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Review; VRinsight M Panel (Read 5878 times)
Mar 26th, 2009 at 7:33pm

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I have now spent a couple of hours using it. The first thing that I noticed was each time I went to push a button with one hand I was holding onto the M Panel with the other. Completely unnecessary and I had to force myself not to do it. I have been so used to computer add ons that have no substance to them when they are in the hand. The M Panel is all steel and weighs accordingly, it also has four very good rubber feet. There is enough weight and friction for it to sit on a desk or on top of a yoke without it moving a millimeter when used. The second thing that I noticed was build quality. As I said, for me it is better than GoFlight. I have always had the feeling that GoFlight was designed in the 70's and production had remained in the 80's. For example GoFlight uses LED displays for number and letter indication, VRinsight us LCD, a completely different feel to it. The third thing I noticed was how totally rubbish the instruction manual was. This was a surprise because I fully expected to tear my hair out trying to set it up, not trying to find out how it worked, but that was not the case. It comes with a DVD that is self starting and very confusing, giving you several things that could/should/if you want to be done. It took a complete folder by folder search of the DVD to find the user manual (turned out to be worse than useless too) The start of it is OK. Install the drivers, install the USB plug in, connect the M Panel, start the interface program, start FSX, click on aircraft load in the interface program and away you go. It all lit up and acted as the first part of the instructions said it would. So I set up a flight and tried it out. This is where VRinsight let themselves down. Up to this point it was all simple and very easy. The first part of the user manual dealt with the radio mode. All very easy to follow and it worked first time out. The second part was about MPC heading, speed, alt etc. Now this took a bit of working out. One part of the manual is completely wrong in telling you how to do things. Only because I do not accept defeat that I persevered and found the error was in the manual and not in the panel that it did not get packed up ready to be returned as non functioning. The third part of the user manual covers the the autopilot. Well the pictures are very nice and in full colour, but that is about it. I got the feeling that the author of the manual got bored and decided that a couple of pictures would do. Again, it was trial and error to work it all out. Once that was clear, it was a quick IFR flight in the default 737-800. All the inputs are easy and clear, though it does take a few goes to get the switching for each level, autopilot, MCP and radios into you head. Although the same switching is used, it not the same sequence in each level but not having a clear manual was the main problem here. All in all entering Heading, alt, speed, VS, squawk and frequencies was a real joy in comparison to holding the mouse over a knob in the virtual cockpit and click, click, click etc etc. The M Panel also has switches for gear and flaps and although not shaped as you would expect (just toggle switches) they are substantial in feel and response. They give a solid click and feel like they will last a long time. The M Panel also has the ability to control trim too, but I have one of the rocker switches on my Siatek yoke programmed for that so I did not bother to use it. All in all I am very pleased with my purchase. At €129 I feel it should cost more. One of the ways that it is probably helped is with the packaging, no fancy box with lots of FSX virtual cockpit shots of long lists of what the M Panel can do, just a plain black box with VRinsight written on it. I just wish other manufactures would try it, it would save a fortune, after all once we get home we throw it away!
One last thing to say apart from the crap user manual, it worked right out of the box. No programming, no set up, no hunt the internet for an obscure driver that Windows needs. Also it did not crash, freeze or cause FSX to crash at all. No thinking twice before a function decided to work, it was on the money (except the user manual, did I mention it is absolutely rubbish) every press. There was also no lag or -+ errors on the virtual cockpit displays. I would give this little gadget a 9 out of 10 (you can probably guess where the lost the one point went)

Matt

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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2009 at 7:49pm

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Expat,

Thanks for the first real review on simpit-type hardware (close enough) in this forum section.  Nice pictures of it too.

By the way........ what did you think of the instruction manual?   Wink


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Reply #2 - Mar 30th, 2009 at 12:11am

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Thanks for the review. I asked this for my birthday which is next sunday so if I get it im going to be really pleased. Im pretty excited, I really want it. I hate using the mouse and it seems so much better than the Saitek Pro Flight Module thing.

Thanks Cool
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 30th, 2009 at 3:34am

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tcco94 wrote on Mar 30th, 2009 at 12:11am:
Thanks for the review. I asked this for my birthday which is next sunday so if I get it im going to be really pleased. Im pretty excited, I really want it. I hate using the mouse and it seems so much better than the Saitek Pro Flight Module thing.

Thanks Cool



I hope you get one, but please be warned, it's the manual not the panel that causes you to pull your hair out Cry Cry

Matt

PS If the birthday fairy is good to you, any problems that stump you due to this, you can always PM me, I may have already been there Undecided
 

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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2009 at 6:58pm

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Will it work with FS9?
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 1st, 2009 at 7:22am

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scalper_old wrote on Mar 31st, 2009 at 6:58pm:
Will it work with FS9?


FSX and 2004.

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Reply #6 - Apr 7th, 2009 at 2:54am

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I got the Saitek control panel instead although I might still get the M panel later ill make sure to contact you if I get it and have any problems. Wink

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Reply #7 - May 31st, 2009 at 3:32pm

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hey, i am new around here but i am already impressed with the passion and commitment so many people have for flight sim lol. i would like to thank you for giving us a great review of this product and really the only decent review i have seen of it.

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Reply #8 - May 31st, 2009 at 5:11pm

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Thanks Philip. Check your PM in box.

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Reply #9 - Jun 2nd, 2009 at 11:44am

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Plodgeface,

Hi and welcome to both SimV and the Homebuild Cockpits forum section.

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Reply #10 - Mar 13th, 2010 at 1:03pm

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My one its on his way, i look a kid on a candy shop.I just hope i have no problems with it.It must be wonderfulllll.
 
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Reply #11 - Mar 13th, 2010 at 6:30pm

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Nice review, so apart from the manual stress it was all very good? Cool.  Wink
Not really a fault of yours, but could you format the review; on the forum it's a harder to read when it's all bunched together.  Smiley
 

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