Simviation Forum - Passenger lands aircraft

Apr 13^th, 2009 at 10:29am

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Just read that a passenger landed a King Air in Fort Myers Florida after the pilot died. Wonder if he was a flight sim pilot?

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Reply #1 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 10:42am

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He must've had some kind of experience, or at least excellent guiding when he did it.

You'd have to to tackle a King Air Tongue

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Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 10:52am

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The article did say the pilot had a PPL for single engine aircraft, but no experience with a King Air.

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Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 11:50am

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DaveSims wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 10:52am:

The article did say the pilot had a PPL for single engine aircraft, but no experience with a King Air.

As long as both engines were running, he shouldn't have had too much difficulty then.

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Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:33pm

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C wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 11:50am:

DaveSims wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 10:52am:

The article did say the pilot had a PPL for single engine aircraft, but no experience with a King Air.

As long as both engines were running, he shouldn't have had too much difficulty then.

I would just tell ATC, I'm a single engine pilot, so I'll just shut one down and use one engine...right? Wink

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Reply #5 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:39pm

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DaveSims wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:33pm:

C wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 11:50am:

DaveSims wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 10:52am:

The article did say the pilot had a PPL for single engine aircraft, but no experience with a King Air.

As long as both engines were running, he shouldn't have had too much difficulty then.

I would just tell ATC, I'm a single engine pilot, so I'll just shut one down and use one engine...right? Wink

If he was slightly sadistic, yes. Wink

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Reply #6 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:52pm

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Here's a link to the article,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/passenger_lands_plane

I halfway expected it to say, "Well, I've flown this plane in FS over 100 times before!" Grin

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Reply #7 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 4:38pm

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Ravang wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:52pm:

Here's a link to the article,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/passenger_lands_plane

I halfway expected it to say, "Well, I've flown this plane in FS over 100 times before!" Grin

You know what's interesting about that idea ? The main problem facing a PPL pilot here, would be dealing with the turbine lag. Assuming he's a fundementally sound pilot.. nailing speeds and flying a survivable (albeit it ugly), approach wouldn't be that difficult.. and flying turbines AND piston planes in MSFS, would indeed have given him at least an idea of the lag. Just having the ATC tell hime to compensate for it is one thing.. MSFS experience would definately help.. Cool

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Reply #8 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 4:48pm

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Brett_Henderson wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 4:38pm:

Ravang wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:52pm:

Here's a link to the article,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/passenger_lands_plane

I halfway expected it to say, "Well, I've flown this plane in FS over 100 times before!" Grin

You know what's interesting about that idea ? The main problem facing a PPL pilot here, would be dealing with the turbine lag. Assuming he's a fundementally sound pilot.. nailing speeds and flying a survivable (albeit it ugly), approach wouldn't be that difficult.. and flying turbines AND piston planes in MSFS, would indeed have given him at least an idea of the lag. Just having the ATC tell hime to compensate for it is one thing.. MSFS experience would definately help.. Cool

I doubt that'd be much of a problem at all as long as they sensile handled the throttles as they would a piston single. I'd be more worried about him overtorquing the engines (as I suspect they'd be completely unaware of it), a major drawback of the King Air and its archaic engine controls compared to more modern single lever turboprops.

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Reply #9 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 5:22pm

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After 10+ Years of regularly Sim-flying Piston Props, Twins and Singles, it took me AGES to get used to the slow wind-up, and wind down, of PT-6 Turbine engines, (King Air etc) when taxiing, taking off, and landing...and STOPPING!.... Shocked

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It takes a lot of preparation to obtain, and maintain, the correct speeds!

A familiarity with the contents of the Aircraft Owners Manual is vital...!

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Reply #10 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 5:40pm

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Wow, that must feel terrible, being midair and your pilot suddenly drops dead.. I would be scared *beep*less.

Imagine what would happened if noone on board could steer the aircraft.. Embarrassed

Also, I wonder why the pilot just died? Some sort of sickness?

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Reply #11 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 5:40pm

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Ravang wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 12:52pm:

Here's a link to the article,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/passenger_lands_plane

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Reply #12 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 5:59pm

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The one thing I constantly have to remind myself...

...the flimsy Nose-Wheel is for Taxiing only....

...NOT for landing on!... Shocked

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I takes a lot of practice, sim and real, to land on the Main wheels only!

A heavy landing on the Nose-Wheel will collapse it, with dire consequences... Shocked

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Not easy, in a real-life, emergency situation!

...they did well...10/10... Smiley

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Reply #13 - Apr 13^th, 2009 at 11:43pm

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FlyingPerson wrote on Apr 13^th, 2009 at 5:40pm:

Also, I wonder why the pilot just died? Some sort of sickness?

I heard on an MSNBC video that it was a heart attack.

Also wouldn't there be footage of the landing? I mean they knew before it was gunna land I wonder how come it wasn't taken on tape. Huh

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