$65 delivered for those plans?

I think sitting down for an hour or so and drawing some things up could produce similar results for hardly any cost whatsoever. Looks nice, but could be done for free quite easily.

machineman9 wrote on May 1^st, 2009 at 11:54am:


Bwahahahahahhahhaha! *gasps* Bwahahahhahahaha! *gasps*

Gimme a sec to catch my breath....

I will go as far as to say the price might be too high.  However, free is too low, especially considering the R&D time, research materials and software costs involved.  I knew when I started this project that I'd never recover my initial investment, but I figured it was more important that the project be made available to combat those absurd multi-thousand dollar fiberglass shells that your average simmer can't afford.  This cockpit can be realistically built for under $200, not including outfitting.


The $65 includes shipping and you're getting five plan sheets that are 3 feet wide by 7 feet long each, plus a CD with 400MB of content on it.  If you want to print it all yourself, there's that option as well.

As to "...sitting down for an hour or so and drawing some things up..."...

Well let's see this boils down to one of three things.

1.  You're a troll.  (damn!  fed the troll!)

2.  You have no idea what you're talking about and would't know a 3D parametric modeling tool if I snuck up behind you and hit you on the head with the box.

3.  You're a heretofore undiscovered design god and have the most completely overwhelming Design Fu that anyone, anywhere has ever seen.

Now my guess would be 2 or maybe 1.  If in case the answer is 3, I'll expect to see your design posted here by tomorrow morning.  I figure the extra time will allow you to properly design a hydraulic hexapod motion base and a 180 degree dome projection system.

Download the manual.  Read it.  If after that you STILL think you can do an equivalent or better job in "an hour or so" and you actually DO it, I'll eat my f'ing hat.

If you can find an equivalent cockpit design with plans that are cheaper than mine, I would *love* to see it.  Seriously.  I've been unable to find _any_ offering similar to mine at any price.

If $40/$50 is too high, what do you think a reasonable price should be?

g.

machineman9 wrote on May 3^rd, 2009 at 12:09pm:


Hurricane Mk IIC.  That keeps it in the same time frame as the Bf-109E-4 which my cockpit is based on.

1.  Must provide full sized plans for all parts.
2.  Must be within 2% dimensional accuracy of the IIc (mine is with respect to the E4)
3.  Must be actually buildable.
4.  Must be fully enclosed, including operating canopy.
5.  Structural material is to be 7/16" OSB or 1/2" MDF, the same as mine uses.

When you're done, I'll evaluate as to whether or not it can actually be built.  If I say it can't and the other thread readers agree, you'll get some mutually agreed # of hours to rectify the design flaws that prevent it from being built.  If after that time it still can't be built, that's it.

If I say it can be built, I'll build the first one.  If you provide CAD files, I'll use my ShopBot to make the parts production go more quickly.  If you don't provide CAD files, you need to provide PDF files that are 1:1 scale and cannot be wider than 36". (this is in order for me to have the plans printed on an industrial plotter if I need to)  There is a tool called "PDF995" that will allow you to specify sizes like 36x84 when printing from CAD programs.

If I'm able to construct a Hawker Hurricane IIc based on your plans, not only will I have a nice healthy meal of 100% American Farm raised Hat, I'll send you a free plan set & CD for my cockpit project.

I should remind you that you'll need to provide instructions on how to build the cockpit.  It took 195 pages and over 200 photos to describe how to build mine.  If you can provide a fully constructed, un-skinned model in Inventor 2009 format, I won't need the manual, I 'll be able to work it out from exploding the model.

Good Luck!

g.

machineman9 wrote on May 3^rd, 2009 at 1:22pm:


...as long as it looks like a Hurricane IIc.

g.

machineman9 wrote on May 3^rd, 2009 at 3:33pm:


I think the kids today would refer to your efforts as "EPIC FAIL", but they may have another label for it.

Design something.  Don't do the mental equivalent of blowing your nose on a piece of paper and call that a "design".

This is what a design looks like:



You still have 20 hours or so to go.  Best get on it.

g.

Look, you made a statement about something you could do.  I called you on it and you coudln't do it.  Simple as that.

If you can do what I asked within the next three months, I'll still send you a plan set & the CD for free.

g.

Best laugh I've had in ages - thanks chaps 

And MM9, if you ever fancy a job building simulator cockpits for real, please call me.  I'd get another blast of a laugh turning you away!

With such a great knowledge of 3D parametric modelling and CAD - how come you reverted to pencil and paper for this one eh?

Time to sign off - don't bother replying.