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Jun 10
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, 2009 at 10:04pm
B-Valvs
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Did anyone just see the new episode featuring the Blue Angels? It was great. I was very surprized that the sonic booms can'treally break glass.
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I haven't seen it (no Sky TV for a while) but it sounds interesting.
Hmm, I would have thought it could. Did they basically stick a pane of glass out in the open and sonic boom it?
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I'm not convinced...
The episode hasn't aired here yet, but there's been lots of reports of lots of broken windows, after the wall's been broken.
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I was very surprized that the sonic booms can't really break glass.
Tell that to the people living in the South of England & around Farnborough in the 1950s & 60s.
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5 passes, 200 feet...
Then the only thing to break is a single pane of glass from flexing too much. Odd, but it was still pretty entertaining.
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Ahhh! I missed it! Have to look it up on Hulu.
Been watching this show whenever I can catch it. One of the greatest educational shows I've ever seen. Watching them blow things up has really brought me joy over the past few months . . .
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Hagar wrote
on Jun 11
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, 2009 at 1:31pm:
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I was very surprized that the sonic booms can't really break glass.
Tell that to the people living in the South of England & around Farnborough in the 1950s & 60s.
You beat me to it Hagar. Although I have not seem the a for mentioned episode, I would have thought that a big factor in whether glass breaks is how it is mounted. In modern plastic window frames, the glass is able to vibrate and to a certain extent move. In the old steel frame and putty windows a pain of glass was very limited in it's ability to move. Also, as Mythbusters is a California based series, I would bet that the wall used to hold the glass was wood. Again a flexible material. Bricks and concrete and a metal frame with putty (old English way) would give another result I would have thought. However I am looking forward to seeing this episode.
Matt
Edit Just seem a brief preview on youtube, as I thought, all wooden frames, and as for the car, mounted in rubber.
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Jun 14
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On 9-11 Two F-16's went Supersonic over my house and blew out a window, and knocked everything off our walls.
Granted it was an old house with plate glass windows in metal & brick framing, but still, it felt like a large truck had hit the house.
I walked out side and everyone on the street was outside and looking up.
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Jun 14
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I haven't seen that episode but when this was a free country we Bough twenty ones F-16, I was in 6 grade ,the whole country were celebrating that as a party ,the country have few issues with another one a neighbour country a very long time ago
,the airplanes where pilot By Americans Pilots ,they pass too close and very fast there was a Building with Business in the lower floor when One of those F-16 pass we just hear an explosion Louder than the engines, similar as if it were and earthquake but with a blast,everything moves and shake ,I still remember very clear and brake Many glasses including Glass tables in My school ,I was there ,I was a Kid ,I was withness ,YES IT BRAKE GLASSES..
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Jun 14
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I remember the late 50's and early 60's. Had sonic booms several times a year near my place. Yes, it does break glass and scare the begeevers out of you if you aren't expecting it. Some glass breaks and some doesn't, as afore mentioned, depending on its installation and possibly its thickness. I am thinking altitude would change the effect also, the aircraft I saw were somewhere between 2 and 4 thousand feet.
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expat wrote
on Jun 13
th
, 2009 at 1:05pm:
Hagar wrote
on Jun 11
th
, 2009 at 1:31pm:
Quote:
I was very surprized that the sonic booms can't really break glass.
Tell that to the people living in the South of England & around Farnborough in the 1950s & 60s.
You beat me to it Hagar. Although I have not seem the a for mentioned episode, I would have thought that a big factor in whether glass breaks is how it is mounted. In modern plastic window frames, the glass is able to vibrate and to a certain extent move. In the old steel frame and putty windows a pain of glass was very limited in it's ability to move. Also, as Mythbusters is a California based series, I would bet that the wall used to hold the glass was wood. Again a flexible material. Bricks and concrete and a metal frame with putty (old English way) would give another result I would have thought. However I am looking forward to seeing this episode.
Matt
Edit Just seem a brief preview on youtube, as I thought, all wooden frames, and as for the car, mounted in rubber.
As I recall a lot of the complaints were from smallholders with greenhouses. Add to that the fact that most aircraft at the time were only supersonic in a dive. The test pilots at the Farnborough displays deliberately aimed the boom at the airfield.
I can't remember where I read it now but Eric 'Winkle' Brown* told a story about when he flew the F-86 in the US. The other test pilots persuaded him to try a sonic boom over the base & gave him the exact course to fly. He was summoned to the Station Commander's office next morning & given a good talking to by the man himself. Apparently he'd shattered the glass in his greenhouse. The CO then invited him home for dinner. I don't know how true this is but it makes a good story.
*Captain Eric Brown has flown more types of aircraft than any other pilot. 487 basic types not including variants. This record is unlikely ever to be beaten.
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I haven't been able to see the episode, but I'm wondering when in it they said that a sonic boom couldn't break glass?
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-sonic-boom-sound-off-high-speed.html
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Travis wrote
on Jun 14
th
, 2009 at 7:57pm:
I haven't been able to see the episode, but I'm wondering when in it they said that a sonic boom couldn't break glass?
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-sonic-boom-sound-off-high-speed.html
The myth was that
any
sonic boom will break
any
glass.
That was the only window they were able to break.
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Well, okay. Splitting hairs is fine, but sonic booms CAN break windows . . .
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Jun 15
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charlesed wrote
on Jun 14
th
, 2009 at 10:05pm:
Travis wrote
on Jun 14
th
, 2009 at 7:57pm:
I haven't been able to see the episode, but I'm wondering when in it they said that a sonic boom couldn't break glass?
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-sonic-boom-sound-off-high-speed.html
The myth was that
any
sonic boom will break
any
glass.
That was the only window they were able to break.
edited for so many typos...
Yes, thanks. I was about to say that. That means planes, bullets, anything going supersonic. It didn't work. They had tables full of all kinds of glass stuff set up, a car, and a small "house" set up. That one pane of glass is the only thing that they were able to break.
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Jun 15
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But it did break.
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ShaneG wrote
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, 2009 at 5:44pm:
But it did break.
It did
brake
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Travis wrote
on Jun 15
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, 2009 at 6:58pm:
ShaneG wrote
on Jun 15
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But it did break.
It did
brake
.
Oh yeah?
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Quote:
charlesed wrote
on Jun 14
th
, 2009 at 10:05pm:
Travis wrote
on Jun 14
th
, 2009 at 7:57pm:
I haven't been able to see the episode, but I'm wondering when in it they said that a sonic boom couldn't break glass?
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-sonic-boom-sound-off-high-speed.html
The myth was that
any
sonic boom will break
any
glass.
That was the only window they were able to break.
edited for so many typos...
Yes, thanks. I was about to say that. That means planes, bullets, anything going supersonic. It didn't work. They had tables full of all kinds of glass stuff set up, a car, and a small "house" set up. That one pane of glass is the only thing that they were able to break.
I haven't watched the video but I suspect Matt is correct. It all depends on the type of glass & how it's framed. Most of the complaints around here in the 50s & 60s were from smallholders & market gardeners with greenhouses. These were large areas of low grade glass loosely mounted in wooden frames. The vibration from a sonic boom caused by an aircraft would have a good chance of breaking at least some of the panes. I don't know for certain but I imagine even the greenhouse glass manufactured today is superior to what was used 60 years ago.
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ShaneG wrote
on Jun 15
th
, 2009 at 7:03pm:
Travis wrote
on Jun 15
th
, 2009 at 6:58pm:
ShaneG wrote
on Jun 15
th
, 2009 at 5:44pm:
But it did break.
It did
brake
.
Oh yeah?
Touche!
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Travis wrote
on Jun 16
th
, 2009 at 2:09am:
ShaneG wrote
on Jun 15
th
, 2009 at 7:03pm:
Travis wrote
on Jun 15
th
, 2009 at 6:58pm:
ShaneG wrote
on Jun 15
th
, 2009 at 5:44pm:
But it did break.
It did
brake
.
Oh yeah?
Touche!
Abusing your power? Just a
little
?
Just this once maybe.
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A lot of the results of Mythbusters' 'research' are completely flawed because they focus on issues from just one angle - because it's all for fun of course...
For example, the 'running or walking in the rain' episode concluded it's better to walk because you get more wet if you run (if my memory serves). But they didn't mention that if you run you get indoors and out of the cold + wet quicker...
Having said that, it's one of the most entertaining programmes I know... my favourite was when they blew up the cement mixer
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