I'm looking to add on some really well done aircraft to FSX and came across the products from Captain Sim. I'm considering getting the Boeing 767 (and possibly the 727), but I would like to hear some opinions before I puchase any of these. How realistic is the flight model? The web site photos look great, but what do you owners think? Does all the detailed geometric modeling cause any performance issues?

Peter

No problem, I only fly with 3D cockpits. Other than that, how do you like it?

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Rod

I own almost all CS products and must say they are great! You won't regret if purchase them.

Thanks for the feedback so far. Can the "frame unfriendly" models be tuned to use less compute cycles or are you stuck with what they give you? I'm particularly interested in the 767 for its realism, but if it will significantly drop my frame rate it defeats the purpose.

Peter

When I first bought their 757 for FSX, it was filled with bugs and ran terrible. Now, after the 4.3 patch, it runs perfectly smooth and has few bugs, if any. The quality and detail in all their products is amazing!

I love Captain Sim stuff, great quality at a great price

Tech Diver wrote on Nov 6^th, 2009 at 10:50am:

We don't know Captain Sim will have a sale for definite though.

I think the cs 727 is, by design, more of a "lite" product.  The version I have which was 2.1, didn't have the important performance charts or accurate EPR modelling.  For instance you can't set climb thrust, because the epr falls off precipitously after takeoff and is always far below what you would you would set it at.  That is moot though, because the plane doesn't have an OAT guage.  The same issue affects the descent.  Unless you are applying a substantial amount of power (far above idle), your 280kt descent will produce a hell-dive around 8000fpm.  These things ruin the plane for my tastes, but if you are more into the interior visuals, the plane is second to none.  It is fun to land.
Since I haven't upgraded my 727 in a while, does anyone know if the aforementioned issues are addressed?  I hope they are because I love the old vintage planes!

Dave W wrote on Nov 12^th, 2009 at 11:57am:


I think it is very possible that there were some FDE and documentation revisions in subsequent updates since the version I had (2.1) came out 6 months ago.  I uninstalled and never upgraded because the list of bug fixes never mentioned some of my concerns.  The closest I ever got to the cockpit of a 727 was talking about gladiators with the pilot at age 5, so my assesment of whether these planes fly like the real thing is based on the numbers in the performance charts, which some software developers provide (like Dreamfleet), and some don't.  When you say that you had no "problems", I look at it more from the standpoint of whether the plane flew by the numbers or not.  I'm going from the climb EPR and descent tables provided from the Dreamfleet product, since the cs didn't come with these.  Can you tell me what version you are using and if these tables have been provided?  Did you not notice a problem setting the climb thrust right after takeoff?  How did you know what the Max Climb EPR was, for a given temperature as you climbed, or what your expected fuel burn should be during economy cruise? I really want to know because I would love to have a "realistic" 727 in my hanger and would be very interested in re-installing the cs727 if the answer to those things is yes.  If not, that is fine too, there is no reason the poster couldn't enjoy this plane for its own merits.  All I'm saying is that I personally didn't like if for those reasons mentioned

BSW727 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2009 at 8:26pm:


A bit of a personal vignette that may be off the topic of this Captain Sim thread, but I have to say that the Dreamfleet 727 along with the RFP 742 were the two planes that provided me with so much feeling of "virtual accomplishment" that I went out and spent mucho dinero to get fully into the hobby, with yoke, rudders, throttles, corei7 and all.  Now I'm waiting for those two airplanes to be updated for FSX.