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Jul 21
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Does anyone know anything about the "Aurora" spy plane that supposedly is based at Area 51.
It is supposed to do about Mach 6+ and fly at the edge of space.
Here are some links about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29
http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm
http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/aurora.shtml
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60763/pg1
This spy plane was supposed to replace the SR-71 "Blackbird" (which suddenly went out of service in 1998.)
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Jul 21
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He knows too much get him!!!!
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Jul 21
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HEHE! lol!
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Jul 21
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Goes in the aviation section
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Jul 21
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oops srry, how do I move it?
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Jul 21
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Wait for the mods to.
Or just ask them....
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Jul 21
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Ok, thanks guys!
(how do I ask them?)
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Jul 21
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You don't really, you just wait and they will move it.
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Jul 21
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jrom wrote
on Jul 21
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Or just ask them....
Then why did you say that!?!?!?
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Jul 21
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Jul 21
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If you really want it moved send one of the Mods a PM & ask him to do it for you.
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Jul 21
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I don't want it moved THAT much!!
And I haven't gotten anything like what I wanted!
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Jul 21
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RaptorF22 wrote
on Jul 21
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Does anyone know anything about the "Aurora" spy plane that supposedly is based at Area 51.
It is supposed to do about Mach 6+ and fly at the edge of space.
Here are some links about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29
http://www.fas.org/irp/mystery/aurora.htm
http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/aurora.shtml
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread60763/pg1
This spy plane was supposed to replace the SR-71 "Blackbird" (which suddenly went out of service in 1998.)
According to some sources, the project was cancelled due to cost.
If you have not already looked, you might be interested in reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft
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Jul 21
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Well, first of all, that is a dud link. This is the correct one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29
And I think it is still in service, the US still needs strategic recon.
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Jul 21
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One way of looking at it, the USA has never retired a spy plane before a new one is up and running.
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Jul 21
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That's what I'm thinking, they didn't.
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Jul 21
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With spy satellites though, you don't need spy planes. Much safer, no real way to tell what they're looking at & when, and probably cheaper in the long run as well.
I'm willing to bet the Sr-71 was the last of her type. The Aurora most likely faded into a propaganda tool after initial prototypes flew and couldn't outperform the satellites in the above mentioned categories.
I'm also willing to bet that quite a bit of the technology from the Aurora project went into the Space Shuttle's replacement.
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Jul 21
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Some of that may be true, but a satellite's path can be predicted quite reliably; the enemy knows when to hide their trucks and scuds.
On the other hand, a stealth mach 6+ high altitude spy plane can not be tracked, jammed, or shot down. And it provides just as good, if not better intelligence.
And don't start suggesting UAVs either. With a UAV, the pilot sits at a video-game like console hundreds if not thousands of miles away and has hardly any situational awareness and no sense of danger. The enemy starts firing SAMs at the UAV, and if the pilot even knows about it at all, he can't/won't do anything about it because he hasn't the least sense of fear. The pilot's CO smacks him for losing a multi-million dollar UAV, and they send another one up. Valuable time, money, and intelligence are lost, that is not good in a war.
Now with a manned spy plane the pilot will do anything and everything possible to keep that SAM from hitting his plane, or else he is dead meat.
In my mind there will always be a place for manned spy planes in the sky and above the battlefield.
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Jul 21
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They have enough satellites up there now I'm sure that they have 24 hour coverage of the whole planet. You don't think GPS & Cell Phones were the first to reach global coverage do you.
Geosynchronous orbits mean no need for troublesome waits on orbits, & giving the target a chance to hide.
Now we know what the enemy is doing, and let enough happen to make it seem like we don't. We did this in WWII also when the Enigma code & IJN codes were broken. If they know you know, then they won't do it, and then you can't take action, thus making you obsolete.
Tricky stuff huh?
There are over 25,000 things orbiting the Earth, and that's just the ones they tell us about.
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Jul 21
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Good points, I suppose there is not much need for spy planes anymore.
*sigh* That thing was cool!
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Jul 21
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Somewhere I still have the original G.I. Joe : version of the Aurora.
http://www.finalfrontiertoys.com/JoeMOC/MISB_AFA_Jeff/GI_Joe_Phantom_X-19_AFA_85...
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Jul 21
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That thing does not look like the real plane.
Though it must be worth a lot!
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Jul 21
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RaptorF22 wrote
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That thing does not look like the real plane.
How do you know that? Nobody knows what it looks like, if it ever existed.
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Jul 21
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DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE LINKS!?!?!?!
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Jul 21
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Each of which is an artist's conception on what they thought it would look like.
Back in the late 1980's and early 1990's when there was a lot of buzz about this aircraft, lots of different possible designs and 'Bigfoot' photos of it were circulating around.
Several of the designs did indeed look like the toy I posted, as well as the ones you linked too.
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Jul 21
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I guess, but the overwhelming majority of them look like this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Aurora_x-plane_2.jpg
That leads me to believe that is what it looks like (and even if you prove me wrong (like you will most probably do) I will still stick to this design because it looks SOO much cooler than all the others
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Jul 21
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The pic you have posted there from Xplane is a plane that did indeed fly a year or two ago.
It was the test bed for a scram jet / hypersonic design.
It was a scaled down test bed model that was launched from the nose of a missle that was fired from a B-52 at high altitude.
Here is a good article on it:
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/research/x43-main.html
The Aurora myth has been around A LOT longer than this design it was around before the F-19, F-117, B-2 rumors started flying.
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Jul 21
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RaptorF22 wrote
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I guess, but the overwhelming majority of them look like this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Aurora_x-plane_2.jpg
That leads me to believe that is what it looks like (and even if you prove me wrong (like you will most probably do) I will still stick to this design because it looks SOO much cooler than all the others
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I can't prove you wrong because I have no idea if it exists or what it looks like if it does.
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Jul 21
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Oh well, I guess you guys got me beat.
The thing only exists in the minds of secret plane lovers like me
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Speaking of spy planes, dont forget that the U2 is still flying high around the world, so there is still a reason for them to be around. And from what I understand... some SR-71s might possibly be still flying. But not by the USAF. May not be true... but would be cool!
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That might be true, I completely overlooked that in my first post!
Thank you!
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RaptorF22 wrote
on Jul 21
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I don't want it moved THAT much!!
And I haven't gotten anything like what I wanted!
They are trying to direct your attention away from the plane that may or may not exist, through confusion and misdirection, so you don't disapier like the last member that asked about it...crap I said to much...
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