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Sep 28th, 2009 at 3:53pm

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Just tried to launch FS2004 after not having done so for quite a few days. I get this message in a gray box across my screen telling me my computer has run out of available memory, and that I should run a Disk Cleanup. I am wondering why I am getting this because my C: drive has 418Gb of free space on it. Knowing that FS9 is but a paltry 15Gb, I have to wonder why I am seeing this problem. I rebooted, but it persists. And so I am here, asking the experts...
 

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Reply #1 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 5:27pm

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Didn't help. if I re-installed, would I have to put all my aftermarket scenery back on, too?

I don't understand this. I have had FS2004 on this present computer for almost a month since I had the new hard drives put in. I have just the default airplanes , with maybe one or two add-ons. I had FS2004 on this computer for well over a year with its previous 250Gb drives, and I had about a hundred add-ons and a few sceneries from SimV, plus a boatload of stuff from abacus and FSGenesis. Never had a problem. What could it be?

Just tried FSX. Launches just fine. Zero problems...

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« Last Edit: Sep 28th, 2009 at 7:57pm by hhomebrewer »  

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Reply #2 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 8:36pm

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A friend of mine just had the same thing occur.

His happened after creating a scenery bgl via BglComp.

He sent me his bgl (along with his xml file) and sure enough I got the same error message - I had never experienced that before.

So I compiled his xml using my BglComp setup and it worked perfectly - no "out of memory" error message.

This leads me to think that my friends BglComp setup had somehow become corrupted and the output in Bgl form was causing the strange error messge.

Have you added any bgl files recently?  If my theory is correct, the OEM message might be triggerred by a bad bgl (perhaps in a scenery enhancement).

 

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Reply #3 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 8:38pm

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available memory, and Hard Disk space are totally different.  You may have 415GB of disk drive space available, but how much PHYSICAL MEMORY do you have, as well as VIRTUAL MEMORY???

also, have you tired running Disk Cleanup, and then Defrag?



1 program that I use instead of Windows Disk Cleanup (because D.C. does not clean EVERYTHING) is a FREE program called CCleaner [www.ccleaner.com]. Not only will it clean your C:\ , your E:\ , (any harddrive), but it will also clean out your Computers Registry of old, unused entries that are just lingering around slowing down your computer.  It can also ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS better than the one that Microsoft made and installed.

after you run this program, I would run a full system DEFRAG.



if you are running XP, could you please go to START > PROGRAMS > ACCESSORIES > SYSTEM TOOLS > SYSTEM INFORMATION.   

please tell us your Operating System with service pack #, Physical Memory, Video Card, Processor type.   ... These things will help us get to the root of your problem and help you troubleshoot your computer a lot faster.
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 8:50pm

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Quote:
"running Disk Cleanup, and then Defrag?"


I ran Cleanup per the suggestion in the window. I have an auto-defragger that kicks in at least once a day, sometimes twice. I have powered-down and booted back from zero power. No luck...

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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 9:09pm

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as OPA suggests, have you tried to install any new scenery files?  If you can remember, what was the last 3 things that you changed / added to FS9 before you started noticing problems?


have you updated any drivers to your computer? Video, Sound Card?
 

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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 10:32pm

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Capt. Propwash says: last 3 things that you changed / added to FS9

I have been fooling with FSX for much of my simmin' over the past few weeks. I just popped in to FS9 for kicks-- and I get this stuff. I'm baffled. Never had any problems with FS9 before-- not even on a single-core computer running a 3800+ and 3Gb of RAM with a 7900GS video card. I have Acronis. I can maybe go back three or four days, but I have put a few things onto my C: drive since then, and don't want to wipe them away for a sim I don't use much. I'll just let this set a bit. Maybe I will stumble upon the answer as easily as I stumbled upon the problem. Thanks for all the input, gents. I appreciate it...

I did try to install the Merlin. I put gauges in. I tried the abacus A380 v1 a week or so ago. I think I'm gonna blow it all away and start with a simple install of FS9, then load it up slowly with add-ons until it bombs out. Still, I can't understand why this install with so few add-ons craps out when the previous one that had 100-plus airplanes ran just fine...

Just used Revo Uninstaller at 1946 PDT to wipe away every last bit of FS9 and everything associated with it. We'll reinstall when I feel more like facing that exercise...
 

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Reply #7 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 11:21pm

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could have been as simple as one of the gauges was messed up (but then again, it would have kicked out "there is a file that is not correct XXXXXX.gau) or something to the effect.

I have a 120gb External HDD that i keep everything associated to Flight sim on and run from the External. Keeps my C:\ nice and clean and more room for windows updates.. lol.   I have FS9 and X: Deluxe, FSHost/client/spy, Teamspeak Server/Client, ATC Radar Screen 5, all of the scenery building files, .... EVERYTHING FS on the External.  Not to mention all of my family pictures, and Music that we have downloaded.

E:\Microsoft Games = 46.7 GB Total, including FS9, and X

[FS9 = 14.6GB]

[FSx = 16.3GB]

Music = 3.55GB

Pics = 3.27GB



its only a thought and suggestion, get an external harddrive from any major computer retail store and put FS9 and X on it to keep even more space on your C: and thus you can crank your Virtual Memory up a little more being that your computer uses the C: for Virtual Memory.   .... ie, better FPS in Flight Sim, not to mention smoother running over all, plus faster boot ups from dead cold.
 

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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2009 at 12:27am

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I have a second drive inside the case where I keep my Acronis images and a few other things. It has 283Gb of open space on it. How do I put FS9 on that one and run it from there?
 

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Reply #9 - Sep 29th, 2009 at 4:09pm

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you could just "cut/paste" your Microsoft Games/FS9 folder to your "E:" or whatever your 2ndary drive is that is 283GB Free, Locate your FS9.CFG (is it NOT located in your FS9 folder, but rather in C:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Application Data\Microsoft\FS9

after you have moved your Microsoft Games folder to your secondary drive, DELETE your FS9.CFG.  Restart FS9 and let it build a new one.   

It is now on your secondary drive and not on your C: drive.






But then again, if you are going to uninstall it from your C: anyways...... "IF" you do reinstall it, choose CUSTOM INSTALL, and tell it to put it on the 2nd drive and not the C:


suggestion: After it is on the second drive, go inside your FS9 folder and CREATE A NEW FOLDER.   Name it DL'ed CRAFT AND PROGS.  -- store all of your .zip files for your craft / scenery / fs9 programs inside this folder.   Also, when you unzip / extract all files... put them in THIS folder 1st before you just load them to the sim.  That way you can check the files to make sure you get what you are supposed to.  -------- this is your "oops, i screwed up the craft / scenery files and I want the original files back for that craft / scenery / program" backup file.
 

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Reply #10 - Sep 29th, 2009 at 7:01pm

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Thanks, Captain. Good info...
 

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Reply #11 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 1:13pm

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Hi,

I have had a bad scenery BGL and a bad XML gauge cause that message.  Very hard to trace unless you check things each time you change anything...
 

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Reply #12 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 3:28pm

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tgibson wrote on Sep 30th, 2009 at 1:13pm:
Hi,

I have had a bad scenery BGL and a bad XML gauge cause that message.

I have no idea what BGL is. Last time I heard that was in Accounting class in school. It means Basic General Ledger in that discipline. Not sure it applies to FS. I likewise have no idea what XML is. That stuff is way above my paygrade.

In another direction, I am seeing the ground between the instrument panel and the instrument in the FSX I am now using. It's there when it starts but after a while, the gauge fills in completely and I no longer see the ground. Why is this? Is my Jaguar XML running on empty?
 

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Reply #13 - Sep 30th, 2009 at 5:09pm

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http://w3schools.com
XML stands for EXtensible Markup Language.

XML was designed to transport and store data.


http://www.liutilities.com/products/winbackup/filextlibrary/files/BGL/
The .BGL extension file identifies a scenery file for Microsoft's flight simulator. To access a .BGL file you will need to install Microsoft Flight Simulator.. Incorrect associations are the cause of many file extension errors. Scan your system to prevent, identify and repair BGL file extension association errors.


 

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