Simviation Forum - Boot from CD w/outboard USB CD drive?

May 4^th, 2009 at 10:20am

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Ol' "Build 1" seems to have freaked out, won't boot in any mode. Tried the CMOS jumper, even pulling the battery, etc... but no joy. Last time this happened I was a able to boot from the XP disc and do a repair install, but it's not working this time. I'm wondering if it's because I've been using an external drive that connects via USB...? I can try pulling the CD drive from Build 2, but trying to get more info first.
No floppy drive in this machine either, never did make a recovery floppy, so that's not an option. Any thoughts?

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Reply #1 - May 4^th, 2009 at 10:25am

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Have you changed the device in the BIOS so the first boot device is the USB one?

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Reply #2 - May 4^th, 2009 at 11:21am

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ozzy72 wrote on May 4^th, 2009 at 10:25am:

Have you changed the device in the BIOS so the first boot device is the USB one?

Um... selected "CD", but maybe that's causing it to look in the wrong place. I'll dig deeper, thanks.

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Reply #3 - May 4^th, 2009 at 6:28pm

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I hadn't seen "USB CDROM" before, but alas, even that will not work. After loading a boatload of drivers, etc. the install program finally realizes there's a registry error and grinds to a halt. Can't boot in safe mode, can't run recovery console, can't do anything with it. Boat-anchor city.
I may be able to connect each HDD in turn to the other PC and at least try to pull off the few things I want to save. Damn good thing I recently put most of the photos and captured video onto CDs... also a good thing I have a second machine, or I wouldn't be able to whine about this on the Internet. Grin

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Reply #4 - May 4^th, 2009 at 11:36pm

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F-8 after system boot

LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATION

if that dont do it.. and you cant get into safe mode,, you got big time corruption.. ether the drive went poo-poo or something in that system wrote corruted data to the disk... seen memory do that or a blown clock

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Reply #5 - May 5^th, 2009 at 3:45pm

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NickN wrote on May 4^th, 2009 at 11:36pm:

F-8 after system boot

LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATION

if that dont do it.. and you cant get into safe mode,, you got big time corruption.. ether the drive went poo-poo or something in that system wrote corruted data to the disk... seen memory do that or a blown clock

I'm thinking the same... Safe mode, last known, etc. don't work. I think it picked up something, because IE was opening on startup just before it stopped booting.

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Reply #6 - May 6^th, 2009 at 8:22am

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Here's a chance to show how little I know Tongue

Booting from a USB device is kinda impossible, isn't it ? Can a USB drive function fully BEFORE Windows is up and running ?

ANYway.. if you get past POST (no diagnostic beeps) and into Setup.. and select CD as the first boot device.. and have a CD drive connected (and jumpered as primary, if that's applicable).. and it STILL won't boot.. (trying more than one, bootable CD of course).. I can't imagine what to try next.. except maybe finding another CD drive, just to be sure.

If it won't boot to CD under those circs.. I don't imagine it would boot to a system floppy, either. This rules out re-flashing the BIOS (a corrupted BIOS could very well be the problem)..

ANYway.. mean time.. you can connect that C drive to your other computer as a slave, if you need toget to stuff.. But of course, if there's an "infection", you risk infecting THAT computer.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - May 6^th, 2009 at 10:58am

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You CAN boot from USB on most modern computers. Of course the ZX-81 has issues Wink

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Reply #8 - May 6^th, 2009 at 11:17am

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ozzy72 wrote on May 6^th, 2009 at 10:58am:

You CAN boot from USB on most modern computers. Of course the ZX-81 has issues Wink

LOL.. I'll take your word for it. I was just thinking.. that of all the computers I've built, the USB needed driver installation AFTER Windows was installed.. kinda like onboard Ethernet or onboard Sound.

Told ya I don't know much Cheesy

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Reply #9 - May 6^th, 2009 at 12:42pm

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There is a rather handy bit of freeware (I think from HP but I'll have to check when I get home) that allows you to turn a USB stick into a boot device Cool

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Reply #10 - May 6^th, 2009 at 1:50pm

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Have a look here:
http://www.bootdisk.com/pendrive.htm

Has the links to the hp software and other ways to setup the boot from a usb drive.

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