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Jan 1st, 2010 at 3:53am

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...not to be confused with the 1930s movie of the same name starring Raymond Massey:

At any rate there are a number of new projects underway out in the backlot that hopefully will grace our plates in the new year:

- An all-new update for the Fox Four F-86E/F with several new skins  Cool

- A fully-developed player version of the Fox Four AD-2 AI  Cool

- 'Breaking' Ships that actually work...well, someone thinks he can make it work.  Shocked
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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 5:15am

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Has "someone" had a very liquid fueled New Year and Xmas perchance? Grin Grin Grin
 

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There are two types of aeroplane, Spitfires and everything else that wishes it was a Spitfire!
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2010 at 5:26pm

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How can I feel so good today after so much cheer last night?  Undecided

I was up Knob Creek without a paddle, so I drained it.  Ahhh, the good stuff never hurts.  Grin

HOWEVER, I've got to stop being such a blabbermouth when imbibing.  I'll never get all that stuff done.  Did I really start this thread?  Lips Sealed
 

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Reply #3 - Jan 2nd, 2010 at 6:12am

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Yup, and if it makes you feel any better I did a fair bit of "consumption" myself whilst doing all the housework. The weird thing is the place is immaculate... my head on the other hand has decided the combinations I was experimenting with weren't overly clever. Still managed to get up at 04.50 this morning to get ready for work!
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 3rd, 2010 at 12:04am

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4:50AM.....OOOOOOhhhhhh, that hurts!  Shocked

I, on the other hand being retired, got to spend the day with this young lady....though she is a cruel mistress.   Been working on her little by little over the last year to get her ready for prime time, well perhaps just Off-Broadway.  An AI worth developing....  Cool

Whether you call her Able Dog, SPAD (Special Purpose Able Dog), Sandy or just Skyraider, she is a special aircraft.  Smiley Smiley

And this baby is getting close to ready for release......

.....And there ain't nothing to take the edge off a cold Korean spring morning like a load of napalm.  Grin

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Reply #5 - Jan 3rd, 2010 at 6:34pm

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The fourth evolution of the Fox Four F-86E/F is undergoing final testing, and BUB has three newly upgraded skins ready to go with the new aircraft.   All nearing the time for posting.  There's a Gabreski and a Risner in the E. as well as a Parr F  Smiley

Now....the final pile that I've stepped in is this breakable ship business. but that is more Collin's baby than mine.   So I'm off the hook a bit on this one.....no time frame available.  Sad
 

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Reply #6 - Jan 4th, 2010 at 12:20am

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Parr's Barb/Vent de Morte (Death Wind) from BUB's talented airbrush... Cheesy

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Reply #7 - Jan 4th, 2010 at 8:39am

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Oh yeah!
Back in the friendly skies of Mig Alley.  Smiley
 

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Reply #8 - Jan 4th, 2010 at 8:46am

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They sure look nice.

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Reply #9 - Jan 4th, 2010 at 7:55pm

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Sopwith C's airbrush is starting to heat-up.   Korean textures for the AD-2 in Navy and Marine service.  Navy gray and USAF Sandy in the works.   The boy is just plain gooooooood!  Smiley

Only a swabbie would name his plane Hefty Betty, but it fits.... Smiley
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Reply #10 - Jan 4th, 2010 at 9:40pm

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Lookin' good all all counts TR!
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 5th, 2010 at 10:12am

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OMG!  Smiley

It's getting Viet Nam out...... Smiley

Sotto Voce What started as a minor upgrade has turned into the proverbial 'tarbaby'....he mutters to himself as he and SopwoithC slave away pushing and painting polygons.  Grin

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Reply #12 - Jan 5th, 2010 at 10:03pm

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How sweet this baby is!

In 1965, I stood on the runway at Lowry AFB, CO while all the aircraft from a large airshow departed for home.  All the jets did high-performance takeoffs and made a low pass before leaving.   I soon forgot the puttering old A-1H after she tottered off and disappeared into the east.  About ten minutes later everyone on the field was looking up seeking the source of the high-pitched scream of a piston engine.   What we saw was the A-1H in a 70-degree dive.  She must have started at about 20,000 ASL feet (the field elevation is 5.000 ASL) and finally pulled out at around 2,000 above the runway.  Point made, A-1 Pilot.   She ain't flashy, but she's got hidden talents.  Wink

When I say she's a screamer, I mean it literally.  Grin

Come to the darkside; we have Skyraiders!  Smiley
 

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Reply #13 - Jan 7th, 2010 at 7:20am

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TR .... Chę charlie không cňn chính xác ... nhưng lŕm thế nŕo bây giờ tôi có thể chống lại? 
or...Charlie roasting on an open fire...TR nipping at his nose.  Grin
 

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Reply #14 - Jan 9th, 2010 at 12:22am

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Don't forget the "Guppy".....RN AEW.

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Reply #15 - Jan 11th, 2010 at 10:13pm

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Collin wrote on Jan 9th, 2010 at 12:22am:
Don't forget the "Guppy".....RN AEW.


Ahhhhhhh, yes!   Let's not forget the Guppy.   She's the bane of the submarine set, and available now at CG's Shipyard.   Come to the darkside...Collin has goodies.  Grin
 

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The first of the ADs will be the Navy's Hefty Betty and the Marines' Janet.  AD-2s of Korean War fame.   Coming very, very soon to a download site near you!  Cheesy

Two AD-6s in Navy Gray from the Tonkin Yacht Club will join them shortly....and there's even a really, really nice Sandy A-1H for the Air Force weenies.  Roll Eyes

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Only in the Navy....are you gonna find a guy naming his plane Miss Pussy Galore!

Been a long cruise has it, Swabbie...OK, Brown Shoe Swabbie?

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Jan 11th, 2010 at 10:52pm:
Only in the Navy....are you gonna find a guy naming his plane Miss Pussy Galore!

Been a long cruise has it, Swabbie...OK, Brown Shoe Swabbie?

HeobviouslyhadtomuchR&RinOlongapowherethewomenweresecondonlytothebeer.[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/75px-Palepilsen.jpg  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
 

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Reply #19 - Jan 12th, 2010 at 11:43am

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Now SopwithC has come-up with a really classy skin for the H...seen here as a WIP.  (Those toothy Phantom Jockeys at Da Nang had some A-1 sidekicks.)   To borrow a line:  I labor in the shadow of genius.  Cheesy

We're gonna make this old AI plane into a player....she's a looker, but a nightmare internally....sorta like some high-maintenance women I have known.  You've been there...you never have gone to bed with an ugly woman, but you have awakened with a few. Grin

Judas' Priests, Superman!

Holy Cow, Batman!

Sacre' Bleu, Blackhawk!

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He obviously had to much R&R in Olongapo where the women were second only to the beer.


Gazing wistfully o'er the fantail, the airedale opined...
Forever more, he'd long for Pussy Galore...
His Olongapo whore...
Always on his mind.  Cry
 

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Reply #21 - Jan 12th, 2010 at 12:39pm

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Grin
 

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Reply #22 - Jan 12th, 2010 at 8:39pm

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Jan 12th, 2010 at 12:03pm:
Gazing wistfully o'er the fantail, the airedale opined...
Forever more, he'd long for Pussy Galore...
His Olongapo whore...
Always on his mind.  Cry


If you get anymore poetic I'll have to resurrect 'Major Tom'. Huh

Now how about some piccies of the 'Guppy'?

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A man has to wax poetic occasionally....and I was inspired by that silver-tongued devil F6F-44.   It was all his fault for starting up about Olongapo and the ladies of the Shit River village.  Roll Eyes

Leave Major Tom in his box...er, capsule for now.  Grin

Now, what's this crap about the Guppy?  I found her in the back hangar over at the Shipyard and she told me you'd been neglecting her.   After all she is a Brit bird and deserves a little attention....give her a little air time.  And do get her a decent paint job.  A new dress goes a long way to getting a girl's spirits up.  Sad

Didn't the Polish Waitress leave a couple of dresses in your closet?   Cheesy

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Jan 13th, 2010 at 2:30am:
A man has to wax poetic occasionally....and I was inspired by that silver-tongued devil F6F-44.   It was all his fault for starting up about Olongapo and the ladies of the Shit River village.  Roll Eyes

Dats cos you went up the starboard side of the high street.


1/  Leave Major Tom in his box...er, capsule for now.  Grin

Now, what's this crap about the Guppy?  I found her in the back hangar over at the Shipyard and she told me you'd been neglecting her.   After all she is a Brit bird and deserves a little attention....give her a little air time. 
2/  And do get her a decent paint job.  A new dress goes a long way to getting a girl's spirits up.  Sad

3/  Didn't the Polish Waitress leave a couple of dresses in your closet?   Cheesy



1/  Ohhh...alright... Wink

2/  She is accurate as she is for "D" flight. Tongue

3/  Wadja fink I's wearing?  Shocked

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I've just uploaded three separate Skyraider packages.  They should be available tomorrow.  Smiley

- AD-2 US Navy/Marines Korea  Roll Eyes
- AD-6 US Navy Viet Nam  Cool
- A-1H USAF Viet Nam  Cheesy

Enjoy!   Wink
 

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Collin wrote on Jan 9th, 2010 at 12:22am:
Don't forget the "Guppy".....RN AEW.

regards  Collin Smiley

Cheesy


we haven't .............
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.........coming soon ..........
 
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Collin wrote on Jan 18th, 2010 at 10:03pm:



............because there's a mapping issue that prevents me from putting "417" without unacceptable distortion ...........


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There are some real problems (more than one or two) involved in repainting this aircraft without extensive work on the source file.....which is why we are trying to locate it in the archives.....and some of the issues are M_A_J_O_R.  Cry

BUT the WIP is looking good so far.....except the red dragon head is missing from the D....freaking Chinese in Hong Kong paint red dragons on anything not nailed down....but then the freaking Aussies prefer yellow roos....don't ever land on an Aussie carrier.  Smiley

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  Undecided Lest we forget.....The Fleet Air Arm did not have a monopoly on this aircraft, which is actually an AD-4W of which 168 were built.   FAA only got 50 of them redesignated as AEW-1s.  The Navy and Marines were the primary operators of this machine.....and they were big on museum paint jobs.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #31 - Jan 20th, 2010 at 6:44am

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[quote author=Tango_Sierra link=1262336004/30#30 date=1263961937].....and they were big on museum paint jobs.  Roll Eyes

only cos the paint held them together, not like the RN who repaired their's like Landrovers...(bailing wire, 1/2 inch spanner and a copper mallet). Grin

[i]bloody museum paint jobs, nearly as bad as those poser replica's ya see at airshows Angry
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Now back to Blitzkrieg..

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Tango_Romeo wrote on Jan 19th, 2010 at 11:32pm:
  Undecided Lest we forget.....The Fleet Air Arm did not have a monopoly on this aircraft, which is actually an AD-4W of which 168 were built.   FAA only got 50 of them redesignated as AEW-1s.  The Navy and Marines were the primary operators of this machine.....and they were big on museum paint jobs.  Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/USN.jpeg
 
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Such sweet beauty.....I think I'll just swoon.  Grin

We might get a winner here....The AEW-1 is born again as the fruit of Sopwith's airbrush.  OK, we got the D Flight/849 Squadron of the Fleet Air Arm.  They did a tour in Hong Kong and someone painted a red dragon head on the nose D.  They once operated off an Aussie carrier and someone painted a yellow kangaroo on the roundel.  Have we discovered the origin of grafitti?????? Cheesy

Now, if we can just find that source file.....  Undecided

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Reply #34 - Jan 21st, 2010 at 8:39pm

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Both the US Navy/USS Boxer skin and the D Flight/849 Squadron skins for the AD-4/AEW-1 Skyraiders will  be available for download in the next 48 hours....... Roll EyesSopwith and Collin having struck a compromise between the 'Poser Museum' skin and a totally trashed and ragged-out skin.  Tongue

If the source file shows-up, I'll do a major upgrade on the plane, but I've about given up on finding it.  Cry
 

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Reply #35 - Jan 22nd, 2010 at 2:42am

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Smiley The new RN and USN GUPPY skins download is now available over at the Shipyard:

http://www.simviation.com/lair/cfs2shipyard.htm

Roll Eyes

 

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Reply #36 - Jan 22nd, 2010 at 12:31pm

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Question:  What are the visible difference between the 3W & 4W?
 
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Reply #37 - Jan 23rd, 2010 at 12:19am

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oldwheat wrote on Jan 22nd, 2010 at 12:31pm:
Question:  What are the visible difference between the 3W & 4W?


I have no idea, and give up.   Now, tell us.  Smiley
 

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    I'll have to find out first TR, allegedly the two types flew in pairs of one each for early warning patrols (Of course, I may have read this in 'Wikipedia')
 
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Reply #39 - Jan 23rd, 2010 at 6:34pm

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Hi OW,

Think you will find that the 3W were ex USN with the old Avenger radar system, these were assigned to 778 sdn at Culdrose (CU on the tail) for testing. 4W was the improved version and theses were assigned to 849 sdn and went shipboard. It might be that as the 3W was converted from standard USN Skyraider, and the 4W was made to measure, its wing roots were moved to compensate for the radar dome and weight.
One time 849 sdn removed the radar pod to try to turn the aircraft into a troop mover, and the pilot nearly crashed as it was a complete 'pig' to fly...very nose heavy.

regards  Collin

 
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Collin wrote on Jan 23rd, 2010 at 6:34pm:
One time 849 sdn removed the radar pod to try to turn the aircraft into a troop mover, and the pilot nearly crashed as it was a complete 'pig' to fly. regards  Collin


Outrageous, I say!  Cry  Calling such a sleek fox of an airplane a PIG....I won't have it, Chap!  We bought her books, sent her to school, and now you abuse her like this.  Grin
 

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