Simviation Forum - Lightning crashed

Nov 14^th, 2009 at 9:57am

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Sadly, one of ThunderCity's English electric Lightnings crashed today at the Overberg airshow. The pilot is still missing.Dont know what went wrong. Pilot ejected over the sea. Im on my way from the airshow now. I will post pics later. Give a moment of your thought to the pilot....

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Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 10:40am

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A South African news report, awaiting further details.
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Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 10:42am

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Very sad news. Cry

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LE158471.htm

Fortunately there are no reports of anyone on the ground being hurt.

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Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 10:52am

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Hagar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2009 at 10:42am:

Very sad news. Cry

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LE158471.htm

Fortunately there are no reports of anyone on the ground being hurt.

It was during the show. I had the privilage of taking photos of the last flyby as well as the smoke of the explosion in the distance. It happend 5 km from the crowd

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Reply #4 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 12:32pm

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Reply #5 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 1:18pm

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RIP. A very sad accident. Cry

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Reply #6 - Nov 14^th, 2009 at 1:50pm

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The Lightning's last takeoff

The last Flypast

Smoke from the accident can be seen.

Rest in Peace Pilot Dave Stock. Cry

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Reply #7 - Nov 16^th, 2009 at 8:39am

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It is said he had hydraulic failure, and also the canopy failed to jettison, and thus the result of failure to eject Sad

He told the air traffic controller to tell his closest people he love them. Very sad, and shocking to all South African aviation enthusiasts. Cry

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Reply #8 - Nov 16^th, 2009 at 8:39pm

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Saw some pics of the final moments earlier, the port tailplane apeared to be on fire at the root with the fire extending through the lower engine can, also a possible hydraulic fluid leak shortly after take off.

Think the pics are over at CBFS (classic brittish flight sim)

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Reply #9 - Nov 17^th, 2009 at 2:12am

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Tequila Sunrise wrote on Nov 16^th, 2009 at 8:39pm:

Saw some pics of the final moments earlier, the port tailplane apeared to be on fire at the root with the fire extending through the lower engine can, also a possible hydraulic fluid leak shortly after take off.

I know hydraulics have been mentioned a lot, but a back end fire after take off sounds like the old Lightning problem of a reheat nozzle fire. On the lightning the jet pipe nozzles had a rather odd design feature. Most aircraft of the time and up to today used/use air pressure to move the nozzle. The lightning uses pressurised fuel as the hydraulic medium to actuate the nozzle. Many lightnings were lost due to this "feature". Once alight, there was only one way the pilot was going to get home and that was generally by SAR.

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Reply #10 - Nov 17^th, 2009 at 2:16am

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expat wrote on Nov 17^th, 2009 at 2:12am:

Tequila Sunrise wrote on Nov 16^th, 2009 at 8:39pm:

Saw some pics of the final moments earlier, the port tailplane apeared to be on fire at the root with the fire extending through the lower engine can, also a possible hydraulic fluid leak shortly after take off.

I know hydraulics have been mentioned a lot, but a back end fire after take off sounds like the old Lightning problem of a reheat nozzle fire. On the lightning the jet pipe nozzles had a rather odd design feature. Most aircraft of the time and up to today used/use air pressure to move the nozzle. The lightning uses pressurised fuel as the hydraulic medium to actuate the nozzle. Many lightnings were lost due to this "feature". Once alight, there was only one way the pilot was going to get home and that was generally by SAR.

Matt

Interesting system?! see this post as Mr Tequila said :

http://www.cbfsim.org/cbfsim/cbfsBB/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18338&p=211849&hilit=lig...

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Reply #11 - Nov 17^th, 2009 at 3:05am

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expat wrote on Nov 17^th, 2009 at 2:12am:

Tequila Sunrise wrote on Nov 16^th, 2009 at 8:39pm:

Saw some pics of the final moments earlier, the port tailplane apeared to be on fire at the root with the fire extending through the lower engine can, also a possible hydraulic fluid leak shortly after take off.

I know hydraulics have been mentioned a lot, but a back end fire after take off sounds like the old Lightning problem of a reheat nozzle fire. On the lightning the jet pipe nozzles had a rather odd design feature. Most aircraft of the time and up to today used/use air pressure to move the nozzle. The lightning uses pressurised fuel as the hydraulic medium to actuate the nozzle. Many lightnings were lost due to this "feature". Once alight, there was only one way the pilot was going to get home and that was generally by SAR.

Matt

That's interesting. It explains a lot.

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