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Reply #15 -
May 3
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, 2009 at 7:04pm
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Steve M wrote
on May 3
rd
, 2009 at 2:58pm:
" I have heard that experience with glass cockpits, etc. in primary training can be a huge plus"
What does glass cockpit mean, I've heard it several times, but I never knew what it was.
Glass is nice, but it sure as s*** doesn't make you a better pilot!
---"They're also looking for pilots who are passionate about crewing airliners... that makes up for a lot, like having a community college degree in Liberal Arts and having only the bare minimum multi time. "---
Hmmm, sounds like me, minus the flying tubes.
"If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten, either write things worth reading, or do things worth the writing" -Ben Franklin&&&&"Man must rise above the Earth to the top of the atmosphere and beyond, for only thus will he fully understand the world in which he lives." - Socrates&&&&" Flying is a religion. A religion that asymilates all who get a taste of it." - Me&&&&"Make the most out of yourself, for that is all there is of you"- Ralf Waldo Emerson&&
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Reply #16 -
May 5
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Everything that I was going to say has been said, so I'll just say this. With ERAU, you're only paying for the name. You can get an equal or better education at any local four or two-year school, for a lot less money.
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Reply #17 -
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flyboy 28 wrote
on May 5
th
, 2009 at 12:28am:
Everything that I was going to say has been said, so I'll just say this. With ERAU, you're only paying for the name. You can get an equal or better education at any local four or two-year school, for a lot less money.
Thats interesting. What other schools offer programs like that?
Im actually really interested in ERAU after hearing about it and doing some research. It also has an AFROTC which is even better.
I didn't know other schools had programs like that where you can fly while learning and etc.
Although im hoping its not a big school thats extremly hard to get into.
Sincerely, Tyler
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Reply #18 -
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tcco94 wrote
on May 6
th
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flyboy 28 wrote
on May 5
th
, 2009 at 12:28am:
Everything that I was going to say has been said, so I'll just say this. With ERAU, you're only paying for the name. You can get an equal or better education at any local four or two-year school, for a lot less money.
Thats interesting. What other schools offer programs like that?
Well for one, North Dakota has a terrific flying program, which is where I was supposed to be this year if I could have afforded it. Others that come to mind are Jacksonville, Arizona State, U Alaska, and not to mention hundreds of community colleges that offer associates degrees for a lot less money. Most four-year schools also offer ROTC, NROTC and AFROTC.
Many four-year schools ain't cheap, especially out of state. And bear in mind that flight time is tacked on to your tuition, which could be upwards of $40-50,000 to eventually earn your commercial, CFI and multi ratings.
If you join a branch of the service, namely the Air Force, many bases have special services which include a few old-fashioned, steam-gauged 172's for you to work towards your license/rating, and you don't even have to be an officer. I know for one, Dover AFB has this.
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Reply #19 -
May 7
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Before I decided on the university that I am currently at, I was looking into the excellent aviation programs at Western Michigan University, and the University of Dubuque, Iowa.
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Sean_TK wrote
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th
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Before I decided on the university that I am currently at, I was looking into the excellent aviation programs at Western Michigan University, and the University of Dubuque, Iowa.
Where are you now?
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Reply #21 -
May 7
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flyboy 28 wrote
on May 7
th
, 2009 at 7:21pm:
tcco94 wrote
on May 6
th
, 2009 at 12:32am:
flyboy 28 wrote
on May 5
th
, 2009 at 12:28am:
Everything that I was going to say has been said, so I'll just say this. With ERAU, you're only paying for the name. You can get an equal or better education at any local four or two-year school, for a lot less money.
Thats interesting. What other schools offer programs like that?
Well for one, North Dakota has a terrific flying program, which is where I was supposed to be this year if I could have afforded it. Others that come to mind are Jacksonville, Arizona State, U Alaska, and not to mention hundreds of community colleges that offer associates degrees for a lot less money. Most four-year schools also offer ROTC, NROTC and AFROTC.
Many four-year schools ain't cheap, especially out of state. And bear in mind that flight time is tacked on to your tuition, which could be upwards of $40-50,000 to eventually earn your commercial, CFI and multi ratings.
If you join a branch of the service, namely the Air Force, many bases have special services which include a few old-fashioned, steam-gauged 172's for you to work towards your license/rating, and you don't even have to be an officer. I know for one, Dover AFB has this.
Well thats kinda nice to know because those are the schools im looking into are the Navy and Air Force ROTC. Although I know about cost for out of state and that you have to pay for flying but if ERAU is overpriced and you say its 40-50,000 I dont see how ERAU is overpriced when they are 52,000?
Sincerely, Tyler
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http://www.phoenixva.org/index.php/profile/view/PVA1557
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Reply #22 -
May 7
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, 2009 at 8:36pm
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Skoker,
Going for a non-aviation degree right now at Penn State.
I have been acquiring the aviation credentials on my own time.
I currently have a Private license with an Instrument rating and a complex aircraft endorsement. (Single-engine land aircraft. You can usually find me in either a Cessna 172S or a very nice 172RG. I started my initial flight training up to my first solo flight on a Cessna 150.)
Almost ended up at Dubuque, but there were more benefits attending Penn State from my current personal standpoint.
Either way, flight training is quite costly no matter if you do it through a college/university or privately.
The neat thing about doing the training though, is the realization that once you have the license, you'll have it forever (barring medical reasons or if you did something stupid), and you will have accomplished something that only a small percentage of the world population has done. (Relatively speaking...)
EDIT: A word of advice when you start. If the FBO tries to convince you to do all of your training on a glass cockpit (like a G1000) and they have a classic/steam-gauge aircraft available, take the steam gauges. Besides receiving cheaper training, you can always get glass later on.
Also, and jumping ahead a bit...after you get the private, be prepared for quite a bit of work with the instrument rating. It is in my opinion (and I believe others can vouch for this), the most challenging training that you can go through. Yes, you have things like the ATP rating, but that is mostly just the refining of established skills. The instrument is challenging simply due to the immense amount of brand new material you will be introduced to. FS really does help with instrument training though, so when you get to that point, practice, practice, practice.
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Reply #23 -
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I was going to go to ERAU for 4 years to get into a debt of well over $150,000!!! I talked to a first officer of a 767 from United Airlines and he talked me out of that stupid decision. He went to a community college with a good aviation program, received his certs and ratings, built up his time and eventually landed a job with United.
I'm now attending my community college (thankfully we have a nice aviation program) and am getting my associates in aeronautical science along with all my certs and ratings. I'm also going for a second degree probably in something with linguistics. Then I'll start working (pilot or not) and go to ERAU
online
to get my Bachelors.... much cheaper that way.
That way, my loans probably won't run over $50,000
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Reply #24 -
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SubZer0 wrote
on May 7
th
, 2009 at 10:54pm:
I was going to go to ERAU for 4 years to get into a debt of well over $150,000!!! I talked to a first officer of a 767 from United Airlines and he talked me out of that stupid decision. He went to a community college with a good aviation program, received his certs and ratings, built up his time and eventually landed a job with United.
I'm now attending my community college (thankfully we have a nice aviation program) and am getting my associates in aeronautical science along with all my certs and ratings. I'm also going for a second degree probably in something with linguistics. Then I'll start working (pilot or not) and go to ERAU
online
to get my Bachelors.... much cheaper that way.
That way, my loans probably won't run over $50,000
Well thats not a bad idea, although im interested in ERAU I might not decide to go their.
I did also read 1 in every 4 students go to AFROTC at ERAU. Although if I decide to not go their ill most likely just go to a diffrent college with Air Force or Navy ROTC.
I guess bringing up ERAU was a bad idea.
Sincerely, Tyler
www.tylerconnell.com
http://www.phoenixva.org/index.php/profile/view/PVA1557
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