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What's the secret to a good 150K JPEG? (Read 897 times)
Dec 15th, 2009 at 9:09pm

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Tried another using this HD trial thing and find there's more here than meets the eye.  Need to go to screenshot editing boot camp or find a suitable "dummies' volume.  My $13.95 Carenado 182RG.                     ...
 

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Reply #1 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 9:46pm

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I think the big part of the challenge is finding a suitable program that will compress screenshots without losing too much quality.  I'm no expert, and my shots are not the best, but I find programs like GIMP (freeware) is an excellent photo editor that can get the job done "fairly" well. 

Normally I would just scale it down to about 960 pixels in width, save it as jpeg and using their handy preview image feature to adjust the size to 150k... Sure there are better ways, but that has been how I've been doing it. 

http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1260506603 (About what I get from that...)

What is this HD trial thing you are using btw? 
 

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Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 10:38pm

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Rocket_Bird wrote on Dec 15th, 2009 at 9:46pm:
What is this HD trial thing you are using btw? 
Take a look at 'mictheslik's post in this thread - "HD".  Absolutely pinpoint perfect and that's what got me going.  My program of choice has been Paint.Net and it turns out fairly decent shots but squeezing them down to 150K is torture on the image quality - basically throwing out pixels you really need.  Then I look at some of the shots on the forum and see the difference in image quality - not talking artistic or any of that.  Theirs simply look like they have more pixels in their 150Kb than I ever have.  Obviously something I'm missing.  By the way that trial download is at www.hdrsoft.com but the final asking price is $55 Undecided.  Took a look at your 767 shots - very nice.  How do you handle jaggies? - been trying some blur with the image blown up but suspect there's a better way.  
 

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Reply #3 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 11:55pm

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photoshop i think is great...but its photoshop.

i had 60 or 70 layers on one PSD then to try and get it down to 150kb it was a doozey but i managed it, try reducing the size say to 900px or 1000px wide it helps.
 

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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 5:00am

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I post all my shots 800kb wide.
That way I both achieve excellent quality and can see the whole shot without scrolling  Wink
 

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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 11:41am

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Frequent Flyer wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 5:00am:
I post all my shots 800kb wide.
That way I both achieve excellent quality and can see the whole shot without scrolling  Wink
The mechanics of getting the picture width and file size down to forum specs are pretty straightforward.  It's the obvious difference in quality among our various offerings that I'm curious about.  My first tool was 'Paint' - pretty basic then came 'Paint.Net' - much more versatile, and free.  Installed my wife's 'photoshop 7' - along with a 21/2" thick book - but still don't know when I've reached that 150K mark.  Now this 'HDR' - does some fantastic things but requires serious money to own.  Is there one screencapture progam that provides a better quality jpeg screenshot, right from the start, than others?   (Note to the Mods.  Just realized that $13.95 makes it payware.)
 

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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 12:07pm

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olderndirt wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 11:41am:
Frequent Flyer wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 5:00am:
I post all my shots 800kb wide.
That way I both achieve excellent quality and can see the whole shot without scrolling  Wink
The mechanics of getting the picture width and file size down to forum specs are pretty straightforward.  It's the obvious difference in quality among our various offerings that I'm curious about.  My first tool was 'Paint' - pretty basic then came 'Paint.Net' - much more versatile, and free.  Installed my wife's 'photoshop 7' - along with a 21/2" thick book - but still don't know when I've reached that 150K mark.  Now this 'HDR' - does some fantastic things but requires serious money to own.  Is there one screencapture progam that provides a better quality jpeg screenshot, right from the start, than others?   (Note to the Mods.  Just realized that $13.95 makes it payware.)

Photoshop should have a "Save for Web" feature which will display the file size of the saved image when saved in JPEG format.

HDR (High Dynamic Range imaging) is a specific process. It involves editing the image so would not qualify as a standard screenshot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging
I believe there's freeware software for creating HDR images if you want to try it.

I recently tested a number of graphics editors to find which ones worked best for resizing & saving screenshots for posting on the forum. See this topic. http://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1260217726
I found GIMP gives as good, if not better, results than Photoshop Elements 6.0. BDSizer was developed specifically for resizing/saving images for posting on the Internet. Once it's set up the way you want it everything is automatic. You might like to try it. http://www.snapfiles.com/get/bdsizer.html

All have a Save for Web or similar feature. They all gave much the same results but as with most software it all depends on how you set them up. First of all experiment with the different resizing options to see which gives the best quality. Then try the different Save options to reduce the file size without affecting the quality. You don't need to save EXIF data on images you post in the forum so disable that option. That will save you a few precious Kb. Try the Progressive option to see if that makes a difference.

A lot will depend on the image itself. For example; a single aircraft shot against a clear blue sky will be far less graphics intensive than the same aircraft with a complex scenery background. Some colours like green are far more graphics intensive than others.
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 2:33pm

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As always - you're the man.  Thanks for another little trove of good information.
 

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Reply #8 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 4:21pm

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Okay, I just 'Gimped' the same shot - not as dramatic as the HDR but better than the Paint.Net - the 'white on white' adjustment really soups up the color.                     ...
 

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Reply #9 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 4:48pm

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Irfanview,you can set it to save at 150k or whatever you desire Wink

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Reply #10 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 7:58pm

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the 2nd one does look much, much better, cleaner and brighter.

I use the "save for web" option in Photoshop
 

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Reply #11 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 8:10pm

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Whichever software you use for compressing/saving your images the secret is in selecting the best method for resizing them. Options vary depending on the software but can make a big difference to the end result. I suggest experimenting to see which works best for you.
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 16th, 2009 at 10:15pm

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Hagar wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 12:07pm:
I believe there's freeware software for creating HDR images if you want to try it.


Would you happen to have a link for that?
 

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Reply #13 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 4:30am

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patchz wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 10:15pm:
Hagar wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 12:07pm:
I believe there's freeware software for creating HDR images if you want to try it.


Would you happen to have a link for that?

I had one once but I dumped it. I found it on Google. It might have been a trial version. Undecided

PS. I found this from a quick search. http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-high-dynamic-range-hdr-software.htm#Qu...
 

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Reply #14 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 4:57am

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Hagar wrote on Dec 17th, 2009 at 4:30am:
patchz wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 10:15pm:
Hagar wrote on Dec 16th, 2009 at 12:07pm:
I believe there's freeware software for creating HDR images if you want to try it.


Would you happen to have a link for that?

I had one once but I dumped it. I found it on Google. It might have been a trial version. Undecided

PS. I found this from a quick search. http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-high-dynamic-range-hdr-software.htm#Qu...


Thanks, but I just realized I don't have the system or hard drive space. I'm beginning to think I can't afford 'Freeware' FS9 stuff. Yeah, it's free, but the system to run it all and the hard drive space ain't free. I got down to just over 10 gigs of free space earlier and spent a hour or so moving files to CDs. And I still have only 12.3 gigs free space.  And there will soon come a point where I can no longer add anything else without getting rid of something first. So many planes, scenery, addons.....
so little drive space. Sad  Grin
 

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