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Apr 24th, 2009 at 5:05am

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Hi: I'm new here and find this website just terrific.  I took several lessons in a Piper J3 on a dirt field on Long Island over 50 years ago but quit when a inexplicable panic attack suddenly came on me one day at 6,000 feet. . I've had a fear of flying ever since even though I have flown around the world commercially on business. Anyway, I am back flying the very same J3 with nary a tremble thanks to FS2004. My question concerns the 2004 Mooney and a dodgy tachometer on the panel. goes to 2600 and stays there no matter what throttle I give it.  Is there a correcting patch or something on the site?  apologize if this Q has already been asked and answered.  Thanks.  Denis H.  
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 7:20am

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Denis, welcome to SimV

The Mooney, like many other aircraft, has a 'constant speed prop'. You'll find an additional engine control, a blue knob labled 'Prop', that controls the governed rpm.

The sim's Learning Center>Key Topics>Controlling the Engine has a good explaination of the function of the constant speed prop in your power management.

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Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 7:39am

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The move from simple, General Aviation Aircraft, fixed prop, fixed landing gear, up to more "Complex" types...Wink..!

As Dave has mentioned, definitely a time to learn all about the intricacies of constant speed props, and retractable landing gear, etc...etc...step by step...Wink.!

Lots of really interesting "stuff" to learn on the way..Wink...!

All adds to the enjoyment of the Sim once you have mastered it!...Wink...!

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Reply #3 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 8:11am

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Paul  & Dave:  Many thanks for your prompt replies to my query.  I'll certainly look into the technical details you mention even though I'm an English Lit graduate.  )

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Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 8:53am

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Didn't somebody dedicate a thread to this topic ?


Oh yeah,, it was me   Embarrassed


http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1212879811/0
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:06am

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Brett_Henderson wrote on Apr 24th, 2009 at 8:53am:
Didn't somebody dedicate a thread to this topic ?


Oh yeah,, it was me   Embarrassed


http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1212879811/0


...nice to see you in the Peace and Serenity of good-old, trusty, FS 2004 for a change, Brett!.. Wink... Wink... Wink...!

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Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:08am

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Thanks !   Smiley    (I'm always lurking about  Wink  )
 
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Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:09am

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Bret: Thanks for the tutorial link. I've bookmarked and will study it later today. This simulation thing is misnamed. It's no "game" as many have described it. Definitely an intellectual challenge. I wish I had known about it years ago.

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Reply #8 - Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:13am

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Feel free to ask questions in that thread  Smiley

I'll keep an eye on it..
 
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Reply #9 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 1:01am

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DenisH wrote on Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:09am:
This simulation thing is misnamed. It's no "game" as many have described it. Definitely an intellectual challenge.

Some of us don't have the intellect to challenge it. Guilty as charged, your Honor...
 

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Reply #10 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 4:03am

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homebrewer wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 1:01am:
DenisH wrote on Apr 24th, 2009 at 9:09am:
This simulation thing is misnamed. It's no "game" as many have described it. Definitely an intellectual challenge.

Some of us don't have the intellect to challenge it. Guilty as charged, your Honor...


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Reply #11 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 7:15am

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I guess I don't get the sarcasm (if that's what the post was).
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Reply #12 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 7:17am

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May be that these posts may themselves become an intellectual challenge! 

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Reply #13 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 7:49am

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DenisH wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 7:15am:
I guess I don't get the sarcasm (if that's what the post was).
Denis


Hello Denis... Smiley...!

No sarcasm intended, I can assure you...Wink...

..after a while in Sinviation, you get to recognise all the various sorts rich Humour which constantly flows through the many Threads, minute by minute...Wink..!

Its one of the many reasons why Simviation is so popular with everyone who visits...Wink...!

.. on rare occasions we also get to learn something useful... Smiley....!

In the meantime we get the chance to have a laugh and a joke with each other...which cheers us up, and brightens up our every day!... Grin...!

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Reply #14 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 8:19am

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Paul: Please excuse my last posts. Rather frustrated because I've landed the Mooney the last few flights with the gear up. As I say, FS is an intellectual challenge! 

Denis

PS  I am new to both flight sim and this room so forgive me if I act like an idiot.
 
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Reply #15 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 8:43am

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DenisH wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 8:19am:
Paul: Please excuse my last posts. Rather frustrated because I've landed the Mooney the last few flights with the gear up. As I say, FS is an intellectual challenge!  

Denis

PS  I am new to both flight sim and this room so forgive me if I act like an idiot.  


No problemo, Den!...Wink...!

We are all here to help if we can, and if we cant you can be sure that we will have a laugh and a joke with each other in these times of financial instability, and tight-fitting trousers...Wink..!

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P.S.  surviving a wheels-up landing is good for the Soul!...trust me... Grin...!
 

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Reply #16 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 9:27am

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Forgiven  Cheesy

(but, keep a little idiocy.. we all do, here  Tongue )


Seriously though.. everyone here knows that I take simming a little more seriously than the average guy. I'm a real pilot; non-current instructor, and aviation enthusiast in general. So I appreciate your approach to it. That landing gear-up aggravates you, means you're about LEARNING from the experience.. not just joy-sticking virtual planes through the virtual sky.

Aside from that thread on constant-speed props.. I've got a 7-part series aimed at learning to use the sim, realistically.

Just click the image that is my signature  Cool

p.s... the only time I get impatient, is with the, "Instant Airline Captains" ...  those guys who are trying to fly jets, before even getting fundementally sound flying small props... Trying fly instrument approaches in 737s before even being able to navigate in a C172  Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #17 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 9:49am

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I was half-joking re the gearless landings but I do find this FS fascinating and, as I mentioned earlier, hardly a "game".  My earlier Q re the tachometer in the Mooney was a dumb question since I would have known the reason had I read ALL the items in the learning center. I have now learned my lesson.  I will definitely  read and study your tutorials on SM -- I found your explanation of the prop clearer than that in the learning center.  While I'm on the subject, is this the place to ask a Q  about flying? In  my first post I mentioned that I had several hours of training in a Piper J3 many years back. Now that I'm back flying the FS Piper I have had problems  landing without ground looping. This happens  even though the landing speed and approach is flawless (I think). I touch down and  Cub veers either right or left. I have experimented with various rudder controls but can't seem to master a  smooth, loopless landing. I'm wondering if the FS version of the Cub has a locking  wheel or something?   I have a new, very sensitive AV8R stick and have tried landing with and without rudder.  I never had problem landing back when I was taking lessons in the real J3.
 
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Are you familiar the 'Realism' settings ? Make sure all the sliders there, are set to the highest realism..  UN-check Auto-rudder, and unlimitted fuel....

Then the important thing. A good set of rudder pedals are needed for accurate, realistic control. Think back to your flying days, and imagine trying to control that Cub if your rudder control was pretty much an all-or-nothing, twisting of the stick..

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Even after more than 1500 hours of real flying.. I have NO tail-wheel experience.. so my advice is "unqualified". However.. the Cub (and the Maule) seem to replicate the differences in landing, non-tricycle airplanes pretty well. The ground-handling might be a little trickier than real-world.. but it's pretty close (I think). I just know I'd have a devil of a time trying to fly ANY FSX airplane sans pedals.. let alone, tail-wheels.
 
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Reply #19 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 10:11am

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Bret: Yes, I have set everything at highest level of realism. No point in easy settings since one will never learn from mistakes. One of the beauties of FS is you can crash into the control tower at JFK and go back and crash into it again!  I plane to get a yoke and petals soon but will wait until my birthday. Maybe my kids will spring for them -- assuming they still have their jobs  next September.  Thanks again for your advice.

Denis

PS I can't find a signature to get your tutorials. I clicked on your name and got your profile, but no tutorials. Can you give me  a link?
 
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Pedals. lol
 
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The big cockpit view at the bottom of my posts.. click anywhere on it..
 
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Reply #22 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 10:26am

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Got it!!! Thanks again.

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Reply #23 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 12:49pm

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If you want to emulate your flying experiences with a Cub, I'm sorry to say you wont be happy trying to capture it with the default Cub......try the link below and download the Aeronca Champ, it's not the same plane but it is a far superior flight model for this type of aircraft, and I'm sure you will enjoy it way more Wink

http://www.simviation.com/fs2004props94.htm

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Reply #24 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 12:57pm

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Rom: Haven't tried downloading yet but will give it a try. Thanks very much.  Denis
 
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Reply #25 - Apr 26th, 2009 at 5:22pm

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DenisH wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 7:17am:
May be that these posts may themselves become an intellectual challenge!  

Fozz said it more politely than I will : I admitted to being a bonehead. I have had FS9 on my computer for four years. I still have no idea about what are the other 99% of its capabilities. I take off, flit about some, try to land, can't get lined up straight, crash hard on the runway or land badly in the grass. It's pretty much an "arcade" type of game for  me. I am no Brett Henderson. I would like to know how to use the game to its full potential but I am always out of time, it seems...
 

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Reply #27 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 11:41am

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DenisH wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 12:57pm:
Rom: Haven't tried downloading yet but will give it a try. Thanks very much.  Denis


Denis
I think I can safely say on behalf of the vast majority of flightsimmers that most of us have all but given up on the default aircraft, because there are so many dramatacally improved models available........please give a whirl to the plane I gave you a link to, it's a good one to start with because the installation is really easy....just click on the 'download file' button and make sure that you pay attention to where you put it......a temporary file, or maybe your desktop.........then go to this location and dbl click on the file and an auto-installation program will open and install the plane properly for you........open the game and load up the new aircraft  Cool trust me you will never look back  Wink
There are countless threads in this forum on recomended aircraft to download, and literally thousands of aircraft, and scenery, and and and and  Shocked to acquire here at the simv download area http://www.simviation.com/simviation/
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As another poster mentioned, the default Cub is known for being a little too twitchy on the ground to be of any fundamental use. I would also highly suggest the previously linked Champ for your beginning FS operations.

Beyond that, when you desire another aircraft, we'll be here, and we'll provide it. Just name your plane, and we'll probably find it somewhere.
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1232323209/0
 

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Reply #29 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 5:18pm

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ROM:  Thanks very much for the guidance.  I did download the aircraft you recommended and  I do know where it is. I have it earmarked (a dirty word these days) and I am reading various tutorials on how to download. My problem is I am a novitiate with FS, downloads and computers generally although I have used a puter as a substitute  typewriter for years (I bought one  when the "E" on my 1934 Underwood kept falling off).  I do have  XP and I understand that it has a download "wizard" which I am cautiously approaching. I've never used it so m

Denisy wife  tells me to be careful or I might erase everything on the puter. I have a question: How do I integrate these add-ons with the MS4000 program? Is it done automatically by the wizard?
Sorry if these Q's are elementary.  I'm gonna give it a shot this evening and I'll let you know how I make out. Once again, thanks for the advice. You guys in here are great ! 

Denis
 
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SAN:  I'll certainly will take you up on your offer. Thanks.  Denis
 
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Reply #31 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 6:19pm

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Denis..you landed AGAIN WITHOUT FEET..     THATS IT CALL THE TOWER NOWWWWWWWW...DenisH wrote on Apr 26th, 2009 at 8:19am:
Paul: Please excuse my last posts. Rather frustrated because I've landed the Mooney the last few flights with the gear up. As I say, FS is an intellectual challenge!  

Denis

PS  I am new to both flight sim and this room so forgive me if I act like an idiot.  

 
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DenisH wrote on Apr 27th, 2009 at 5:18pm:
ROM:  Thanks very much for the guidance.  I did download the aircraft you recommended and  I do know where it is. I have it earmarked (a dirty word these days) and I am reading various tutorials on how to download. My problem is I am a novitiate with FS, downloads and computers generally although I have used a puter as a substitute  typewriter for years (I bought one  when the "E" on my 1934 Underwood kept falling off).  I do have  XP and I understand that it has a download "wizard" which I am cautiously approaching. I've never used it so m

Denisy wife  tells me to be careful or I might erase everything on the puter. I have a question: How do I integrate these add-ons with the MS4000 program? Is it done automatically by the wizard?
Sorry if these Q's are elementary.  I'm gonna give it a shot this evening and I'll let you know how I make out. Once again, thanks for the advice. You guys in here are great !  

Denis



When I said it will auto-install, it basically comes with an "install wizard" so like I said just dbl click on it and keep pressing OK/continue until you reach finish.......thats it  Smiley
I'm not sure about MS4000.......I'm not sure what MS4000 is Huh but I'm quite confident in saying that you need not concern yourself with it (whatever it is) as it relates to fs2004 and for that matter this particular add-on.
As for your wifes concerns.....I remember when I first started on the computer and I was always terrified that I'd do some catastrophic error and the whole thing would explode right in front of my eyes  Shocked .......... In reality, if your doing something really wrong, the computer will ask you if you really want to do it?.........and the more times it asks you, the more seriously you should think about the question  Wink..........and if your using XP then you shouldnt get asked to many questions with this add-on  Smiley
I look forward to hearing your impressions on both the new plane, and the experience of your first download /install






 
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Reply #33 - Apr 27th, 2009 at 10:07pm

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ROM:  Sorry for the typo. I meant FS not MS. I followed your  instructions and successfully downloaded the aircraft to the "My documents" section.  It now appears as a zipped folder, 15,358 KB.  I don't kow where to put it because I can't seem to find a folder dedicated to the FS program itself.  Now I am at a loss as to how to get it onscreen. When I log on to FS4000 I get the following message over the "century of flight" logo: "Requested flight is corrupted or can't be found."  I then get the regular default flights.   I know I am one step away from this but I don't know what the hell step to take!  lol  Any suggestions will be appreciated and excuse this woeful ignorance.   Denis
 
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ROM:  Finally, success in the ongoing saga of downloading the Aeronica! The  problem was, as usual, due to my lack of knowledge re how files are kept. I worked it out finally and now have already flown the plane around Seattle. Low and slow and a far sight easier to land than the Cub.  You might be amused by my initial try to fly the plane. I sat on the runway giving it all throttle and hitting brake release and it wouldn't move. Totally dumbfounded, I couldn't understand why until I noticed that the flight was set for the  float version. lI switched to the wheeled version and  now all is well. lol Once again, thank you and all in here for your patience and assistance.  I am now gonna look for some more prop planes  to download.Was in Germany a few years back and a friend of mine took me for a quick hop in his Stork and I'm gonna see if I can find one. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2009 at 11:06am

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I'm glad to hear you got it going.
Hear is a link to the main download section hear at Simv http://www.simviation.com/simviation/ so set aside AT LEAST a couple of hours  Wink........on a couple of days  Grin and enjoy browsing. at the top of that page there is a search function, you can click on it and type in whatever your looking for and it will bring up all the options, otherwise just open one of the sections and go page by page.
One really good plane you might want to check out is the maule 260 http://www.simviation.com/fs2004props54.htm it's a big 60mb download but is really an amasing plane.
I did a search for your Stork........no joy
 
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There is a french manufactured version of the plane here (Morane Saulinier):
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Tim "Piglet" Conrad has also made a classic German manufactured version for 2004 and FSX available on a few other sites.
 

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One thought distantly  related to FS2004.  A week or so ago the media carried a story about a passenger who successfully landed an airplane (I didn't get what model) after the pilot died in the cockpit. I wonder if that passenger had  any experience in a flight sim? It's an intriquing  question. Anyone in here know?   Denis H
 
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DenisH wrote on Apr 28th, 2009 at 11:26am:
One thought distantly  related to FS2004.  A week or so ago the media carried a story about a passenger who successfully landed an airplane (I didn't get what model) after the pilot died in the cockpit. I wonder if that passenger had  any experience in a flight sim? It's an intriquing  question. Anyone in here know?   Denis H



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ROM & SEAN:  Thanks for the tips. I'm retired and have plenty of time. As I mentioned to a  friend the other day, getting involved in Flight Sim is far more interesting than hunting for nickels in the sand with a metal detector.   Smiley.
 
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ROM & SEAN:  Thanks for the tips. I'm retired and have plenty of time. As I mentioned to a  friend the other day, getting involved in Flight Sim is far more interesting than hunting for nickels in the sand with a metal detector.   Smiley.  


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Is there any other sorts of aircraft your interested in checking out, or is it mostly old taildraggers that you are looking for?
Something else I just thought of that you would probably like is the Alphasim c170 that just got released as freeware
 
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You fellas are gentlemen! As mentioned earlier, I have just started in FS and have just had a few weeks with it so  am a little intimidated at this point about advancing further than the Cessnas, Mooneys and, thanks to you guys, the Avvie C7. Also, I am studying the stuff in learning center and  have yet to get into navigation and radio protocol. I served in the USNavy  some years back but what navigation skills I had then are now pretty much  worthless. So I am a novice on all fronts. Maybe the multi-engines and  jets will be more  attractive when I'm not so dumb about all this. One thing, I am damned glad I  heard about this website. You guys are incredibly helpful courteous and humorous and we newbies appreciate it.

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ROM:  Where can I find the Alphasim you mentioned?  Denis
 
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DenisH wrote on Apr 28th, 2009 at 2:52pm:
ROM:  Where can I find the Alphasim you mentioned?  Denis

Bottom of this page http://www.simviation.com/simviation/?type=item&ID=84&page=7
 
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One little taildragger you might enjoy is the Christen Eagle.  Run your realism sliders to the right and give that a try.  Best handling plane I've found so far.  SimV Fs2004 Props Page 54 by Long Island Classics.
 

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Will do. Thanks for the tip.
 
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Good day, chaps!  Is there a section on Simviation for dumb questions?  I have three: 1. notice that downloads  offerred on various sim sites are for "panels" only. I assume they mean instrument panels and that rather than download a complete  aircraft package, one gets only the instrument panel to fly with?  Is that correct? 2. How can one find C:Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulation 9 on the computer? There's a very good tutorial in here on  Simviation on downloading but one has to first "navigate" to this site. Any advice  would be appreciated. 3. I attempted to download an early version zip file of a Cessna. I was successful except I got everything but the instrument panel even though I used "extract all" when I first dowenloaded. My hat button on the Seitek stick allows a total exploration of the cockpit but the controls aren't , as they say in the movie biz, "practical". Did I do something wrong?  Thanks.
 
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DenisH wrote on May 1st, 2009 at 9:19am:
Good day, chaps!  Is there a section on Simviation for dumb questions?  I have three: 1. notice that downloads  offerred on various sim sites are for "panels" only. I assume they mean instrument panels and that rather than download a complete  aircraft package, one gets only the instrument panel to fly with?  Is that correct? 2. How can one find C:Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulation 9 on the computer? There's a very good tutorial in here on  Simviation on downloading but one has to first "navigate" to this site. Any advice  would be appreciated. 3. I attempted to download an early version zip file of a Cessna. I was successful except I got everything but the instrument panel even though I used "extract all" when I first dowenloaded. My hat button on the Seitek stick allows a total exploration of the cockpit but the controls aren't , as they say in the movie biz, "practical". Did I do something wrong?  Thanks.


In regards to panels.....do you usually fly using the virtual cockpit(VC)? if so, there is usually not much point in bothering with downloads for panels.......

Start with "my computer" then "C drive", then "Program files", "microsoft games", "fs9"

Which cessna?

You can change any buttons/or axis' on your stick and for that matter any of the keyboard buttons in the settings/controls.....just dbl click on whatever assignment you want to change, and then press whatever new button you want it to be controlled with........hope that makes sense? it is really quite easy....just not so easy to explain (in text  Roll Eyes)
 
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DenisH wrote on May 1st, 2009 at 9:19am:
Good day, chaps!  Is there a section on Simviation for dumb questions?  I have three: 1. notice that downloads  offerred on various sim sites are for "panels" only. I assume they mean instrument panels and that rather than download a complete  aircraft package, one gets only the instrument panel to fly with?  Is that correct? 2. How can one find C:Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulation 9 on the computer? There's a very good tutorial in here on  Simviation on downloading but one has to first "navigate" to this site. Any advice  would be appreciated. 3. I attempted to download an early version zip file of a Cessna. I was successful except I got everything but the instrument panel even though I used "extract all" when I first dowenloaded. My hat button on the Seitek stick allows a total exploration of the cockpit but the controls aren't , as they say in the movie biz, "practical". Did I do something wrong?  Thanks.



In answer to your first question - no, you do not "fly" the panel. 

Those "panel only" downloads are panels which can be added to an aircraft which does not have one included in it's package or possibly exchanged for one which you may not like.

Some aircraft packages do not include a dedicated panel and/or may simply alias an existing default panel to it.

With a little experience downloading and installing aircraft what Ijust said will begin to make more sense.
 

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ROM: It's the Alpah, the plane yourecommended in an earlier post. A lot of fun but quite different than the airplanes offered as defaults in HofF.  The panel isn't fixed and you use the hat buttone to scan the panel. Very interesting. I assume you've flown this. As I say, a lot of fun.  And easy to install. I still don't quite know how I did it.  lol  Thanks for the other info.
 
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When I asked you in my last post about using the VC.....on any of your planes press 'S' to cycle through the veiws, many planes have this option, including the Champ you loaded earlier, personally if a plane doesnt have a VC then I dont bother with it.
 
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Thanks, David. Yes, one has to get some experience with all this. The lingo, the technical aspects, etc.  A little overwhelming for an old fart. But I'm enjoying it immensely, nontheless.
 
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Rom: Unless I missed it, that tip about cycling isn't anywhere in the literature I've seen. If you can scan with your hat button, why does the lit mention that you need to fishtail while taxiing?  I'm sure this will all come to me sooner of later. Before I got into FS I bought a guide to FS2004 (by Radcliffe & Mahoor) and it's not mentioned in that. At least, in language I can understand. Once again, getting with the  jargon is one of my problems. I have had a computer since 1983 but  have always used it as a substitute typewriter. My wife handled all the hard stuff. She won't help me with FS because she thinks I shouldn't be playing "games" at my age. Now I am paying the price! lol
 
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I tried to convince my wife that FS isnt a game..........it's a simulator  Cool...........she didnt buy it either   Roll Eyes
virtual cockpit is the only way to go.....in my opinion  Wink
In alot of taildraggers you still need to fishtail to see over the cowling, regardless of being able to pan
 
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Your wife too, eh?  lol Yet another huge "gracias" re the VC. I just took up the Mooney using it for the first time and it is incredible. I also checked the manual I mentioned earlier and there's but a single mention of the VC  and no explanation nor illustration of what it does.  To someone unfamiliar with Flight Sim, the whole thing is "virtual"! So thanks for the guidance.  If you'll forgive A rather feeble pun, I'm learning all this from the ground up.
 
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Did you figure out how to re-map(change) buttons on your joystick?.....for that matter which Saitek stick?
 
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Believe me, these guys know whereof they speak.  Two months ago, I was getting similar advice.  Enough took to where I now ask a lot fewer silly questions - I hope  Smiley.
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ROM:  Yes, after several weeks of trial and error I can program and re-program the joystick. It's Saitek's AV8R and rather flimsily constructed but works very well (a little too sensitiver to a newby). I would spring for another model but I am thinking of ordering a set of pedals and yoke control (also Saitek) shortly.  I will probably need advice  on how to program that. I am already wondering  how virtual cocpit views are controlled by a steering wheel. Anyway, a little too early to get into that. 

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Rereading your post about the stick.  Mine is an X52 (Saitek) also too sensitive.  What really torques me are the fixes suggested by their support people - some fairly effective.  Why isn't this stuff designed in or available as some kind of patch.  By and large, unless you're only flying little guys, you'll be happier with a yoke and rudder pedals are almost essential 'cause the FS9 rudder enable is for feet only.
 

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I use the same AV8R, with CH pedals, it's a good all around aviation joysick. the problem about being to sensitive is more a problem with FS than it is the stick, especially with small singles....the sim seems less touchy and a bit easier to handle in bigger planes.
If I could make a few suggestions about the AV8R.......I have one throttle set to adjust the throttle and the other is set to adjust the prop(going back to the original concept of this thread Roll Eyes) if your flying the mooney all the time, you really should give that a try. also if your using the VC all the time(as I do) I like to have the button below the hat as center veiw, that way you can always reset your veiw easily if your looking around and then you need to get back to forward veiw quickly, then its right there under your thumb  Cool also I like to have trim set-up on one of the toggles, and flaps up and down on another.........just a few ideas for you that I've found to work well for me.
 
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Excellent tip about that front view. Now that you guys have led me to the virtual c, I use it all the time. I have the trigger on brakes, the button below the hat on gear up/down and the other button on landing lights. I have the toggles on flaps and landing lights & another on auto pilot "on". I will reset all these later today.  point about light planes  is right on. I have a devil of a time landing the Alpha, which is a favorite already. I have totally abandoned the Cub even though it was the reason I got into Flight Sim, as I explained in earlier post. I still can't land w/o ground looping. I don't understand why the MS guys passed that on in History of Flight. I am still struggling with downloading but this is due to my ignorance of computers and its language.  I added one pay CD program, "Ground Environment" which while not ideal, does dress up the scenery more than the default offerred  in FS2004.  Any suggestions you may have on airplanes, scenery, technical or any other subject are most welcome.
 
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I dunno. I find the entire concept of FS and simulation generally  mindboggling!!!!
 
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Ground environment is good, if your flying alot around areas you are really familiar with(real world) then "Ultimate terrain" is another good choice to spruce up your FS world, it will correct all your shorelines and place all your roads correctly(good for VFR flying)
My earlier suggestion about the Maule still stands  Wink  also take a look at this little charmer http://www.fs-tutorials.com/en/down_plane_ not a taildragger but a really solid freeware add-on, which brings me to the statement that if you dont mind pulling out your visa card there is a whole new world of payware aircraft that will take your game to a totally new level, check out Carenado http://www.carenado.com/ecommerce/buscador.php3?categoria=20 you might want to look at there Mooney  Wink
 
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DenisH wrote on May 2nd, 2009 at 1:25pm:
I dunno. I find the entire concept of FS and simulation generally  mindboggling!!!!

and you have barely scratched the surface  Shocked
 
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Something new almost every day.  On the groundlooping - if you have unchecked AUTO RUDDER rudder that J3 may even ground loop in the air.  One of the few things, glaringly unreal in FS9, is rudder without pedals.  Try it with AUTO RUDDER checked, lower your aileron and elevator sensitivities to about 2/3 and, as you level out from the glide, feel for the runway with little bits of back on the stick.  Ideally you'll touchdown as the stick hits the stop.  If you were straight when it hit, it'll run straight otherwise you'll have to do a little something with the rudder.
 

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OLDER: Yes, I have rudder unchecked and all settings at most difficult. Do you think a set of pedals will correct this problem? I use the twist function on the Saitek joy stick for rudder control on the J3 and  sometimes -- very sometimes -- I can land the J3 without mishap.  I'm ordering  the Saitek pedal set and yoke this week rather than waiting for my kids to spring for it on my birthday. In other words, I am hooked!!!!
 
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ROM: On your recommendation  I downloaded the Maule -- it was lot of stuff -- and tried without success to get it into FS4000. I gave up and deleted it in frustration. I'll give it another try when I master this download thing so thanks for the tutorial link.  My problem -- as is obvious -- is that I really know very little about computers and almost nothing about flight sim but I am working to correct that.  For instance, my computer will not perform system restore and I have spent hours on the phone with Microsoft and Norton trying to correct the problem. Well, enough of this. Thanks for the advice.   The pay site you mention is Spanish, isn't it? I have seen it.
 
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The idea is to touchdown as close to stalled and on all three points as you can.  If you do this and are straight with the runway, chances are it'll stay straight with very little assistance.  Remember - heels on the floor  Smiley.
 

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ROM: On your recommendation  I downloaded the Maule -- it was lot of stuff -- and tried without success to get it into FS4000. I gave up and deleted it in frustration. I'll give it another try when I master this download thing so thanks for the tutorial link.  My problem -- as is obvious -- is that I really know very little about computers and almost nothing about flight sim but I am working to correct that.  For instance, my computer will not perform system restore and I have spent hours on the phone with Microsoft and Norton trying to correct the problem. Well, enough of this. Thanks for the advice.   The pay site you mention is Spanish, isn't it? I have seen it.  



Denis my apologies about that link...... try this one http://www.fs-tutorials.com/en/down_plane_C150_01.php   and enjoy the amazing little plane it holds  Smiley scroll down about halfway on the page and there are two boxes with text, read the first one about user name and password, and then click on one of the lower links to download the plane.........it seems a little cumbersom but trust me,  it's worth it, this is a really fabulous model for freeware FS9

As for the Maule installation, hopefully this can help http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1080212396
 
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ROM:  Thanks for the tips. Have set aside today to see if I can master some of this. My wife says Flight Sim is worse than the Sunday NFL games.   She says at least pro football has a season that ends!
 
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RON: One massif helping of merci beaucoups for that link to the 150L. It was a snap to download since they provided an installation  wizard (in French). A terrific little airplane which I immediately took up and flew from  Santa Barbara to Oxnard and back. Again, many many thanks for your assistance.  You mentioned you live in Washington? A son (one of five) lives in Ft. Townsend and coaches its h.s. sailing team. Sailing was my thing until back trouble limited me. Here you leave the marina and you're immediately in the channel islands channel, a batch of water that's equal to the English Channel in winter (I've sailed both).  FS flying much more fun and challenging, to boot. .
 
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I beleive that olderndirt is from Washington state, I am a little more North than that on Vancouver Island BC Canada.
If you enjoy flights around Socal there are plenty of scenery upgrades available for that area (Fozzer's specialty Wink)......Did you check out the Carenado Mooney? My day to day single flyer is their C182Q.
 
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...as Rom mentioned.... Smiley....

I have spent the past 10+ years daily "flying" exclusively around the whole of California...North-South...East-West...

...and collecting and installing some truly amazing, Free, add-on scenery from various Sites...

Most of my Cal Airfields are alive with various objects, many courtesy of my own Scenery Designers....LAGO FSE...Abacus' EZ-Scenery Designer, Runway 3, etc...etc...

..and my favourite "runabout"...is my trusty little Cessna 150 Aerobat...(C150 v2)... Kiss...140 Knots with a foot to the floor!...!

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Not sure if you've visited here, www.blueskyscenery.com but it's worth a look.  Some really nice western US sceneries and it's freeware.
 

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Excellent selection there, Older'n... Wink...!

I have many of them From Avsim and Flightsim...and of course, Simviation..Wink...

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One thing I avoid, like the Plague, is "VFR Photographic Scenery", for obvious reasons... Wink...!

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One of my favorite cross countries is SEA - YVR - YYJ and back.  Been on the ground in Victoria several times - beautiful city, as is Vancouver.  How does your payware C182 compare to the default version on FS9?  It's a good instrument platform so I use it as my default 'create a flight' plane, having dropped the three passengers and baggage.  Makes it a little more lively.
 

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The Carenado C182 (or anything by them) is not really comparable at all to the default planes, it took me quite a few years before I broke down and started trying payware aircraft.......I really spend most of my flying in a few different planes, so why not have those few the best they can be, most payware isnt that much $20-$30 and the difference is really.........huge!
Having said that........try this http://www.realairsimulations.com/list_box.php?page=downloads ; it's a great make-over of the default. Visually not much different, but the flight model is.............impressive  Cool
 
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Think I'll give it a try - can't resist free.  Also trying to dream up something credible to tell my bride when I spring for that SF260.
 

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Aaargh, it's on AVSIM.  There goes the rest of the day  Smiley.
 

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Think I'll give it a try - can't resist free.  Also trying to dream up something credible to tell my bride when I spring for that SF260.


Grin Grin Grin Grin good luck with that
your probably best to just intercept the visa bill that month  Wink

I dont have that plane , but a buddy of mine does, and its reeeally nice....in FS9 it's only got a right seat, which I found uncomfortable, but the FSX version you can sit either left or right.
 
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No joy, so far.  Right seat's fine except most of the gauges favor the left.  Makes for lop-sided IFR (vertigo)  Smiley.
 

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Gentlemen: As I tell my wife, buying a plane or a yoke & pedal system for FS is far cheaper than buying a bottle of Haig & Haig  or a new Pontiac, Lord rest its soul. As most of you guys know by this time, I am a rank novice  so I am concentrating learning the basics of this program rather than luxuriating in downloads and purchase of new airplanes. Although I'm deeply grateful for all the suggestions and advice you give me. I'm keeping a file of these recommendations for later use. Right now I still wrestle with  both FS and the computer & its mysteries.
 
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FOZZER  Have you landed on Santa Cruz  in the channel Island group yet? (right off Santa Barbara). A friend who flies over there in the real thing tells me the strip is uphill.
 
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ROM: My parents, who were both Dubliners, retired to Vancouver but passed away shortly after they relocated there. The few times I visited  my mother would take me to "tea" in some quaint hotel that might easily have been brought, stone by stone, from the Cotswalds. There was an Agatha Christy-type at every table scoffing up little rolls with mountains of clotted cream on them.
 
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DenisH wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 6:02am:
FOZZER  Have you landed on Santa Cruz  in the channel Island group yet? (right off Santa Barbara). A friend who flies over there in the real thing tells me the strip is uphill.


Den...

There are two strips on Santa Cruz Island...

One on the coast...SZN.....easy-peasy... Kiss...!

One on the Hill...CA97....Christy Airstrip......take care!... Shocked...!

Regular trip for me... Smiley...!

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This thread started on a faulty, Mooney tachometer... now I think we need to check Fozz's airspeed-indicator..

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Brett_Henderson wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 7:07am:
This thread started on a faulty, Mooney tachometer... now I think we need to check Fozz's airspeed-indicator..

Cheesy


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How did this thread become sooo big Shocked

I looked at it in the board Shocked
 

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Mazza wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 7:58am:
How did this thread become sooo big Shocked

I looked at it in the board Shocked


Hello, Maz....

...its what is referred to as;.... "An active Forum"....Wink...!

Where Folks pop in for a Chat all the time... Kiss...!

The really nice thing about Simviation!..... Smiley...!

...which is why "Things" sometimes get lost along the way...Wink...!

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Fozzer wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 8:18am:
Mazza wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 7:58am:
How did this thread become sooo big Shocked

I looked at it in the board Shocked


Hello, Maz....

...its what is referred to as;.... "An active Forum"....Wink...!

Where Folks pop in for a Chat all the time... Kiss...!

The really nice thing about Simviation!..... Smiley...!

...which is why "Things" sometimes get lost along the way...Wink...!

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Grin Grin

It's almost as big as the 'What song are you listening too?' Thread Grin
 

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Yes. And I'm one of the things that get lost!
 
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FOZZ: I'll watch for you. I can see the islands out my window.  I'm going over today in the  Cessna aerobat.
 
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FOZZ: Since you fly it frequently, I have a Q about the Cessna C150L. I have flaps programmed into the stick but I can't seem to find any control for the flaps on the plane's panel. There's a slot next to the trim wheel that looks like it might be for flaps but it doesn't function. I use flaps while flying it and hear the sound FX but can't see any sign of flaps moving up or down. No lights. Nothing. .Do you haver the same problem? Is this standard or is it a bug?  
 
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The flap indicater on this 150 is up on the left hand door piller (in cars its called an A piller)
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I don't Fozzer uses this particular 150.......... Huh
 
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Romflyer wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 11:26am:
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The flap indicator on this 150 is up on the left hand door pillar (in cars its called an a pillar)
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I don't Fozzer uses this particular 150.......... Huh


No...I don't use that one....(Windows too dark...although there is a fix for that)....Wink..!

I use the little Cessna 150 Aerobat...(C150_V2.zip).....140 knots!

http://www.freewebs.com/generalaviationvirtualairways/fleet.htm

http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARCH1&fsec=0&fname=C150_V2.ZIP

Den. Have a peek around the cockpit, It may be a lever located on the floor?

Look at the designers illustrations of the aircraft cockpit in the .pdf file....it will probably show you where it is?

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004....!

Edit.....Rom got it located!.... Wink...!

...its certainly located in a peculiar place, for a Cessna 150/152!... Shocked....Unless that is just the "Indicator"...and the Lever is actually somewhere else!!
 

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That is the indicator. The control for the elec. flaps is located to the right of the mixture control (half hidden by the right yoke), an up/down momentary toggle.

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The dark windows always bothered me too......if you want the fix I can email it to you, it very easy to do, and it makes a huge difference.
I'm not certain as to the location of the actual switch for those flaps, if you look at my picture there is a switch right around the area that it should be but the right yoke is kinda in the way to actually see if thats it........as for the flap controls being down between the seats......they sound electric not mechanical, but I've flown an old 150.


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Romflyer wrote on May 5th, 2009 at 12:01pm:
The dark windows always bothered me too......if you want the fix I can email it to you, it very easy to do, and it makes a huge difference.
I'm not certain as to the location of the actual switch for those flaps, if you look at my picture there is a switch right around the area that it should be but the right yoke is kinda in the way to actually see if thats it........as for the flap controls being down between the seats......they sound electric not mechanical, but I've flown an old 150.


edit
dave beat me to it Wink


Rom....many years ago, someone gave me the "fix" for those scratched/cloudy windows...(lost it!).... but I don't generally use that 150...

Maybe Den might like it though...?

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ROM: Weird place for it. But I should have spotted it. As Sherlock Holmes said to Watson: "You see but you don't observe".  Thanks for enlightening me.  

PS  You're a little low on your approach in that photo. LOL   (Just being a smartass to cover my initial embarrassment at not spotting the indicator) Grin But probably that's not you flying that plane.
 
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PS  You're a little low on your approach in that photo. LOL   (Just being a smartass to cover my initial embarrassment at not spotting the indicator)  But probably that's not you flying that plane.

I knew someone was gonna poke at me about that  Embarrassed
 
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 You're a little low on your approach in that photo. LOL   (Just being a smartass to cover my initial embarrassment at not spotting the indicator) Grin But probably that's not you flying that plane.


Touch down on the grass, make that first left turnoff then you don't have to roll all the way to the end  Smiley.
 

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Good morning everyone. As usual, have a few Q's I hope you can help with. I tried to download a version of the Piper Cub featured on this site's home page today and, when I tried to install,  got a window message saying the "application couldn't be installed because the AIR file is damaged".  They then suggest I contact the author for a new AIR. I would  do this except that I haven't the vagueist notion  what an AIR is and who its author might be. Second Q is re the Cessna 150. The airspeed guage on my model is unreadable. Very blurred and small and can't be read even with a magnifying glass.  I'm  guessing this is common to all downloaded models and my Q is, is it? Can  it possible be clarified?  Any response will be appreciated.
Off topic, I had a doctor buddy to the house last night and he tried the sim for the very first time.  After crashing the 150 on landing he said the sim provides an excellent cardiovascular workout. Maybe not as good a a 5K run, but good.
 
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DenisH wrote on May 6th, 2009 at 2:02pm:
Good morning everyone. As usual, have a few Q's I hope you can help with. I tried to download a version of the Piper Cub featured on this site's home page today and, when I tried to install,  got a window message saying the "application couldn't be installed because the AIR file is damaged".  They then suggest I contact the author for a new AIR. I would  do this except that I haven't the vagueist notion  what an AIR is and who its author might be.

Hi Denis. I'm guessing that you recently updated/installed the latest Adobe Reader 9. This will also install an application named Adobe AIR which associates itself with all files with the AIR extension. This changes the icon & also the file type from Air File to Installer. While this is annoying it should not affect your FS aircraft in any way. The only way you will get that error message is by double clicking on the AIR files which is completely unnecessary. If you check your other aircraft they will all be the same.

If you don't use Adobe AIR it might be a good idea to uninstall it from Add/Remove programs.
 

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HAGAR  Thank you. Will do right now.   Smiley.
 
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Hagar: I uninstalled Adobe 9 as you suggested but I still get that message. And your guess was correct. I had installed it recently but never use it.
 
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Denis. It's Adobe AIR you need to uninstall. This is a separate application from Adobe Reader 9.

I should have explained that all FS aircraft have AIR files. These define the flight dynamics & are not Auto Installers. They have nothing whatsoever to do with Adobe AIR. The only way you will get that error message is by double-clicking on an FS AIR file. There is absolutely no need to do this unless you wish to modify it. This is best left to the experts. Install the aircraft manually in the usual way & it should work fine.

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Off topic, I had a doctor buddy to the house last night and he tried the sim for the very first time.  After crashing the 150 on landing he said the sim provides an excellent cardiovascular workout. Maybe not as good a a 5K run, but good.


Many-a-time I've gotten up from a sim-session, with a sweat-soaked shirt..  Cheesy

A 1/2-mile visibility, precision approach.. exectuted by the book (following the plate to the letter), is quite a workout  Cool

It's actuallly more difficult than doing it for real..
 
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HAGAR: My error. I didn't see Adobe AIM in my programs -- I don't have it -- so I assumed you meant Adobe 9. I will reinstall it.  Sorry for this confusion.  I am not very literate in computers.

Bret: Yes. My doc pal wasn't kidding. He said it does raise your cardio rate if you approach it  seriously. It  does mine. As I explained  earlier, I had to quit taking lessons  in a Cub when I had an inexplicable panic attack years ago. I have since never been comfortable in commercial planes and have been downright terror-stricken when, for purposes of my work, I had to go up in small planes and choppers.  I wonder if flying sim will help me with this. I'll find out the next time I fly, I guess. It's an interesting theory, though.
 
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Reply #116 - May 7th, 2009 at 11:13am

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Just re-installed Adobe 9 without AIR. Found  a  link on the net.
 
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Reply #117 - May 7th, 2009 at 11:24am

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DenisH wrote on May 7th, 2009 at 10:54am:
HAGAR: My error. I didn't see Adobe AIM in my programs -- I don't have it -- so I assumed you meant Adobe 9. I will reinstall it.  Sorry for this confusion.  I am not very literate in computers.

Bret: Yes. My doc pal wasn't kidding. He said it does raise your cardio rate if you approach it  seriously. It  does mine. As I explained  earlier, I had to quit taking lessons  in a Cub when I had an inexplicable panic attack years ago. I have since never been comfortable in commercial planes and have been downright terror-stricken when, for purposes of my work, I had to go up in small planes and choppers.  I wonder if flying sim will help me with this. I'll find out the next time I fly, I guess. It's an interesting theory, though.


I have always enjoyed "flying" (pretending to fly) in the various Simulators for many, many years.....

.....But I don't take it seriously to the point that it becomes stressful... Cry....

...that's the time to pack it in and take up Fly Fishing instead... Shocked...!

To me its just fun, and a learning experience...and all the time remembering....

.......Its not real.... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

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Reply #118 - May 7th, 2009 at 11:28am

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DenisH wrote on May 7th, 2009 at 11:13am:
Just re-installed Adobe 9 without AIR. Found  a  link on the net.

Fine. Did that change the AIR file icon?
 

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Reply #119 - May 7th, 2009 at 11:59am

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Fozzer wrote on May 7th, 2009 at 11:24am:
DenisH wrote on May 7th, 2009 at 10:54am:
HAGAR: My error. I didn't see Adobe AIM in my programs -- I don't have it -- so I assumed you meant Adobe 9. I will reinstall it.  Sorry for this confusion.  I am not very literate in computers.

Bret: Yes. My doc pal wasn't kidding. He said it does raise your cardio rate if you approach it  seriously. It  does mine. As I explained  earlier, I had to quit taking lessons  in a Cub when I had an inexplicable panic attack years ago. I have since never been comfortable in commercial planes and have been downright terror-stricken when, for purposes of my work, I had to go up in small planes and choppers.  I wonder if flying sim will help me with this. I'll find out the next time I fly, I guess. It's an interesting theory, though.


I have always enjoyed "flying" (pretending to fly) in the various Simulators for many, many years.....

.....But I don't take it seriously to the point that it becomes stressful... Cry....

...that's the time to pack it in and take up Fly Fishing instead... Shocked...!

To me its just fun, and a learning experience...and all the time remembering....

.......Its not real.... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

Paul..G-BPLF...FS 2004...and sitting in my arm-chair!...Wink...!


It's a good kind of stress ... Flying real airplanes is not always fun, either.. I've been going from real cockpit, to simulator-armchair, back and forth; for years now. I can promise you, that taking simulation past the fun, into the stress part, has made me a better, more competent  REAL   pilot. Cool
 
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Reply #120 - May 7th, 2009 at 12:17pm

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DenisH wrote on May 7th, 2009 at 10:54am:
HAGAR: My error. I didn't see Adobe AIM in my programs -- I don't have it -- so I assumed you meant Adobe 9. I will reinstall it.  Sorry for this confusion.  I am not very literate in computers.

I think it's me that confused you. Let me try to clarify it.

If you open the folder of one of the aircraft in your FS2004 you should see something like this. (I've used the default B777_300 as an example.
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If it looks like this you have Adobe AIR installed.
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Note the different AIR file icon. Also the file description is now Installer Package. If you try to run it by double-clicking on it you will get this error message.
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In fact the file is still an FS AIR file, NOT an Installer Package. It is not damaged & the aircraft will still work perfectly well. Uninstalling Adobe AIR should return the file icon to normal.

I suspect you're trying to install the Piper by using the AIR file as an auto-installer. I hope you can see that this will not work & it should be installed manually as described here ---> http://www.simviation.com/acinstall.htm
 

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Reply #121 - May 7th, 2009 at 5:23pm

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DenisH wrote on May 6th, 2009 at 2:02pm:
Second Q is re the Cessna 150. The airspeed guage on my model is unreadable. Very blurred and small and can't be read even with a magnifying glass.  I'm  guessing this is common to all downloaded models and my Q is, is it? Can  it possible be clarified?  Any response will be appreciated.


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One thing about the zoom function in VC mode that I've always found odd is that by default '-' and '=' are called increase selection and decrease selection.........using these default settings makes zooming in and out........very dramatic Roll Eyes what will help you with this is to go into the controls menu and change both "- and =" to "increase slightly" and "decrease slightly" that way you will have much more control over what level of zoom you would like. It's always a trade-off in VC over getting the widest veiw for perspective, and being able to read your gauges, and making this change makes it easier to find that sweet spot  Cool
 
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Reply #122 - May 7th, 2009 at 5:51pm

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Speaking of stress, I downloaded an airplane I can relate to this morning. It was made in Belgrade in 1927 by two Serbs with unpronounceable names and is called "the Daint George". One of its instruments is a hook on the panel from which there hangs a gold pocketwatch. I think you have to wind it up occasionally.
 
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Reply #123 - May 7th, 2009 at 5:55pm

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HAGAR  Yes. That's exactly what happened. Thanks very much for the guidance.  I think it's straightened out now. 

PS  Sorry for typo. The little Belgrade plane is the  "Saint George" Do you guys know it?
 
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Reply #124 - May 7th, 2009 at 6:26pm

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ROM  Have adjusted the zoom per your advice. Thanks for the tip.
 
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Reply #125 - May 16th, 2009 at 2:28pm

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ROM: You mentioned you have a AV8R joystick? Have you had problems with commands? I programmed my sticK several times to have the snap-to-panel on button 4, which u recommended in one post.  It worked for a few flights and then went dead. I tried using toggle #3 and that didn't work at all. I went back to a new profile but my stick absolutely refuses to recognize shift + number 0, which is the snap to panel command. Stick also frequently responds to a command not profiled by me?  think it may be faulty. Do you or anyhone have a number for Seitek in the USA. The one I have no longer is in service.   Incidentally, I use the left shift  + number 0. I tried right shift and that doesn't respond either.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I'm getting a yoke and pedals shortly but still like the  stick since I am fond of tail draggers.
 
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Reply #126 - May 16th, 2009 at 11:49pm

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Welcome to simv dinny
My guess is that you are using the profiler that comes with the stick.....try turning it off and then go into controller options in the game and map out the buttons from there, or if you prefer the profiler then be sure that you keep the selector dial on the same setting as you had it on when you set it up originally, hope that helps
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Reply #127 - May 17th, 2009 at 4:41am

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Rom:  Thanks very much for the advice.
 
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Reply #128 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 10:43am

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ROM: Have you had any trouble with AV8R stick suddenly uninstalling commands? I followed your tip about using the button under  the hat for a snap front view and  it worked for some weeks and then suddenly ceased to work. I have tried reprogramming it into both  old and a new profiles and it absolutely refuses to comply. No more  instant front view. I am going nuts trying to figure this out. The stick now accepts some profile installations but not others. I am trying to find out how to reach Seitek, who has probably the most useless tech support I've ever run across.  I have the  pedals and yoke still in the cartons here and am gathering  courage to unpack and set them up. But meantime, I like the stick and am still learning FS  with taildraggers and  don't want to go to the yoke and pedals just yet. Can you help with this?   Do you have a number for Saitek here in the states? Any fixes online? Anything will help. Thanks.  
 
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Reply #129 - Jul 22nd, 2009 at 1:20am

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I would suggest to leave the profiler turned off, then go into Controls/assignments within the game and set-up all your buttons on the stick from within the game, to change assignments within the game you just DBL left click on the command you want change then press the new button to assign the new key. 
The profiler that comes with the stick is really un-necessary unless you are wanting different key combinations for different planes and things like that........which I dont think what you have in mind Wink
I just went back and re-read your question and perhaps you have changed the rotary mode selector button on the front of the stick which could change the inputs you have programed, so just turn that dial and see if your functions come back .......I would still suggest you leave the profiler off and re-assign within the game....it is easier than using the software......hope that helps.

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even if your not quite ready for the yoke, the pedals will make such a huge impact on the realism of your sim enjoyment, I use CH pedals not Saitek, but I'm pretty sure that all you need to do is plug them in and the main axis' should just automatically work with no........complications, or need to program.......just enjoy them Cool
 
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Reply #130 - Jul 22nd, 2009 at 5:23am

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ROM:  Many thanks for the advice. I haven't ever turned off the control stick and that may be the source of my frustration.  I'll let you know.  Much obliged.
 
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Reply #131 - Jul 22nd, 2009 at 5:39am

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Excuse me, I meant the control, not the stick.
 
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Reply #132 - Jul 23rd, 2009 at 8:21pm

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Denis, did you figure it out?
 
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Reply #133 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 7:22am

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ROM:  I tried  to program  the buttons by using the internal settings and still no luck. I did find a number for Saitek tech support here in the USA and  they said it is probably a defective stick. I am sending it in for either repair or replacement. Thanks again for your help. Incidentally, the USA number for Saitek tech assistance is 619 683 9830.  They're in San Diego.
 
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Reply #134 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:01am

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Well lucky for you you've got a back-up Cool............sounds like just the push you need to open up that shiny new box with the yolk and pedals sitting in it..............everything in life happens for a reason  Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #135 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 11:04am

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Reply #136 - Jul 27th, 2009 at 9:56pm

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Hey Paul:
I have been looking to add some airport scenery and they all say to have rwy12 and ezscenery libraries. I found Rwy12 at avsim but where do i get the ezscenery library.? Is it a freebie??
 
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