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Reply #30 - Jun 12th, 2009 at 8:11pm

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packercolinl wrote on Jun 12th, 2009 at 8:02am:
By 2000 everyone would have a watch run by a nuclear power source Smiley

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Perhaps not quite what they had in mind. http://www.atomic-clock.org.uk/atomuhr.html

ShaneG wrote on Jun 12th, 2009 at 10:35am:
I'm still waiting on the damn flying cars they promised back in the '50s & '60s. Roll Eyes Grin


 

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Reply #31 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 9:35am

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Ok back to the subject

Pleaseeeee Don't believe what any one said space is huge too empty , trust me I do better astronomy than airplanes ( Tongueiaghh that sounds like a little bit show off here) But its true , Nothing is going to happen, Neither the other things IS around the web that there is and asteroid that will pass between earth and the moon (LMAO)

Imagine that a water tank is the Sun

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3 mt tall the earth would be the size of and orange ,and it would be two blocks away 200 Mts , Marth would be the size of a lemon and it would be 600 metter 6 blocks away from the sun  

The earth has spin around this star (sun) 5 BILLION times and maybe when this rock was still Hot there was an impact of an object as marth and cause the Moon and I believe the super Giant continent pangea was also for that result ,  ,I mean there is too many iron on the surface too many elements (But this is alex though) But this is too longh to explain My own theory ..

Planets are trapped in the suns orbit they always been like this ,Read from books there are many good programs at National Geographic and Discovery ,If something would thread life on earth do you think Humanity would be this cool at this moment?  Cool

I remember in 1999 when every one where sure that hercolubus an Imaginary planet that Stpids Astrologers invented bigger than Jupiter was going to Hit the earth ,or the computer Y2k were going to make a catastrophe , I don't know who start this new one for the 2012 ..Jezz!  


And Hollywood is making and excellent work, In almost 99% of the disaster movies the Have to destroy New York ,How many movies you have to see the Poor Liberty statue being destroy ..counless  Angry Jezz

Now they came Out with the Bright Idea Knowing with Nicolas Cage ,  a huge sun flame reach the earth and burn the surface  more than a thousands degrees, I never seen such of insane/stupid hilarious  Idea (well except In The Core and in The Day After Tommorow Roll Eyes),
Producers and Writters  Please talk to astronomers in Harvard or Cambridge please and tell what you are about to do to put in a movie,YOU KNOW? as they are laws against harming animal and the Monitoring all the movies ,Its a law THEY SHOULD MAKE ONE THAT HAS TO BE STUDY FIRST OF ITS RELEASE like This movie has been monitoring by astronomers or scientist and its free of stupidities and ignorance    Grin

and stop making the science a crazy thing ,this is why the Hedron accelerator is being a victim of Ignorants ,that a black hole will grow and eat the earth then the solar system ROLF  Grin READ ,STUDY!! ,..
 
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Reply #32 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 10:05am

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 9:35am:
 

Planets are trapped in the suns orbit they always been like this ,Read from books there are many good programs at National Geographic and Discovery ,If something would thread life on earth do you think Humanity would be this cool at this moment?  Cool



Everything is in a clever balance between its velocity and the Sun's gravity pulling on it. Everything orbiting the Sun is constantly falling into it, but its going so fast that by the time it reaches the point where it would collide, it is out of the way. This is called dynamic equilibrium. This equilibrum can be offset and "bad" things can happen.

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Reply #33 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 10:49am

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 9:35am:
 

Planets are trapped in the suns orbit they always been like this ,Read from books there are many good programs at National Geographic and Discovery ,If something would thread life on earth do you think Humanity would be this cool at this moment?  Cool



Everything is in a clever balance between its velocity and the Sun's gravity pulling on it. Everything orbiting the Sun is constantly falling into it, but its going so fast that by the time it reaches the point where it would collide, it is out of the way. This is called dynamic equilibrium. This equilibrum can be offset and "bad" things can happen.

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..which is why I sometimes fall out of Bed in the night, after a Friday evening binge down at the Local.. Embarrassed...!

Gravity is stronger, and Equilibrium is non-existent, in that situation.....

...trust me...Wink...!

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Reply #34 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 10:52am

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Fozzer wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 10:49am:
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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 9:35am:
 

Planets are trapped in the suns orbit they always been like this ,Read from books there are many good programs at National Geographic and Discovery ,If something would thread life on earth do you think Humanity would be this cool at this moment?  Cool



Everything is in a clever balance between its velocity and the Sun's gravity pulling on it. Everything orbiting the Sun is constantly falling into it, but its going so fast that by the time it reaches the point where it would collide, it is out of the way. This is called dynamic equilibrium. This equilibrum can be offset and "bad" things can happen.

Cool


..which is why I sometimes fall out of Bed in the night, after a Friday evening binge down at the Local.. Embarrassed...!

Gravity is stronger, and Equilibrium is non-existent, in that situation.....

...trust me...Wink...!

Paul... Wink... Grin...!


Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #35 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 2:32pm

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 9:35am:
 

Planets are trapped in the suns orbit they always been like this ,Read from books there are many good programs at National Geographic and Discovery ,If something would thread life on earth do you think Humanity would be this cool at this moment?  Cool



Everything is in a clever balance between its velocity and the Sun's gravity pulling on it. Everything orbiting the Sun is constantly falling into it, but its going so fast that by the time it reaches the point where it would collide, it is out of the way. This is called dynamic equilibrium. This equilibrum can be offset and "bad" things can happen.

Cool


Indeed and thanks to johannes kepler and Newton we know those rules of perfection mechanism   ,I admire much more the German BTW  Wink
I don't get it People of those time without tool seems smarter than us today with all our modern things ,Maybe because there was no TV..LOL

Nothing will happen Brando  Cheesy
 
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Reply #36 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 4:23pm

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Alex, just so you know, nobody really "started" the 2012 date.  It comes from the Mayan calendar.  December 21st is not, however, a date for the end of the world, but most likely some form of shift in ideas, also known as a paradigm shift.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar_end#2012_and_the_Long_Count
 

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Reply #37 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 5:09pm

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Travis wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 4:23pm:
Alex, just so you know, nobody really "started" the 2012 date.  It comes from the Mayan calendar.  December 21st is not, however, a date for the end of the world, but most likely some form of shift in ideas, also known as a paradigm shift.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayan_calendar_end#2012_and_the_Long_Count



Ohhh Yes  Embarrassed Embarrassed Oh Travis I'm getting real old ,Yes the mayan calendar and I completely forgot about it..

My friends all I can say there are thousands of ways that life on earth could be exterminated ,the Powerful emanation of gamma ray sources , this is worth when we detect one every 30 second from galaxies far away we are just looking one of the pole sides Most of them in very far galaxies so far .

What we detect is just on of the side of the exposures from Giants Black holes So this means this is more common , If M31 one of its star colapes in this way we at
Correction 2.2 million
2.5 billion years light away would be in trouble if we are on the beam gamma rays track   Undecided

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Other way is Betelgeuse in our own galaxy ,antares and other red giants are candidate to becomes super nova any time , that will be the end of life on earth..

and I find from many other this one more impressive and very scary a massive neutrino exposure also made by different phenomenon as spinning of the two black holes ending collapsing and are the most powerful things in nature since the big bang we will be fried if this happened in galaxies at 8 light years away  Embarrassedthere is a theory a brand new one very interesting call the sterilizations of life in space is a book ,Its being a mystery we haven't pick up a radio signal from SETI or radio astronomers Yet where they should be thousand of intelligent life Just in our own galaxy, this theory talks about that there is no life because of this reason  Undecided Embarrassedthese even prevents and kill the life on every planet Like ours in the whole universe  

I will ad one more ,There are many many more ways
Halley's Comet its about 15Km of diameter ,Does any one remember the Hale Bob comet? this 250KM Giant comet was discovered a year after pasing the sun and went out of the solar system ,what if we find a new one there are trillions beyond the sun in a cloud ,we can find one i9n a collapsing trajectory to this earth ,and believe me Nothing can stop those surprisingly objects ,none of technology made by human ,they are too fast and too big  Shocked,

there are many threads ,a 15 KM asteroids like the one who kills the dinasous is nothing compare to these events ,this would be death ,vaporisation of the oceans .  

Yes ,But I think we are not alone ,we are here for a reason ,Life has been here for too long ,Time enough to see how different species has evolutionist ,to make one matter earn Life and latter have a cosiness about what we are where we going ,Our life in this planet is a miracle and I'm sorry I don't believe in Lucky ,Someone is taking care of us  Lips Sealed  

Lets be positive , and Come on  Cheesy as I said Mars wont crash the earth , and there is no a hidden planet name hercolubus  
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Reply #38 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 5:49pm

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Did anyone bother to read what the prediction is? Roll Eyes
This is Black-Sheep's original post.
The-Black-Sheep wrote on Jun 11th, 2009 at 9:08am:
"A wobble in the precise clockwork of the solar system could see the Earth collide with Mercury, Mars or Venus, scientists have predicted.
But they say reassuringly that such a mishap is unlikely to occur for billions of years.

I'm not likely to be around in 10 years time, let alone billions of years. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it. LOL Cheesy

This made me think of the 4-minute warning we were promised in the event of a nuclear attack during the Cold War. Not sure what use 4 minutes would be to anyone. Just enough time to kiss your arse goodbye before being blown to oblivion. For all the good it would do I'd rather not know. Wink
 

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Reply #39 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 6:37pm

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Hagar wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 5:49pm:
Did anyone bother to read what the prediction is? Roll Eyes
This is Black-Sheep's original post.
The-Black-Sheep wrote on Jun 11th, 2009 at 9:08am:
"A wobble in the precise clockwork of the solar system could see the Earth collide with Mercury, Mars or Venus, scientists have predicted.
But they say reassuringly that such a mishap is unlikely to occur for billions of years.

I'm not likely to be around in 10 years time, let alone billions of years. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it. LOL Cheesy

This made me think of the 4-minute warning we were promised in the event of a nuclear attack during the Cold War. Not sure what use 4 minutes would be to anyone. Just enough time to kiss your arse goodbye before being blown to oblivion. For all the good it would do I'd rather not know. Wink



Hagar, youv'e just reminded me of the emergency drills we had in
my first years of school. When the alarm sounded, we were told to kneel under our desktops and cover our heads with our hands, in the event of a nuclear attack.     Wink
 

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Reply #40 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 6:59pm

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Hagar wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 5:49pm:
Did anyone bother to read what the prediction is? Roll Eyes
This is Black-Sheep's original post.
The-Black-Sheep wrote on Jun 11th, 2009 at 9:08am:
"A wobble in the precise clockwork of the solar system could see the Earth collide with Mercury, Mars or Venus, scientists have predicted.
But they say reassuringly that such a mishap is unlikely to occur for billions of years.

I'm not likely to be around in 10 years time, let alone billions of years. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it. LOL Cheesy

This made me think of the 4-minute warning we were promised in the event of a nuclear attack during the Cold War. Not sure what use 4 minutes would be to anyone. Just enough time to kiss your arse goodbye before being blown to oblivion. For all the good it would do I'd rather not know. Wink



Ok ,What Source ?,and which scientist?,  I've have also read the Resonance effect in the solar system, But Just a theory ,to hear about mercury and mars crashing among each other tells me a solar system smaller than the size of the sun
 
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Reply #41 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:07pm

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 6:59pm:
Ok ,What Source ?,and which scientist?,  I've have also read the Resonance effect in the solar system, But Just a theory ,to hear about mercury and mars crashing among each other tells me a solar system smaller than the size of the sun  

That's the whole point Alex. Even if this prediction is by the most respected astronomers & scientists on the planet it's only a theory & it will remain so until they can prove it. Like all these fantastic theories that will never happen. Nobody can prove them wrong either. That's how these people manage to obtain grants for further research & more fantastic theories. Wink

PS. I'm more worried about whether it's going to rain tomorrow. Tongue
 

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Reply #42 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:25pm

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Due to ununpleasant visit I couldn't finish my idea,sorry

there is a resonance every certain time ,this doesn't occur in specific years this involve interior planets  asteroids fields included , every ellipse on each planet will enter in resonance effect causing disturbances
IN THE ASTEROID FIELD ONLY
The earth is the biggest solid planet on the solar system ,which would be like a magneto,I mean a vacum because it has a strong gravitational field bringing some of this asteroids thru a posible collision.
(Resonance I mean You know those Vocal singers that can brake Cristal glass ?, they need a specific tone according to the mass of the Cup of cristal glass , when you find the correct Tone resonance of the glass begins to shake causing the braking of it Is a Orther causing chaos. the same effect happen in  because the orbit of all planets according to this theory)
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This will not occur in 2012, neither in 3000 this take a lot of time and the inverse of polarity many things was the cause of this phenomenon which happended before the first live came out in the early earth.(this is a whole resonancy stuff its a theory, all right?)

There is another terror around the web ,is also about that the solar system will get into the center of the field of the galaxy ,causing also a disordered and chaos ,But this never happened from one day to another  ,what will happend is that Our point of view Scorpius and Sagittarius will be in the exact center of the Vernal point (Sorry I'm really having a lot of problem to bring the concept into English) but is a matter of Point of view and someone saids that the earth in 2012 will be inside of the field of the galaxy ,Just like that , Movements of these objects doesn't happend that fast takes Millions of years ..
 
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Reply #43 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:34pm

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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:25pm:
what will happend is that Our point of view Scorpius and Sagittarius will be in the exact center of the Vernal point (Sorry I'm really having a lot of problem to bring the concept into English)

You explain it very well Alex. All I would say to you is "Prove It". Until you can do that I will remain a confirmed sceptic. Tongue

The news media love a good scare story. They troll this nonsense out regularly on bad news days.
 

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Reply #44 - Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:51pm

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Hagar wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:34pm:
Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Jun 13th, 2009 at 7:25pm:
what will happend is that Our point of view Scorpius and Sagittarius will be in the exact center of the Vernal point (Sorry I'm really having a lot of problem to bring the concept into English)

You explain it very well Alex. All I would say to you is "Prove It". Until you can do that I will remain a confirmed sceptic. Tongue

The news media love a good scare story. They troll this nonsense out regularly on bad news days.


No , this actually will happen ,I mean is like II said that the moon with be Full (full Moon ) tomorrow a point of view of the constellations from the earth ,is like alinement's of the planes , they are not allings really but we saw venus, mercury ,Jupiter and saturn about 10 years ago very close (is our point of view ) but they are not really al lined


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PS. I'm more worried about whether it's going to rain tomorrow.


But its raining here a lot and just screw up a date I had, was a god Saturday ,never had chances like this and why why?  Cry No kidding  Angry

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