. its about plane's dad and moma haha

..another thought...

Make sure you have the Autopilot switched off!

If you leave it on it will control the Aircraft for you, (and if you then change to another Aeroplane the Autopilot will remain on, and control that Aircraft as well).

Paul...G-BPLF... ...!

gastoff wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 9:55am:


Yes...

I tried most of the planes in my FS 2004 Hangar, and the Hand Brakes, and Toe Brakes always work correctly...they have for the past 10 years...every day... ...!

Make sure you haven't got the Auto pilot turned on accidentally?

Paul...Just been flying my Lear Jet 45 for the past 4 hour hours, landing at different Airfields, taxiing, etc...braking... etc...no problems...everything stationary...

Paul...G-BPLF...!

I have been watching the default Beechcraft setting with engines running and the parking brake on for the last 15 minutes - has not moved an inch.

I have only observed the "creep" on one or two aircraft I have downloaded over the past few years - most do not exhibit this behavoir - and never I have I seen it in any of the default aircraft.

So I feel safe in saying it is NOT a FS2004 issue as the OP would have us believe.

Very strange!... ...!

Are any one of the other 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required......!

Paul...G-BPLF... ...!

Hagar wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:19am:


...more efficient brake linings?

...anchor?

Paul.... ...!

look a simple picture of it.........

well i am tired of discussing this item.

i know my self and i have many many good mods made for many many games.

i know 1 thing for sure i am not the problem!!!!
also my pc and joystick etc strange it happed only in fs 2004 old or new fs programs no and i repeat no problem with brakes or any thing of that kind.

i have almost every MS Flightsimulator.
i have more than 800 flying hours registrated with fs passengers.

i got 10 real hours on my belt in a real Flying simulator.
x-plane i have used , falcon 4.0. no f*@king problem with any of those.most of them i have played on this pc i use right now with the same joystick. i have installed ms fs 2004 many times to try fix this problem. still every time it happend. not only when on parking brakes with 100% of throttle.
like i said it also happend with out  a joystick and al the keys of the throttle unselected.

i am a beta tester for many games and programs.
because i am allways finding things other people don't find.

so end of the discussion

problem solved by adding more brake pressure <found on most real life Manuals. send to me from differant aircraft Manufactures ,like cessna.pilatus ,boeing , cirrus.
i found that most things are correct but hydraulics
most of the time are not correct... after i have chance it to proper settings  ... the problem is solved.

like i said people forgetting lots of stuff also people at Microsoft......

its only human to forget things.....

as real as it gets........

he fixed the problem by increasing the TOE_BREAKS=###### //BREAK SCALAR in the affected aircraft.cfg file under the section of [Breaks]


(taken from the Cessna 172 in FS9)

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1        //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 0.68  //Brake scalar  <~~~ Make this a higher number to stop moving forward when you have parking breaks / trigger breaks applied

OK, it works in holding still the aircraft, but if that value is increased too much, the plane needs around a 60% N1 to move and brake apply stops the plane abruptly. Is there any value resulting to an acceptable plane behaviour ?

I 've no idea Rich. Nor do I know how to fix it, if this is the case.
Anyhow the issue exists. I also know very well that it is completely unreal, at least regarding jet commercial airliners.
There is no point to give a try with engine off, as there is no problem with engines off. The issue appears with engines on and parking brake on.