yancovitch wrote on Jun 11
th, 2009 at 12:00pm:
is there a list of systems being used by simmers here, which are capable of running with sliders high?......if the good systems could be listed which work really well with fsx, along with description of settings, it would be really helpful to those starting a build.....someone recommended components to me here about a year and a half ago, and i've been frustrated with it ever since........a list of proven systems would be really nice .....maybe it already exists??
Basic Parts List
Asus P6T Deluxe v2
GTX 285 video card.. fastest core and memory speed you can afford
i7 950 when they are released (975 if you want the extreme version.. much more expensive.. easier clocking)
A 920 D0 processor is ok for the budget builder but do keep in mind it wont be doing any 4.2+ GHz speeds without liquid cooling and getting those clocks with a 920 is the luck of the draw.. most 920s will top out at 3.8 to 4Hgz
WD VelociRaptor 300GB HD dedicated to FSX
If you have a large database of photoscenery anotheer WD Vrap unless the PS will not fit on a 300GB drive.. then get a fast 1TB drive for it
A good single drive for the OS
A decent CPU cooler to allow a 4GHz+ clock. The thermalright 120 1366 or the Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 is starting to look good too
DDR3 1600 memory.. lowest timing possible:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226060next in line
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381lowest timing wins in FSX
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009a good tower that allows a lot of airflow.. the rest of the parts is up to you
Must be a 64bit OS
You have to learn how to set things up based on which motherboard, processor and memory you buy
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 20x NOTE: FOR 920/940 only 965/975 WILL BE BLOCK 133 X MULTIPLIER .. FOR 4GHz = 30X
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: DISABLED
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech: DISABLED
BLCK Frequency: 200 - NOTE: THIS MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE IT DEPENDS ON YOUR CPU AND COOLING SOLUTION. 965/975 WILL BE 133 BUT IT CAN BE ADJUSTED TOO
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1600 NOTE: THIS WILL NOT BE 1600 WITH A 920/940/950 UNLESS BCLOCK IS 200. IT WILL BE BETWEEN 1400-1600 DEPENDING ON HOW HIGH YOU CAN GET BCLOCK. 965/975 THIS WILL BE 1600 WITHOUT QUESTION
UCLK Frequency: (AUTO SHOULD WORK) **
QPI Link Data Rate: (AUTO SHOULD WORK) **
** If improper NB in CPUz (3200), set the following:
UCLK Frequency: 3200Mhz = DRAM FREQUENCY X 2
QPI Link Data Rate: NOTE: AUTO usually works fine however higher is faster but it may also be unstable.. find stable highest setting or leave on AUTO
DRAM Timing Control:
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NOTE: CHART FOR MEMORY SETTINGS in CPUz to BIOS:
NOTE: Replace the memory timing values shown below with the timing for the purchased memory
CPUz VALUE - BIOS LIST = VALUE
CAS# Latency (CL) - DRAM CAS# LATENCY = 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) - DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay = 7
RAS# Precharge (tRP) - DRAM RAS# PRE TIME = 7
Cycle Time (tRAS) - DRAM RAS# ACT TIME=24
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1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 7
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 7
DRAM RAS# PRE Time: 7
DRAM RAS# ACT Time: 20
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay: AUTO
DRAM REF Cycle Time: AUTO
DRAM Write Recovery Time: AUTO
DRAM Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time: AUTO
DRAM Back-To-Back CAS# Delay: AUTO
2nd Information :
DRAM Timing Mode: 1N (same as CMD 1T in CPUz)
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHA: AUTO
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHB: AUTO
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHC: AUTO
3rd Information :
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (DD): AUTO
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (DR): AUTO
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (SR): AUTO
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (DD): AUTO
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (DR): AUTO
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (SR): AUTO
DRAM READ To READ Delay (DD): AUTO
DRAM READ To READ Delay (DR): AUTO
DRAM READ To READ Delay (SR): AUTO
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (DD): AUTO
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (DR): AUTO
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (SR): AUTO
CPU Voltage: FIND LOWEST STABLE VALUE - 4GHz typically 1.35-1.42v
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO (there are stability settings for high clocks)
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.35-1.40
IOH Voltage: AUTO
IOH PCIE Voltage: AUTO
ICH Voltage: AUTO
ICH PCIE Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.65 to 1.70 MAX - Typically 1.66
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA: AUTO
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA: AUTO
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB: AUTO
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB: AUTO
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC: AUTO
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Differential Amplitude: AUTO (note: .800mv may stabilize higher clock)
CPU Clock Skew: AUTO (100ps if used to stablize clock)
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
IOH Clock Skew : AUTO (100ps if used to stablize clock)
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 20x
C1E Suppport: DISABLED
Hardware Prefetcher: ENABLED
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: ENABLED
Intel® Virtualization Tech: DISABLED
CPU TM Function: (ENABLED = PROTECTED - DISABLED = ALLOW FULL FUNCTION WITHOUT PROTECTION) Typically DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit: DISABLED
Intel (R) HT Techology: DISABLED (ENABLED FOR APPLICATIONS THAT USE HYPERTHREAD -WILL HEAT PROC)
Active Processor Cores: ALL
A20M: DISABLE
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: DISABLED
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech: DISABLED
Intel (R) C-STATE Tech: DISABLED
Learn how to set up the clock and test it with REALTEMP v3.0 and higher and the 1hr automatic stress test in OCCT.. CPU MAX limit will be 80c in those tests
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Since you now have the new HS installed lets get preped for clocking, download RealTemp 3.0 or above from here
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1325k/RealTemp_3.00.zipUnzip and place the folder somewhere on the system where it can reside all the time, them make a shortcut to the desktop for Realtemp.exe.
When the program is run, in the settings area, Click SET TJMAX and then set the TJMAX to 100c for all 4 cores, click apply. The true MAX temp of i7 is 100c which you never want to get close to or exceed (proc death above 100) however at 80c the proc begins shutting itself down in a protection mode. The goal when we clock will be to obtain the highest CPU speed on the lowest CPU voltage, stable, without going over 80c in a full 1hour load test.
On the GUI you will see CPU diode temp and how far it has to go before it hits the max
When we load test for clocking you will use this software which you can download and install:
http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Downloadget the auto installer there
After OCCT is installed, in its properties set the MAX TEMP to 80c. That will mean the test will automatically fail if you are unstable or if you hit 80c.
The ONLY test that will be used in that software is the automatic 1hr CPU stress test
You are now ready to test for your high clock when we get to that point.
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There is no such thing as a 'MAGIC" punchlist of settings everyone can use.. however what I posted above can be used as a template to start the process
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