Simviation Forum - Hamilton loses Aussie 3rd place!

Reply #15 - Apr 4^th, 2009 at 4:36am

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 2:16am:

The madness continues. As long as the fia is insane i wonder if an appeal could be made to penalise massa for running into Bourdais last year at Fuji?

You can include Barichello for causing that massive crash at the start last week as well lol.

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Reply #16 - Apr 4^th, 2009 at 9:04pm

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Ya know, screw F1! Go Brawn!

Tomarrow is St Pete for Indycars, and Rahal is on pole! I enjoy rooting for that guy!

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Reply #17 - Apr 6^th, 2009 at 11:58am

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Craig. wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 4:36am:

The Ruptured Duck wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 2:16am:

The madness continues. As long as the fia is insane i wonder if an appeal could be made to penalise massa for running into Bourdais last year at Fuji?

You can include Barichello for causing that massive crash at the start last week as well lol.

Ah, but wasn't it later noticed that Rubens whilst looking the guilty party, was actually tagged from behind himself by the increasing Piquet Jr-esque Kovalinen. (not to mention he had nowhere to go as Webber turned in on him).

With McLaren's season so far, I think HK might be rivalling Piquet Jr for first out of a job this season. Races 2. Laps completed? Nil. Drove into the back of Barrichello in Melbourne, and lost control off line on lap 1 this weekend.

Poor.

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Reply #18 - Apr 6^th, 2009 at 4:34pm

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C wrote on Apr 6^th, 2009 at 11:58am:

Craig. wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 4:36am:

The Ruptured Duck wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 2:16am:

The madness continues. As long as the fia is insane i wonder if an appeal could be made to penalise massa for running into Bourdais last year at Fuji?

You can include Barichello for causing that massive crash at the start last week as well lol.

Ah, but wasn't it later noticed that Rubens whilst looking the guilty party, was actually tagged from behind himself by the increasing Piquet Jr-esque Kovalinen. (not to mention he had nowhere to go as Webber turned in on him).

With McLaren's season so far, I think HK might be rivalling Piquet Jr for first out of a job this season. Races 2. Laps completed? Nil. Drove into the back of Barrichello in Melbourne, and lost control off line on lap 1 this weekend.

Poor.

kinda sounds like the start to massas season last year. hmmmmm.......

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Reply #19 - Apr 6^th, 2009 at 4:54pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Apr 6^th, 2009 at 4:34pm:

C wrote on Apr 6^th, 2009 at 11:58am:

Craig. wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 4:36am:

The Ruptured Duck wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 2:16am:

The madness continues. As long as the fia is insane i wonder if an appeal could be made to penalise massa for running into Bourdais last year at Fuji?

You can include Barichello for causing that massive crash at the start last week as well lol.

Ah, but wasn't it later noticed that Rubens whilst looking the guilty party, was actually tagged from behind himself by the increasing Piquet Jr-esque Kovalinen. (not to mention he had nowhere to go as Webber turned in on him).

With McLaren's season so far, I think HK might be rivalling Piquet Jr for first out of a job this season. Races 2. Laps completed? Nil. Drove into the back of Barrichello in Melbourne, and lost control off line on lap 1 this weekend.

Poor.

kinda sounds like the start to massas season last year. hmmmmm.......

Massa completed 57 laps in the process though. Wink

Heikki? None. Not what McLaren need when at the moment they probably need all the running and data they can get!

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Reply #20 - Apr 6^th, 2009 at 6:29pm

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Thing is if he can just get his race tactics sorted he is clearly faster in the car than Hamilton at the moment.
And Massa is having Massa's start to 2008 again. 2 races no points. Roll Eyes

Only now he is called "Felipe baby" Grin

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Reply #21 - Apr 7^th, 2009 at 11:44am

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Craig. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2009 at 6:29pm:

Thing is if he can just get his race tactics sorted he is clearly faster in the car than Hamilton at the moment.

He can't seem to master the race bit though really. He hasn't kept his head for either first lap yet! Grin

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Reply #22 - Apr 8^th, 2009 at 12:15pm

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full fia statement. could be bye bye Mclaren if true. Idiots.
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"Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been invited to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, to answer charges that, in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, it

- on 29 March, 2009, told the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix that no instructions were given to Hamilton in Car No. 1 to allow Trulli in Car no. 9 to pass when both cars were behind the safety car, knowing this statement to be untrue;

- procured its driver Hamilton the current World Champion, to support and confirm this untrue statement to the stewards;

- although knowing that as a direct result of its untrue statement to the stewards, another driver and a rival team had been unfairly penalised, made no attempt to rectify the situation either by contacting the FIA or otherwise;

- on 2 April, 2009, at a second hearing before the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix, (meeting in Malaysia) made no attempt to correct the untrue statement of 29 March but, on the contrary, continued to maintain that the statement was true, despite being allowed to listen to a recording of the team instructing Hamilton to let Trulli past and despite being given more than one opportunity to correct its false statement;

- on 2 April, 2009, at the second stewards' hearing, procured its driver Hamilton to continue to assert the truth of the false statement given to the stewards on 29 March, while knowing that what he was saying to the stewards was not true."

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Reply #23 - Apr 9^th, 2009 at 11:18am

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Craig. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 12:15pm:

full fia statement. could be bye bye Mclaren if true. Idiots.

Do you really think Bernie will let that happen Grin

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Reply #24 - Apr 9^th, 2009 at 11:22am

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expat wrote on Apr 9^th, 2009 at 11:18am:

Craig. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 12:15pm:

full fia statement. could be bye bye Mclaren if true. Idiots.

Do you really think Bernie will let that happen Grin

Matt

Bernies already come out and said they are facing possible suspension. I doubt he really cares right now. Brawn Gp are far easier to market to far more people. The minnows who come in a destroy the big teams. Far easier than one guy and a team who cant seem to stop lying and cheating. Look where it got him with ferrari. Wink

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Reply #25 - Apr 9^th, 2009 at 4:43pm

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Craig. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2009 at 11:22am:

expat wrote on Apr 9^th, 2009 at 11:18am:

Craig. wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 12:15pm:

full fia statement. could be bye bye Mclaren if true. Idiots.

Do you really think Bernie will let that happen Grin

Matt

Bernies already come out and said they are facing possible suspension. I doubt he really cares right now. Brawn Gp are far easier to market to far more people. The minnows who come in a destroy the big teams. Far easier than one guy and a team who cant seem to stop lying and cheating. Look where it got him with ferrari. Wink

Could be a great start to the season, McLaren kicked out and the FIA demoting the top three teams on the leader board due to illegal aerodynamics Huh

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Reply #26 - Apr 9^th, 2009 at 5:18pm

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they wont be demoted. It'll be a future thing not a retrospective penalty. Or thats what I've been reading. See ferrari's floor and renaults mass damper the past few years. Something tells me even without the diffuser Brawns got a lot in the bag over everyone else.

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Reply #27 - Apr 10^th, 2009 at 4:06am

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Craig. wrote on Apr 9^th, 2009 at 5:18pm:

even without the diffuser Brawns got a lot in the bag over everyone else.

Yes you are right. Even with the diffuser, looking at the released fuel loads, Brawn were running with more that the rest. Take the time advantage off for the aero's and they were still faster with a heavier car. I am now just waiting for the Jenson backlash because he is not French or German Grin

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Reply #28 - Apr 29^th, 2009 at 7:02am

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Mclaren receive 3 race suspended ban for the liegate scandle. Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - Apr 30^th, 2009 at 5:28pm

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Craig. wrote on Apr 29^th, 2009 at 7:02am:

Mclaren receive 3 race suspended ban for the liegate scandle. Roll Eyes

Does this mean they are banned for 3 races? On Autosport this morning Hamilton was talking like they were going tobe in spain.

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