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Nick--FSX is freaking out! Have you seen this? (Read 912 times)
Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:04pm

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FSX has gone funky on me. It's showing building textures on the side of my planes, most airports don't have buildings anymore and it's taking 5 minutes to load at start-up.

What do I do? If I throw out the cfg file, do I have to reload all my add-on airports, scenery, etc? Isn't there a file that I can throw out that FSX will rebuild and possibly fix this? I don't want to go through adding everything.

This is unusable as-is. My clouds are British Airways planes! haha

Here's three screenshots:

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Reply #1 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:18pm

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Man, That is screwed up Shocked
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:26pm

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Mazza wrote on Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:18pm:
Man, That is screwed up Shocked

haha, you think? Embarrassed

I don't know what to do. I thought it was something software related but now I'm wondering if a hardware item is going bad---like my motherboard or video card. I sure hope Nick has seen this and has good news....
 

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Reply #3 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 10:39pm

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That's where I would start.  It could also be corrupted video drivers.  You could try uninstalling the driver, reboot in safe mode and run Driver Sweeper, reboot and reinstall the driver again & see if it fixes it.

You can rebuild the cfg too.  If you delete your cfg file then next time you start FSX you just have to reset your settings in the menus like graphics, scenery, traffic, etc.  Then close FSX and open the new cfg and add the edits in from the FSX optimization sticky.  If you use MyTraffic X you will need to run that routine that edits the cfg file as well.  There could be others like that if you have them.  Then you need to revalidate your addon aircraft by allowing them as trusted sources.

No big deal really, I never screwed any install by deleting & rebuilding the cfg file.  In fact it's a good thing to do once in a while, especially after installing new video cards or drivers.

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Reply #4 - Jun 26th, 2009 at 11:16pm

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I think your video card may be dying
 
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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2009 at 12:59am

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The first one appears to be an aeroplane wrapped in newspaper Grin
I'd try re-installing your drivers first, also check you texture folder to see if there is any corruption, you might need to re-install FSX if that is the case.
 

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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2009 at 8:50am

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i laughed when i saw gigantic halo lights textures on the globe lol.....
 

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Reply #7 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 5:04pm

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My first suspect would be bad video drivers, but after that I would try:
- If videocard is overclocked, try run at factory defaults
- run CPU + ram at default instead of overclocked
- rebuild the config file.
- reinstall FSX

It is always a good idea to check system temperatures, ram and file system for errors. Reinstalling FSX is quite an undertaking, especially if you have a lot of addons. I would do so as a last resort, but it might be the best thing. If you can, you could also use another harddrive for a quick reinstall of Windows and FSX to check if it is a software issue.
 
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Reply #8 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 5:13pm

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This is either video card failure, driver or FSX corruption

Most likely suspect is card is defective or overheating. Overheat can be from clock too high

I have also seen strange graphic issues with bufferpools set too high but typically that causes spikes, not what is seen above

Judging by the images its hardware and not FSX itself

Run 3DMark06 and see if it runs corrupt or bad.. if it does, no question its hardware or driver related but I cant see a driver all of a sudden doing this. If you just changed video drivers I can
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 5:33pm

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I went back to the 182.50 drivers.
I rebuilt the cfg file.
Made sure that the video card was at factory clock (it's overclocked already)
All is well for the moment.....

I did notice that my bufferpools were set to the 490000000 for sound problems. I had some cracking sounds and tried that. I forgot that I had set it there. My bufferpool is back now to 100000000. I don't have any sound problems there. Also, my TBM was at 90. I don't remember setting it that high. It's at 70 now.

This weirdness started almost immediately. Even just sitting at the terminal. It wasn't overheating. I had checked that several times.
 

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Reply #10 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 8:42pm

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May have spoken too soon...

We can't even get through an entire flight without a crash that says "display driver has stopped working"

I wish I could get the entire message but the box pops in and goes away with the freeze up.

Any thoughts?

EDIT:

I noticed that when I installed the 185 drivers, I didn't have my Nvidia control panel anymore. I went to their site and installed it and now I have several other Nvidia items like Nvidia Performance, Nvidia PhysX, Nvidia System monitor and Nvidia System update. These may have been here before but I don't remember seeing that many programs when I went to remove the driver before.

I looked in the Nvidia control panel and "Enable PhysX GPU acceleration" is checked for my card. FSX is not a PhysX game, right? Should I disable this? Should I remove any of those items?
 

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Reply #11 - Jun 28th, 2009 at 11:29pm

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stevehookem wrote on Jun 28th, 2009 at 8:42pm:
May have spoken too soon...

We can't even get through an entire flight without a crash that says "display driver has stopped working"

I wish I could get the entire message but the box pops in and goes away with the freeze up.

Any thoughts?

EDIT:

I noticed that when I installed the 185 drivers, I didn't have my Nvidia control panel anymore. I went to their site and installed it and now I have several other Nvidia items like Nvidia Performance, Nvidia PhysX, Nvidia System monitor and Nvidia System update. These may have been here before but I don't remember seeing that many programs when I went to remove the driver before.

I looked in the Nvidia control panel and "Enable PhysX GPU acceleration" is checked for my card. FSX is not a PhysX game, right? Should I disable this? Should I remove any of those items?


Turn off PhysX... It's good, but eats up alot of GPU and or CPU stuffs...It's a good little thing, I somehow set one core to use it and the other 3 to play the game (MoH:A) Hehe... But killing them with a pistol sometimes causes them to fly 50M backwards doing flips Grin

Oh and FSX does not use it! Wink
 

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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 7:57am

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If you do not use Physx for other games you can either disable the feature (it is disabled by default with newer NV drivers) or uninstall it from add and remove programs

If the video corruption shown above happens after returning the system to normal (no bufferpools) and running the 182.50 drivers and DirectX is in fact updated,..  I think you have a defective video card



 run 3DMark06 and see if the test finishes without visual corruption. If it doesnt finish the test or the image is corrupt/poor then I am sure you have a defective video card



and remember.. when using Nv drivers and Nhancer you must make sure you are on the right version of Nhancer and dot NET. For driver 182.50 and above Nhancer 2.5.1 and .Net 3.5 is required


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Reply #13 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 10:59am

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I am downloading 3dMark06 now. I ran OCCT 10 passes last night and it found no errors.

Also, I just tried to install .net 3.5 and I get a "setup error" message when it finishes. Any ideas what that may be about?
 

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Reply #14 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 11:35am

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OCCT is not to be used for video card testing, only CPU

The GPU test is BETA and should not be used

I do not know what may be causing Net 3.5 setup problems however you do not need Nhancer or Net to run 3DMark
 
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Reply #15 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 12:11pm

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started running 3dmark06 and after about 45 seconds, the screen goes crazy with weird patterns and circles. I'm assuming this isn't part of the test, right? Does it stay showing the shooting game or is it supposed to switch to pattens? It looks like is has frozen up. My cursor doesn't move.

Bad video card?
 

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Reply #16 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 2:28pm

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Reply #17 - Jun 29th, 2009 at 4:24pm

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If it wont run 3DMark06 and the drivers are confirmed (182.50 are) its a bad card

There is one other possibility and that is the PSU is shot on the PCIe rails. That I would consider very rare if everything else is working fine,.. but it is possible.

I would have the card replaced.
 
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