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Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:50am

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Does anyone know of an instance where a pilot goes to loop, but instead of pulling up to do it, he pushes down.  I've never seen it done, nor heard of it being attempted.  They did it on the magic schoolbus, but Im not sure if it's possiblein real life. Grin
 


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Reply #1 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 4:45am

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This is a recognised aerobatic manoeuvre called a Bunt or Outside Loop. For some reason they call it an English Bunt nowadays.
http://aerobaticsweb.org/acro_figures.html#bunt
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On May 25 1927 Jimmy Doolittle was the first person to perform a complete bunt.
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:04pm

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Hagar wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 4:45am:
For some reason they call it an English Bunt nowadays.
Like an 'inside' loop, an 'outside' loop' describes a complete circle.  One starts with a pull, the other a push which causes negative G's and a lot of dirt in your hair.  Too much for any normal category plane whereas most of them have no trouble with the inside loop. 
 

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Reply #3 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:13pm

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Reply #4 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:45pm

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olderndirt wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:04pm:
Hagar wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 4:45am:
For some reason they call it an English Bunt nowadays.
Like an 'inside' loop, an 'outside' loop' describes a complete circle.  One starts with a pull, the other a push which causes negative G's and a lot of dirt in your hair.  Too much for any normal category plane whereas most of them have no trouble with the inside loop. 

I know the difference between an inside & outside loop. What I meant was that I've always referred to the half outside loop as a bunt. The "English" prefix apparently comes from the manoeuvre first being performed at the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough. James Doolittle was the first person to complete a full outside loop in a Curtiss P-1B over McCook Field, Dayton, Ohio in May 1927. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=kc3aoLOiGVkC&pg=PA47&dq=doolittle+outside+loo...

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"The word "bunt," it is said, was invented by Capt. Hubert Broad ; the manoeuvre has associations with a ditty which was popular in the flying Services in the 1914-18 war, but readers who want further information had better consult the originator!"
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1950/1950%20-%201135.html
 

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Reply #5 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 7:01pm

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ozzy72 wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 3:13pm:
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? where? Huh
 


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