Simviation Forum - fs 2004 parking brakes

Reply #15 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 10:27am

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I have been watching the default Beechcraft setting with engines running and the parking brake on for the last 15 minutes - has not moved an inch.

I have only observed the "creep" on one or two aircraft I have downloaded over the past few years - most do not exhibit this behavoir - and never I have I seen it in any of the default aircraft.

So I feel safe in saying it is NOT a FS2004 issue as the OP would have us believe.

David "Opa" Marshall

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Reply #16 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 10:51am

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strange if its happend on 6 differant pc's with all differant systems. all high end pc's with and with out of a joystick.

even with out a joystick its moves inches...
and beechcraft baron is the only planes i don't have any any problems with.... and the only payware plane i don't have this problem with is the 747-400 from pmdg...
i did try it with 100% of throttle and it still stay in the same spot. try that with a cessna or other planes... it just runs of like there is no brake....

like ms trainsimulator they release it too early not all the option are working good. because 1 issue MONEY!!!!

microsoft simulators are allways full of problems
and issues, its a not finished open platform.
so open that you can chance allmost everything while playing..

if anybody knows a simple program to make short movies of ms fs etc let me know i make a movie of it...
so you can see it you self. i am also going to show every every setting every ini file etc so you can see that it not me or my pc's or my joystick is the problem Wink

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Reply #17 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:17am

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Very strange!... Shocked

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Are any one of the other 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required... Wink

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Reply #18 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:19am

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Fozzer wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:17am:

Very strange!... Shocked

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Are any one of the 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required... Wink

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Paul...G-BPLF... Cool

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Paul, he's talking about parking brakes holding at full throttle. I'm not sure many people have tried that.

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Reply #19 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:23am

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Hagar wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:19am:

Fozzer wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:17am:

Very strange!... Shocked

...!

Are any one of the 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required... Wink

...!

Paul...G-BPLF... Cool

...!

Paul, he's talking about parking brakes holding at full throttle. I'm not sure many people have tried that.

...more efficient brake linings?

...anchor?

Paul.... Wink

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Reply #20 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:26am

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Hagar wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:19am:

Fozzer wrote on Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:17am:

Very strange!... Shocked

...!

Are any one of the 34,620+ Members having serious, unexplainable, "Brake" problems with their FS2004?

A definite answer required... Wink

...!

Paul...G-BPLF... Cool

...!

Paul, he's talking about parking brakes holding at full throttle. I'm not sure many people have tried that.

I believe the OP said is throttle was at 0% - not full throttle.

To the OP - I run ver 9.1 but do not believe that is a factor as I do not remember any creep before I updated.

David "Opa" Marshall

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Reply #21 - Jan 17^th, 2010 at 11:49am

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look a simple picture of it.........

well i am tired of discussing this item.

i know my self and i have many many good mods made for many many games.

i know 1 thing for sure i am not the problem!!!!
also my pc and joystick etc strange it happed only in fs 2004 old or new fs programs no and i repeat no problem with brakes or any thing of that kind.

i have almost every MS Flightsimulator.
i have more than 800 flying hours registrated with fs passengers.

i got 10 real hours on my belt in a real Flying simulator.
x-plane i have used , falcon 4.0. no f*@king problem with any of those.most of them i have played on this pc i use right now with the same joystick. i have installed ms fs 2004 many times to try fix this problem. still every time it happend. not only when on parking brakes with 100% of throttle.
like i said it also happend with out a joystick and al the keys of the throttle unselected.

i am a beta tester for many games and programs.
because i am allways finding things other people don't find.

so end of the discussion

problem solved by adding more brake pressure <found on most real life Manuals. send to me from differant aircraft Manufactures ,like cessna.pilatus ,boeing , cirrus.
i found that most things are correct but hydraulics
most of the time are not correct... after i have chance it to proper settings ... the problem is solved.

like i said people forgetting lots of stuff also people at Microsoft......

its only human to forget things.....

as real as it gets........ Grin

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Reply #22 - Apr 14^th, 2011 at 2:32pm

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Hi gastoff,

Could you please tell me in detail in which way you solved that issue ?
As I confirm the problem exists just like you describe it in my FS9.
How did you manage to increase parking brake pressure exactly ?

Sotiris

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Reply #23 - Apr 15^th, 2011 at 7:24pm

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he fixed the problem by increasing the TOE_BREAKS=###### //BREAK SCALAR in the affected aircraft.cfg file under the section of [Breaks]

(taken from the Cessna 172 in FS9)

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 0.68 //Brake scalar <~~~ Make this a higher number to stop moving forward when you have parking breaks / trigger breaks applied

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Reply #24 - Apr 16^th, 2011 at 7:11am

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roger Sir. Understood, checked, set and working fine.
Many thanks for your reply !

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Reply #25 - Apr 16^th, 2011 at 7:52am

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OK, it works in holding still the aircraft, but if that value is increased too much, the plane needs around a 60% N1 to move and brake apply stops the plane abruptly. Is there any value resulting to an acceptable plane behaviour ?

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Reply #26 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 12:08am

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HI
Has any one try it with the engine off? I read some where
that it may be A FD problem

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Reply #27 - Apr 17^th, 2011 at 12:31pm

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I 've no idea Rich. Nor do I know how to fix it, if this is the case.
Anyhow the issue exists. I also know very well that it is completely unreal, at least regarding jet commercial airliners.
There is no point to give a try with engine off, as there is no problem with engines off. The issue appears with engines on and parking brake on.

« Last Edit: Apr 18^th, 2011 at 4:08pm by Sotiris »

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Reply #28 - Apr 20^th, 2011 at 1:13am

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Remember where I read about creping airplanes, Manfred Jahn, new Constellation
An email to Manfred might get some answers

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