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Sep 8th, 2009 at 10:44am

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After searching the FSHost forum for a solution to my port problem, I found this:

http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm

Do EXACTLY as they say without missing ANYTHING, and you should have everything set up correctly.

-Scroll down the page and find your router and click on the name.

-Skip the advertisment page

-scroll down and select Flight Simulator 2004

-next click on the Static IP Address guide and complete it exactly as it says to do!
Direct link: http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm
(Not all systems will work with this setup, that's OK, set everything back to default like it says, and then move on to the next step)

-follow the step by step instructions for EACH port listed. Where it tells you to enter 2302, make it 2300 instead.

Your router's firewall should look like this when you are done:
(differing router's will have differing pages, but the open ports will be the same, regardless of design or maker)
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-Now, You must
    -either open all of these ports manually in your windows/other firewall,
    - or disable your firewall before flying online.

To Open Windows Firewall Ports in XP:
Go to- Start Menu / Control Panel / Windows Firewall ,and click the Exceptions tab.


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now click the 'Add Port...' tab

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Now enter a name for the port, I find that fs#### works, as I know it's a flight sim port, and the number is the same as the port, helping to keep track of where you are when opening 101 ports.  Wink

Now enter the port number, and select UDP, and click OK.
You have just opened a port on the firewall. Cool

Start with 2300, and continue repeating this process until you get to port 2400.

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When you are done, you should have 101 entries for ports 2300-2400, and if you've already tried or have been online using the FShost server program, you should also have these entries listed:


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If you don't see these entries, open the following ports in your firewall, in the exact same manner as you did above.

UDP 23456 
UDP 6073
UDP 23432
TCP 47624
TCP 80




Found the info here: http://www.chocolatesoftware.com/forum/index.php?topic=737.0

My system now passes the Chocolatesoftware port tester, and the Port Forward port tester.

It's A LOT easier than you think. Wink

Special Note:


-IF you use the windows firewall, be aware that you must set ALL 101 ports to open individually with 2300-2400. Otherwise you will have 99 closed ports if you just open 2300 & 2400.

-Disabling the windows firewall automatically opens all of these ports. Do so only if you know what you are doing.



This is a complete list of all ports that will be tested and  need to be open:


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I verified this on two different testers, so unless you can get yours and FSPorttest to say everything is OK, I wouldn't trust it yet. I've never been able to get it to say that I'm good, and now I can. Wink

FSNavigator users should also make sure that port 23432 is open.
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Reply #1 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:02am

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I think this is why there are so many port problems:

Some people may not realize there are 101 ports to open with 2300-2400, and only open the two leaving the other 99 closed,

but wait, aren't those the FS2002 ports you ask....


read this explanation of Multiplayer ports from the FSHost creator:

Quote:
I've had a couple of emails from people asking why the tests fail on their machine even though FS2004 and/or FSX seem to be working ok.

I've seen that happen before.  What's happening is that FS is connecting to the server on 23456, and since the router sees the connection initially being made from inside your LAN, it allows the connection out and then also automatically forwards data coming back in on that port to the same machine that requested it.  This is why you don't have to forward every port your machine connects out on -- because the router sees the outgoing request and then allows data to come back in on the same port without a forwarding rule.  And you can even have multiple machines going out on the same port, and your router is smart enough to automatically forward the return data back to the right machine.

However, sometimes FS will end up switching off of the 23456 port and onto the "alternate" ports, which are 6073 and a sorta-random port in the 2300-2400 range (typically the lower numbered ports in that range).  It only does it in certain situations, but when it does, data will be coming back into those ports and the router will have never seen any data going out on them, so it won't know how to forward them to the right machine.  So those ports have to be explicitly forwarded to the FS machine.  This can also happen when you have FS and FSHost on the same machine and you're connecting to your own session, because in that case you have to tell FS to use some port other than 23456 (since it's already being used by FSHost), and then FS will switch to the alternate ports.

Back in FS2002, it always used a port in the 2300-2400 range, and it caused lots of problems for people that didn't know how to setup their networks to allow the incoming data on a random port.  So when Microsoft released FS2004, they changed it so it would always try to use one standard port, which was 23456.  But they left the random port stuff in there as well, for the cases where it wasn't able to use 23456.  FSHostClient (for FSX) uses the FS2004 method of connecting to the session, so it behaves the same as FS2004 in that case.

So you can usually get away with just using 23456 with FS2004 and FSX.  But you should be aware that your setup is not optimal (networking-wise, anyway), and there's a slight chance that it could cause problems for other people in the session.  For that reason, it's always best if you can setup your firewall or router to forward the correct ports to the FS machine, and then you'll be sure that everything's ok.

Unfortunately if you have FSHost and FS on different machines in your local network, there's no good way to solve the problem because you can't explicitly forward a port to more than one machine.  If you can run both on the same machine, it's always better because you can forward all the ports to just one machine (and usually FSHost doesn't cause problems for FS).  Otherwise I'd suggest forwarding all the ports to the FSHost machine, and then just rely on port 23456 for the FS machine, since your router will do the automatic routing when it sees the outgoing connection from that machine.

Hope that helps explain it a bit... It's a bit of a mess, this whole thing with how FS uses ports.

Russell



So based on this, you could have the needed FS9 & FSX ports open, but if your game for some reason decides to switch over to one of those FS2002 ports, and someone doesn't have all 99 in between ports open, it's game over for all.


Your Router & Firewall must have all 101 ports from 2300-2400 open or this is bound to keep happening.

The mystery may finally be solved. Grin Wink


 
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Reply #2 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:32am

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Thanks for posting this in detail Shane.  Maybe it will help.

This info is and has been "out there"... it is just that people will not make the effort to DO it because it typically affects OTHERS... not them enjoying their flying on-line.

And yes... opening those 100+ ports is a "labor of love" in the annoyance factor category.  Did it long ago....... and thought it was CRAZY,....as well a a bit scary.  Cheesy

The REAL issue here is Microsoft putting such an absurd situation into play for the original software for multiplayer use.  This software is intended for the casual user..... NOT the computer and network guru.  WHAT were they thinking?  Roll Eyes

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Reply #3 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:32am

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Digging around in the stickies here will produce similar results!  Grin Wink

http://forums.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220714574
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Reply #4 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:45am
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I will apply all those things tonight. I do not use the Windows firewall but the free version of Zonealarm. Do I have to open all those ports in there too? Or should I do it anyway just in case?

Crash Wink

EDIT: Just checked something. Fsporttest still says that there is a problem and times out after three seconds. However, using the porttester of Utorrent (I know. Don't ask.) tells me that all the ports I need (23456, 23457, 23458, 6073 and 2300-2400) are open and working. Now what? Firewall disabled for the time being.
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:52am

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Those ports should be open regardless of which firewall you use. Any kind of closure prevents signal from traveling, and that appears to be what causes the problem, at least that how I read it. Wink

I've just taken the habit of shutting down my windows firewall before doing multi player, and now I know for sure that my router is truly set up correctly. 

Anything that manages to make it past my router's firewall, NickN has said, is sure to move past the windows firewall as though it wasn't even there, so I don't feel any less safe with it turned off during online play.
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:53am

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I purchased the "Port Forward" download program (£15) http://portforward.com/  some time ago, when my ISP gave me a Free Modem/Router for my Broadband connection.
It failed dismally to detect the necessary ports on my Smart AX MT 882 ADSL Broadband Wired Modem/Router, even by Manually going into the Router Software to detect them.
The result was, to ensure there were no Port problems during Multiplayer, I was forced to abandon the Router idea completely, and purchase a simple Wired ADSL USB Modem only, to cure the problem completely.
All my previous Port problems were contained within the Router!
Running the "Port Test" now, checks a long list of Ports throughout my whole system, and reports then all as; "Open"!

Paul.... Smiley...!


 

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Reply #7 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:56am

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I have no choice, I HAVE to use a router here. Wink

If I had it my way, it would be gone, quickly. But it isn't a problem anymore. Wink Grin Cool

And I didn't buy that silly program of theirs, I just followed the instructions and did it manually. Takes less time than a NickN system tweak.  Grin Wink
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 11:58am
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See EDIT in my previous posting.

Crash Wink
 
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Reply #9 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:02pm

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Quote:
See EDIT in my previous posting.

Crash Wink


Which ports does it time out on with FSport test?

And is the firewall off when you run it?
 
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Reply #10 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:30pm

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This is a complete list of all ports that will be tested and  need to be open:

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I verified this on two different testers, so unless you can get yours and FSPorttest to say everything is OK, I wouldn't trust it yet. I've never been able to get it to say that I'm good, and now I can. Wink
 
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Reply #11 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:39pm
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This is with all the right ports open in my router, all firewalls disabled.

Crash Wink
 
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Reply #12 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:43pm

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Just to make sure all of the bases are covered, have you done the 'Static IP address' setup at the PortForward link?

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm
 
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Reply #13 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 1:09pm
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ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:43pm:
Just to make sure all of the bases are covered, have you done the 'Static IP address' setup at the PortForward link?

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm


Yes, i do have a static ip address. Just checked each and every port using the Utorrent porttester. They are all open. Any other random port is closed as it should be. I think, no I know I did everything I had to do. Still going to open all the ports in Windows Firewall, just to make sure.

Crash Wink
 
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Reply #14 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 1:19pm

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That would be the only other thing I could think of that we've done different then. Undecided

It took me about 5 minutes to do them all, and damn near gave me carpal tunnel. Grin Wink

  Have you tried the PortForward port tester? I would believe that a 2-1 result would be rather assuring, but either way you should still open the FS ports everywhere possible.
 
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Reply #15 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 1:27pm
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Portforward porttester is positive on all ports...

Crash  Cheesy (going nuts...)
 
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Reply #16 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 1:57pm

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In your case, I'm going to say it's a bug with Fsporttest.

I just ran FSporttest again, and it timed out on 2311, so I ran it again, and it went right through with no errors, so it may just be a software issue with the tester itself.

If you have two other testers saying you are good, including the one the creator recommends, I would say you are good. Wink
 
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Remember that your signals are traveling the net as they go to the ChocolateSoftware server location.  So tracert might be good to do to look at latency when you are testing.  It is possible the time out is being caused by the net.... not the ports.

If the ChocolateSoftware one ALWAYS times out.... then you might have an issue.

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It didn't work for me.  When redoing the ip adress the internet wouldn't work.
 


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Reply #19 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:55pm

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Mine always zip through as "OK" every time:

234546.
6073.
2300
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2400.

(Whether the Windows Firewall is on or off).

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Reply #20 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:58pm

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skoker wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:32pm:
It didn't work for me.  When redoing the ip adress the internet wouldn't work.



Then like they say, revert it back to the original setting, and continue on. Wink  It will still be OK. Not all computers will work with that setup according to the site.

The most important part is making sure that ALL of those ports are set to open in the router & the firewall (if you're using it)
 
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ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:43pm:
Just to make sure all of the bases are covered, have you done the 'Static IP address' setup at the PortForward link?

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm



This is something that I did not know about. Thanks for  that. This port thing is a mind bender, for sure. I did buy Portforward and I think it's all set up right, once I get the static IP address setup right, is it possible to set up a short test flight to check things out? (one on one). I would never want to screw any one up by joining a session and messing things up!
 

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Steve M wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 6:50pm:
ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:43pm:
Just to make sure all of the bases are covered, have you done the 'Static IP address' setup at the PortForward link?

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm



This is something that I did not know about. Thanks for  that. This port thing is a mind bender, for sure. I did buy Portforward and I think it's all set up right, once I get the static IP address setup right, is it possible to set up a short test flight to check things out? (one on one). I would never want to screw any one up by joining a session and messing things up!    



There is no real sure fire way to test it, other than using the port testers, and actually knowing that every one of those ports are correctly opened in the firewall in windows, and your router.

  The fact that it will all work fine under most conditions, and then randomly occur if some one's ports are not open makes it hard to test in real time.

For example:

   I did not have those 99 ports open on my windows firewall until today. Yet I have flown with a large number of people, from all over the world, and several at a time in different combinations of locations, and never had a problem.
 
  However, I've also had times where it's nothing but problems staying connected, when just three of us, who live within a few states of each other are the only ones on. So it could well have been me the whole time, and because I was able to fly with a dozen others at once without fault, never thought it was.

Just going through the process of opening them all, and having FSPorttest tell you they are, is the best, and at this point, only test results you should put 'trust' in that it's done right and working.

It seems like a pain, and it is, but it's worth it in the end knowing it isn't you causing it. Grin Wink

 
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Reply #23 - Sep 8th, 2009 at 7:13pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:55pm:
Mine always zip through as "OK" every time:

234546.
6073.
2300
to
2400.

(Whether the Windows Firewall is on or off).

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... Wink...!



Do you have 23432 open for FSNavigator? 

 
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ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 7:04pm:
Steve M wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 6:50pm:
ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 12:43pm:
Just to make sure all of the bases are covered, have you done the 'Static IP address' setup at the PortForward link?

http://www.portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm



This is something that I did not know about. Thanks for  that. This port thing is a mind bender, for sure. I did buy Portforward and I think it's all set up right, once I get the static IP address setup right, is it possible to set up a short test flight to check things out? (one on one). I would never want to screw any one up by joining a session and messing things up!    



There is no real sure fire way to test it, other than using the port testers, and actually knowing that every one of those ports are correctly opened in the firewall in windows, and your router.

  The fact that it will all work fine under most conditions, and then randomly occur if some one's ports are not open makes it hard to test in real time.

For example:

   I did not have those 99 ports open on my windows firewall until today. Yet I have flown with a large number of people, from all over the world, and several at a time in different combinations of locations, and never had a problem.
 
  However, I've also had times where it's nothing but problems staying connected, when just three of us, who live within a few states of each other are the only ones on. So it could well have been me the whole time, and because I was able to fly with a dozen others at once without fault, never thought it was.

Just going through the process of opening them all, and having FSPorttest tell you they are, is the best, and at this point, only test results you should put 'trust' in that it's done right and working.

It seems like a pain, and it is, but it's worth it in the end knowing it isn't you causing it. Grin Wink




It is a bit of a pain to set up, I don't mind that. One quick question, when leaving online play, of course, you would turn your firewalls back to on. Is a restart the easiest way to return your ports to normal?
PS; Thanks for your help! 
 

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Actually, after finally entering all 101 ports from 2300-2400, I re-ran FSporttest with my firewall turned on, and it passed with flying colors, so I won't be turning my firewall off anymore. Wink

As for the restart, that won't do it, you will have to go to the firewall control panel and turn it on & off each time, but, to get there quickly, just create a shortcut to it on your desktop, so it's just a click away.

To do this, go to: Start Menu/Control Panel , and grab and drag the 'Windows Firewall' icon to your desktop and release, and it will create the shortcut for you.
Now close the control panel and click the new desktop icon and you should go right to the firewall control panel. Smiley

I do recommend opening the ports and leaving the firewall on. It may be a flimsy Microsoft protection device, but it's still a layer that something would have to get through to get me. Wink
 
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ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 7:28pm:
Actually, after finally entering all 101 ports from 2300-2400, I re-ran FSporttest with my firewall turned on, and it passed with flying colors, so I won't be turning my firewall off anymore. Wink

As for the restart, that won't do it, you will have to go to the firewall control panel and turn it on & off each time, but, to get there quickly, just create a shortcut to it on your desktop, so it's just a click away.

To do this, go to: Start Menu/Control Panel , and grab and drag the 'Windows Firewall' icon to your desktop and release, and it will create the shortcut for you.
Now close the control panel and click the new desktop icon and you should go right to the firewall control panel. Smiley

I do recommend opening the ports and leaving the firewall on. It may be a flimsy Microsoft protection device, but it's still a layer that something would have to get through to get me. Wink


Will do. Thanks again.
 

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ShaneG wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 7:13pm:
Fozzer wrote on Sep 8th, 2009 at 4:55pm:
Mine always zip through as "OK" every time:

234546.
6073.
2300
to
2400.

(Whether the Windows Firewall is on or off).

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... Wink...!



Do you have 23432 open for FS Navigator? 



That gets opened when I run the FS Nav Program.
23432 is the Default Port at the time of Connection.

As far as I can gather, it is the Port specifically reserved for FS Navigator.

After I have fully connected FS 2004 and FS nav, etc,, the Port Test confirms all of my Ports are open... Smiley...!

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Thanks Paul. Smiley  I wasn't so sure on that one myself, but I get the same results as you, so it's all good.  Smiley
 
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I just had a peek on the internet regarding Port Forwarding and disconnection problems...

It seem that sometimes the Multiplayer Server gets bogged down with lots of Pilots on line, overwhelming the available Bandwidth.... Wink...!

...also, each  FS Navigator User adds an extra half the Bandwidth to the Server, as each Pilot on line... Roll Eyes...!

All this adds to the chance of various Pilots unable to connect, or get disconnected, during the Session!

Only the slightest little hiccup in the system can spoil a Session!... Cry...!

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Reply #30 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 7:28am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 9th, 2009 at 7:15am:
I just had a peek on the internet regarding Port Forwarding and disconnection problems...

It seem that sometimes the Multiplayer Server gets bogged down with lots of Pilots on line, overwhelming the available Bandwidth.... Wink...!

...also, each  FS Navigator User adds an extra half the Bandwidth to the Server, as each Pilot on line... Roll Eyes...!

All this adds to the chance of various Pilots unable to connect, or get disconnected, during the Session!

Only the slightest little hiccup in the system can spoil a Session!... Cry...!

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I don't think that's the case for us.  The Server we use, is for SimV only.  And it's NEVER full of pilots.

Sam even has it set up for unlimited pilots here because there is so much bandwidth available. 

Each site uses their own server to run FSHost, Look at WSP's server, it's ALWAYS more busy than we are, and I don't ever have this problem over there. I wonder though, how many I've kept from joining there in the past due to my port problem. Embarrassed
 
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Reply #31 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 7:54am

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WSP is interesting, in that we have the choice of a connection to one of three separate Port Addresses...
23456, 23457, and 23458.... which a fantastic idea... Smiley...!

Lots of us join WSP, many running FS Navigator, with no problems that I've been aware of... Smiley...!

Everyone's correct Ports appear to open automatically upon connection... Smiley...!

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Reply #32 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 8:01am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 9th, 2009 at 7:54am:
WSP is interesting, in that we have the choice of a connection to one of three separate Port Addresses...
23456, 23457, and 23458.... which a fantastic idea... Smiley...!





That's because they are running 3 separate servers! Shocked  They really love their pilots. Grin Wink

I suspect the port problem doesn't exist there because they are the world's serious pilots. Grin Wink
 
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Reply #33 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 8:33am

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...we are also quite Posh, as well... Cool...!

.... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

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Reply #34 - Sep 9th, 2009 at 8:50am

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For those that need them:
(like me! Cheesy )

I've added step by step pics on the first page for opening ports in the firewall, and a shot of what your router firewall should look like. Wink
 
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Reply #35 - Sep 10th, 2009 at 8:52pm

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I opened all my ports (a lot were closed Shocked)  I still can't run the port test tho
 


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Reply #36 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 7:01am

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skoker wrote on Sep 10th, 2009 at 8:52pm:
I opened all my ports (a lot were closed Shocked)  I still can't run the port test tho



What do you mean, you can't run it? Huh

Do you run it and it fails?
    
      or...

You just can't get the test itself to work?
 
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Reply #37 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 7:36am

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I love it when the Text in that DOS Window scrolls all the way down with the reports: OK!

....and finishes up with:
"Testing Complete. No errors found....Press any key to exit".... Smiley...!

..so much joy!

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Reply #38 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 7:45am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 11th, 2009 at 7:36am:
I love it when the Text in that DOS Window scrolls all the way down with the reports: OK!

....and finishes up with:
"Testing Complete. No errors found....Press any key to exit".... Smiley...!

..so much joy!

Paul...any Port in a storm!.... Cool...!



Same here, it's nice to go online and feel guilt free about the ports. Wink

As John stated earlier though, some users may have an ISP that blocks ports, thus making it much harder to get them open. Shocked

 
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I find that a healthy diet of Fruit and Vegetables, every day, aids in keeping ones Ports in good working condition... Smiley...!

"Port Forwarding" should only be used as a last resort, and should only be used upon advice from your Doctor....

...trust me...Wink...!

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Reply #40 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 3:33pm

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 11th, 2009 at 8:20am:
I find that a healthy diet of Fruit and Vegetables, every day, aids in keeping ones Ports in good working condition... Smiley...!

"Port Forwarding" should only be used as a last resort, and should only be used upon advice from your Doctor....

...trust me...Wink...!

Paul..."An Apple a day, keeps your ports; O.K!".... Wink...!


Funny paul,good ole english humour hey

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ShaneG wrote on Sep 11th, 2009 at 7:01am:
skoker wrote on Sep 10th, 2009 at 8:52pm:
I opened all my ports (a lot were closed Shocked)  I still can't run the port test tho



What do you mean, you can't run it? Huh

Do you run it and it fails?
    
      or...

You just can't get the test itself to work?

They keep timing out.  My brother (who set up the ports) says it might be from our slow internet connection.
 


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Reply #42 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 4:24pm
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Skoker, I have the same thing. FSporttester keeps timing out on me. However, did you download this portchecker? See what that tells you about your ports.

Crash Wink
 
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Reply #43 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 5:59pm

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Skoker, I have the same thing. FSporttester keeps timing out on me. However, did you download this portchecker? See what that tells you about your ports.

Crash Wink

It says that the ports are not open or not reachable!
 


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Reply #44 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 6:31pm

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How does the computer you are on connect to the internet?

Is it networked through a router from a different computer, or is it directly connected to the net?
 
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Reply #45 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 6:53pm

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Direct from the main computer to the modem to the wall.
 


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Reply #46 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 9:24pm
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Did you disable the routers firewall or at least made some rules in it for allowing traffic on those ports?

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Reply #47 - Sep 11th, 2009 at 9:44pm

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Yeah I went and added exceptions to all the necessary ports
 


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Reply #48 - Sep 12th, 2009 at 7:52am

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Hmmm,

So you've

-Added every port listed to the windows firewall, and done the above site's router port method?

-Have you tried running the testers with the windows firewall turned off?


If these don't do it, then you may have to contact your ISP and see if they are blocking the ports in some way.
 
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