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Reply #15 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 10:56am

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I don't see it like a bus at all. Buses do not fly 10 kilometers high at a thousand kilometers per hour. They do not have over a hundred thousand horse power at their disposal. They do not sound amazing. Nor are they the pinnacle of technology. i.e. there is nothing cool about a bus. A jet, is damned cool IMO. Ever touched the fan blades of the GE90-115B on the 777-300ER? My jaw just about dropped to the floor. Hell, maybe I'll be flying a 787 some day...


Of course a jet is  "cool"  ... anything that flies is cool  Cool

But in that regard of "coolness", it's no more "exciting", than any other jet.. and in many ways (to me), the technology, as wonderful as it is, makes it more sterile, and less exciting.

I'd get a much larger thrill out of seeing (or flying in)(or piloting) a 707  Smiley

I appreciate the technology.. it just doesn't excite me.
 
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Reply #16 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 11:07am
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Fair enough.  Wink


It would be nice to fly in a 707 indeed. I think the only commercial airline that still operates them is in Iran...  Embarrassed
 
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Reply #17 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 1:01pm

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All airliners are basically the same: flying tubes with engines. It will be a long time before they decide to make one different.
 

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Reply #18 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:03pm

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ApplePie wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 9:58am:
The most interesting feature in my opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf3WJM72sYs Grin

You can look out of your window without being blinded by the sun or getting told off by the flight attendant.
I wonder though, what will happen when the control panel or window dimmer breaks?



If this is in any seating other than business or first class I will my hat. $$$$$$ at each window or a $ window shade. A nice option but pointless. A toy for pax to play with from the start of the flight to the end of the flight. The amount to passenger interface units (arm rest entertainment controllers) we change is huge. People will not be able to resist the temptation to have a fiddle. Also when it breaks just hope you are not sat in that seat. As it will probably involve removing the side wall to gain access and this means removing the seat row, it will get entered into the HIL and be repaired at the next servicing opportunity or when the part turns up and in the meanwhile you retinas have been burned away at 35,000 feet in direct sun light because the person on the flight before you had bored fingers Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:12pm

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specter177 wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 1:01pm:
All airliners are basically the same: flying tubes with engines. It will be a long time before they decide to make one different.



They should start watching old episodes of Thunderbirds  Grin

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Reply #20 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 3:31pm

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Now those airplanes would be cool!  Thats what I'm talking about.  If not that, the 787 stylists could have at least insisted on a Caravelle tail.
On another note, planes like the 767-400 and the Stretch Dc-8s exhibit a noticible droop at nose and tail on account of their length.  From a purely aesthetic perspective, it kind of ruins it for me.  If the wing flex is any indication, the stretched 787s might look like a flaccid banana inch-worming their way across the sky.
 
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Reply #21 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 3:58pm

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expat wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:12pm:
specter177 wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 1:01pm:
All airliners are basically the same: flying tubes with engines. It will be a long time before they decide to make one different.



They should start watching old episodes of Thunderbirds  Grin


He's obviously never experienced a VC10! Grin


As for the 787, apart from the engine location, it's nice to see the aerodynamics of the VC10's still-born predecessor (Vickers' V1000) being approved over 50 years later! Smiley
 
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Reply #22 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 11:09pm
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expat wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:03pm:
ApplePie wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 9:58am:
The most interesting feature in my opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf3WJM72sYs Grin

You can look out of your window without being blinded by the sun or getting told off by the flight attendant.
I wonder though, what will happen when the control panel or window dimmer breaks?



If this is in any seating other than business or first class I will my hat. $$$$$$ at each window or a $ window shade. A nice option but pointless. A toy for pax to play with from the start of the flight to the end of the flight. The amount to passenger interface units (arm rest entertainment controllers) we change is huge. People will not be able to resist the temptation to have a fiddle. Also when it breaks just hope you are not sat in that seat. As it will probably involve removing the side wall to gain access and this means removing the seat row, it will get entered into the HIL and be repaired at the next servicing opportunity or when the part turns up and in the meanwhile you retinas have been burned away at 35,000 feet in direct sun light because the person on the flight before you had bored fingers Roll Eyes

Matt

Apparently electrochromic devices are more reliable than conventional mechanical window shades...
 
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Reply #23 - Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:46am

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expat wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:03pm:
ApplePie wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 9:58am:
The most interesting feature in my opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf3WJM72sYs Grin

You can look out of your window without being blinded by the sun or getting told off by the flight attendant.
I wonder though, what will happen when the control panel or window dimmer breaks?



If this is in any seating other than business or first class I will my hat. $$$$$$ at each window or a $ window shade. A nice option but pointless. A toy for pax to play with from the start of the flight to the end of the flight. The amount to passenger interface units (arm rest entertainment controllers) we change is huge. People will not be able to resist the temptation to have a fiddle. Also when it breaks just hope you are not sat in that seat. As it will probably involve removing the side wall to gain access and this means removing the seat row, it will get entered into the HIL and be repaired at the next servicing opportunity or when the part turns up and in the meanwhile you retinas have been burned away at 35,000 feet in direct sun light because the person on the flight before you had bored fingers Roll Eyes

Matt

Apparently electrochromic devices are more reliable than conventional mechanical window shades...



Only time will tell Huh

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Reply #24 - Dec 18th, 2009 at 10:59am

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snippyfsxer wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 3:31pm:
the stretched 787s might look like a flaccid banana inch-worming their way across the sky.
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Reply #25 - Dec 19th, 2009 at 7:42pm

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For me what is so exciting about the 787 is that first, it is made of composites. 2nd, it is a beautiful design. 3rd, it was delayed two years. It finally flew. It also uses the latest technology.
 
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Reply #26 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 7:29pm

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I think it looks like a nice slick aircraft.  Cool
 
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Reply #27 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 5:56pm

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As a Mechanic I find the 787 to be very interesting, amazing even. Especially the fact that the airframe is mostly composite, I love working with composites, it's my "thing" if you will. That being said, I'm a GA guy all the way. Other than the technology I don't see anything interesting about commercial jets. Don't get me wrong, if someone wants to pay me to work on them then that's one thing, but I'll never be caught dead having one of those Boeing Vs Airbus discussions.
 

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Reply #28 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 5:13am

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TacitBlue wrote on Dec 30th, 2009 at 5:56pm:
As a Mechanic I find the 787 to be very interesting, amazing even. Especially the fact that the airframe is mostly composite, I love working with composites, it's my "thing" if you will. That being said, I'm a GA guy all the way. Other than the technology I don't see anything interesting about commercial jets. Don't get me wrong, if someone wants to pay me to work on them then that's one thing, but I'll never be caught dead having one of those Boeing Vs Airbus discussions.


Erm, Boeing 787 IS a GA plane. Remember, Boeing wrote off all six prototypes. First three can never be sold. But ZA004 to ZA006 are GA planes.

As is the last A340-300.

Would you rather own the last A340-300 or the first 787-800 sold?
 
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Reply #29 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 10:32am

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chornedsnorkack wrote on Dec 31st, 2009 at 5:13am:
TacitBlue wrote on Dec 30th, 2009 at 5:56pm:
As a Mechanic I find the 787 to be very interesting, amazing even. Especially the fact that the airframe is mostly composite, I love working with composites, it's my "thing" if you will. That being said, I'm a GA guy all the way. Other than the technology I don't see anything interesting about commercial jets. Don't get me wrong, if someone wants to pay me to work on them then that's one thing, but I'll never be caught dead having one of those Boeing Vs Airbus discussions.


Erm, Boeing 787 IS a GA plane. Remember, Boeing wrote off all six prototypes. First three can never be sold. But ZA004 to ZA006 are GA planes.

As is the last A340-300.

Would you rather own the last A340-300 or the first 787-800 sold?


Nice try, I still don't want either. Wink

Yes I know what GA means, I should have said that I'm only interested in light aircraft.
 

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