Simviation Forum - Crash to Desktop during long haul flights....again.

Reply #45 - Nov 24^th, 2009 at 11:42am

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John,

How do I "stop" using AES once it is installed? Just deactivate it inside SceneryManager?

What do you mean by hardware interfaces? The main computer has everything on it except the Ellie Avionics that run on the networked computer. I read that it is recommended to use only FS9 on one drive and put everything else on another but I didn't know how to make FS9 see the items so it all went on one 300gb fast drive.

What should I use to scan the memory modules?

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Reply #46 - Nov 24^th, 2009 at 11:51am

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Steve,

HARDWARE: I'm guessing you maybe have joysticks/pedals, Goflight modules, and other such stuff....and their associated control software running on that machine too?

As to RAM memory testers... I am sure people with more knowledge than I have recommendations.... but you can get applications that stress the %$#@ out of your RAM to make sure that it is not having errors. They typically are long tests.... run em' at night. I have a couple.... but can't remember what they are called.

As to AES........ I can't remember at the moment how to "shut it off".... but I'll get back to you.

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Reply #47 - Nov 24^th, 2009 at 2:45pm

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I've had memtest 86 v 4.0 running for almost 3 hours. No errors yet.

How long should it run?

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I'm thinking that all I need to do is open SceneryManager and make AES not active. Correct?

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Reply #48 - Nov 25^th, 2009 at 11:36am

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OK, with AES off he flew from Stockholm to Rome. Not a long haul but it was with two add-on airports, CS 757 (Ethiopian makes that route--weird!) and everything else on that he usually has turned on.

No problems. Great flight and landing. Rome had low visibility. Didn't see the runway until minimums.

I have heard many stories about AES issues. That could be the problem.

I also went back to letting XP choose the page file size rather than make a set size. I want it to use however much is needed.

Memory test ran overnight with no errors.

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Reply #49 - Nov 25^th, 2009 at 8:02pm

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Steve,

Don't change more than one thing at a time. Basic scientific method. Control the variables so you can make cause and effect conclusions.

Either AES or pagefile. Not both.

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Reply #50 - Nov 29^th, 2009 at 10:21pm

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I just feel bad for my son Taylor. This is really his passion and he loves it. Today he left from ATL to CDG in the PMDG 747. It flew all day. This evening he went in and was ready to land. The announcement was "ladies and gentleman we are preparing for our descent" and then, bam---it quit like it had not been running at all! Every app running (TrackIR, Ground Environment Pro and 2004) were just gone. Only the desktop remained.

He gets very upset! I do too really! It's supposed to be fun. We went to FS9 because of having to mess with FSX constantly. It's happening again and I don't know what to do. It's getting to the point where I can see him saying why bother.....

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Reply #51 - Nov 29^th, 2009 at 11:16pm

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Steve, what is the app that did the decent call. Seeing it died after that I would not run that add-on and see.

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Reply #52 - Nov 30^th, 2009 at 3:01pm

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It was FS2Crew but I was using the announcement for reference of approximately when the crash happened. It was probably several minutes after---somewhere around the top of descent--that it failed.

FS2Crew was running the entire flight. It didn't just pop in and crash it.

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Reply #53 - Dec 2^nd, 2009 at 7:43pm

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Steve,

Did you install the "patch" that was issued for fs2004? Or are you using a copy that came with that update already installed?

When (if) you installed the patch, did you do it EXACLTY the way Microsoft said to do it? There was some documentation around that if you did not follow the instructions exactly,.... that the patch did not work correctly.

There was a bug in the original fs2004 issue that cause problems that sometimes manifested themselves like this. It had to do with a memory leak in some of the autogen. It only showed up whjen you could "see" the autogen again as you got near the ground.

To me the symptoms seem to point to a problem with a ground or airport texture of some sort. Or the texture on a pice of airport ground equipment. Something like that.

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...................john

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