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F1 predictions 2009: Melbourne (Read 2672 times)
Mar 23
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, 2009 at 5:22pm
CD.
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It's BAACK!!
You all know the score, give your top 3 for this weekends first race of the new season.
Who's going to be the first to predict?
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I'll go for the kill, and probably fail hilariously, with my three out by lap 4, or if I'm lucky, the first pit stops...
Here goes - none of this namby-pamby waiting for Friday practice!
1. Button. Yes, Jenson Button
2. Kubica
3. Raikonnen.
All carefully considered choices. Carefully considered for at least 20 seconds!
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sir you have my respect. A brave man indeed
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sir you have my respect. A brave man indeed
William Hill now have Button 3/1 favourite - covering their backs against the occasional punter if I've ever seen it!
Nakajima or Rosberg could be good outside bets at 100/1 and 50/1.
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well I dont blame them but after the last tests where Renault matched and beat BGP and williams as well, I think things are going to be a little more complicated than the sudden speed of bgp suggests.
I'm not going to bet against Ferrari/ BMW or Mclaren just yet.
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I think I will wait for some practice times first. There is way too much "new" this year to even come close to Charlie's
madness
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, though if Brawn is as good as they say it is..........
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expat wrote
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Charlie's
madness
bravery
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Please, I prefer lunacy!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2009/03/classic_australian_gp_the_winn.h...
Fantastic features I believe for the rest of the season.
the 1994 and 1986 aussie gp's
its also on the bbc red button under sports section. currently running the 94 australian gp, most of the race is being shown.
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Craig. wrote
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its also on the bbc red button under sports section. currently running the 94 australian gp, most of the race is being shown.
Great, just what I've always wanted to see. The bleedin' German CHEAT taking out our Damon.
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Mar 24
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Here goes....
1: Alonso
2: Trulli
3: Button
Edited 26/3/09 1844BST.
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I'll take bets on how many cars retire in the first lap: 6
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
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I'll take bets on how many cars retire in the first lap: 6
Followed by how many cars TASER their pit crews at the first round of stops
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
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I'll take bets on how many cars retire in the first lap: 6
How many on the first corner?
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C wrote
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
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I'll take bets on how many cars retire in the first lap: 6
How many on the first corner?
Well Massa, if his run of form in australia carries.
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C wrote
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
on Mar 24
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I'll take bets on how many cars retire in the first lap: 6
How many on the first corner?
Um, probably somewhere in the vicinity of 6
Heck if it rains, it could resemble something like CART at Surfers Paradise 2002 when nearly all of the field (besides the top 3 or 4) were involved
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Well Here it goes.... A mix of checking last years results, the news on testing and a bit of gut feeling.... now let's hope Brawns car is legal
1. Barichello*
2. Massa*
3. Rosberg*
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I'm not going to stick my neck out until Friday .... hopefully by then we'll know if the diffuser on the BGP cars is legal.
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I'm not going to stick my neck out until Friday .... hopefully by then we'll know if the diffuser on the BGP cars is legal.
That is a point, if we make a choice and subsequently the car is illegal, do we get another go??
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That is a point, if we make a choice and subsequently the car is illegal, do we get another go??
Matt
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the diffuser thing wont come into play. Max has already said if it is banned then likely it wont be banned untill the european races start. Barring a complete U-turn, that wont effect the race results this weekend.
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Craig. wrote
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the diffuser thing wont come into play. Max has already said if it is banned then likely it wont be banned untill the european races start. Barring a complete U-turn, that wont effect the race results this weekend.
But we all know what Max says ...... and what Max actually does are, nine times out of ten, two completely different things.
It'll only take Ferrari to complain and everything will go out of the window and the teams with the "dubious" diffuser" will be starting from the back of the grid.
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Ferrari wont need to complain BMW were at Whitings door with a letter of protest as soon as the FIA inspections were completed.
This is no different to the Mass damper froma few years back and Ferrari's moving floor.
All perfectly with the wording of the rules, but deemed against the spirit of competition and banned anyway. I would imagine the exact same thing happens here. Or by China everyone will be running them.
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nevermind thanks to useless lawyers at BMW. Ferrari red bull and Renault had to lodge a protest as bmw's was rejected on a technicality.
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nevermind thanks to useless lawyers at BMW. Ferrari red bull and Renault had to lodge a protest as bmw's was rejected on a technicality.
Well the design is legal for the moment. Guess it is easier to let them race and take the points off anyone who scores than have a grid with only 14 cars. So will it end up as catch up for the rest or mark down before the next GP?
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I dont think the diffusors will make that much of a differance to be honest. Toyota and Williams are on testing paper slower than Ferrari, and several teams believe BGP are only 2 tenths up on Ferrari which suggests they have just got the whole car right rather than one piece of the bodywork being a huge factor.
I can guarentee the others teams have now ramped up developement of their own diffusors and we'll likely see most have these designs ready soon.
If it fails through the appeals court then teams wont protest again as its still one of the few areas that they can make gains no matter how small.
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Well the diffusers are legal for this race and possibly Malaysia next weekend. On the basis of the practice sessions I'm going.
Barrichello
Rosberg
Massa
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With the new aero rules, for this first race, I have to "make like a sheep" and follow the rest, especially looking at the practice times
Barrichello
Rosberg
Trulli
That is my stab in the dark
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Mmm, I'm happy with mine. Kubica was a little disappointing, but that can't be helped.
For some reason I forgot about watching it live last night!
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Not having watched the second practice Its hard to say who was doing what. But from the 1st I'm going to say.
Kimi
Rubens
Nico.
Practice being replayed on red button in full.
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Barrichello
Trulli
Rosberg
Massa crashes into everything in sight, Kimi gets bored, pulls over and hits the bar, and Hamilton finds the car is faster when he gets out and pushes
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Kimi
Rubens
Nico
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Massa crashes into everything in sight, Kimi gets bored, pulls over and hits the bar, and Hamilton finds the car is faster when he gets out and pushes
And Taki Inoue come out of retirement and takes the chequered flag
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here we go....maybe entering the first race might help me edge past craig this year
Rosberg
Barichello
Hamilton (there's always hope
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Maybe I'll have to switch my token british racer to Button this season....
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Gonna go for:
1) Button
2) Rosberg
3) Massa
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Qualifying really will be key.
If Williams/ Toyota do have the single lap pace then thats their best chance, neither of those teams werre close to Ferrari and brawn gp on long runs. Its still BGP with an advantage, but looking at the long run times, its only about 2 tenths over ferrari.
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... And Ross Brawn is overcome with emotion
To quote Steve Matchett
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What a session!
Interesting interview with Richard Branson afterwards - I suspect over the next months or years we'll see just how much input he's had in the resurrection of the ex-Honda outfit. Reading a BBC article it seems that officially the car will now be known as the "Virgin BGP001" - although I was surprised they didn't mention it during qualifying - maybe they'll wait till the next GP due to the timing captions etc.
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I can see another 2004 on the cards but it'll be good to see Brawn back in the winning routine. He's done so much to get that team to the point of where they are.
BBC's coverage. Not bad, Eddie Jordan might need some help, he was so far up Bransons backside it must have been hard for him to breathe up there. Humphries is doing okay, and DC needs to relax a little.
Martin saved the commentary without a doubt, Legard is awful, he is trying to bring the radio style to tv and it just doesn't work.
Toyota are the first victims of the reg's and have been DQ'd from quali for extreme flexing in the rear wing.
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A new rule this year that I was not aware of, the FIA release the fuel loads after qualifying. It would seem that the rear wing controversy is pretty much thrown out by this.
Starting fuel
, shows that Felipe Massa has only 18 laps of fuel in his car and yet he was 0.8s off Button who has 22 laps of fuel (Barrichello has 23) giving him a 0.3s of a weight disadvantage and then a 0.3 second supposed advantage due to the rear wing. So his fuel canceled out the wing and the car was still way faster. Or as usual I am I seeing things in a too simplistic non lawyer type view?
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Its gonna be nuts with the Toyotas rocketing towards the front
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Martin Brundell, "Those front wings are so ugly they need brown paper bags over them"
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wow what a race! Crazy crash between Kubica and Vettel, Piquet once again shows why he shouldn't be driving, Brawn looks almost bulletproof until RBR gets a new diffuser, and WTF Ferrari?
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If only Hamilton had got up to 3rd.....
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If only Hamilton had got up to 3rd.....
.mic
He still might... Trulli was showing as 4th during the safety car period, and therefore shouldn't have overtaken Hamilton. Although some are saying that Hamilton actually passed Trulli under SC conditions and let Trulli back through to avoid a penalty...
There's always something..
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wow what a race! Crazy crash between Kubica and Vettel, Piquet once again shows why he shouldn't be driving, Brawn looks almost bulletproof until RBR gets a new diffuser, and WTF Ferrari?
I was caught between a rock and a hard place. 3 laps to go, and I'd predicted Kubica second - with him in second I could touch the 20 pointer - but if he overtook Vettel would he then catch Button?
In the end I relented. About 5 second before the event one exclaimed (in a muffled tone),
"TAKE EACH OTHER OUT!"
As Kubica and Vettel had their little meeting, my wish was fulfilled.
I'll happily sacrifice the points for that.
As an aside, hopefully penalties on the way for the two donkeys of the day, Messrs Kovaleinen and Vettel. Is there any point driving nearly a whole lap with a wheel detached from your car? No. Even dafter was Vettel's naive thinking that he'd get away with it and be classified if he kept going. We noticed sunshine, so go read the rulebook.
Good race, great start to the season, and IMO far more satisfying than Brazil!
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If only Hamilton had got up to 3rd.....
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74053
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Yippee....20 points...and 2 Brits on the podium!
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excellent race and a good result. Its more my relief to come away with 10 points from that lol.
The only sad thing is the result has no official place for at least 3 weeks. Thats 1st through 4th all under appeal.
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Missed the point made about Nelson Jr. Another year for Fernando at Renault without the back up of a team mate - unless of course Fernando has a clause to say his team mate has to be utterly uncompetitive.
As an aside, some light relief, courtesy of Loic Bigois, BGP's head of aerodynamics, CV, as shown on the BGP website:
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In all fairness to Nelsino his brakes went under the safety car and he knew it. He then decided to just go for it anyway, the arrival for turn 1 is 180mph roughly. That takes balls to go for it with no brakes lol.
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Craig. wrote
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In all fairness to Nelsino his brakes went under the safety car and he knew it. He then decided to just go for it anyway, the arrival for turn 1 is 180mph roughly. That takes balls to go for it with no brakes lol.
What about the rest of his non-race beforehand? His accident could have happened to anyone.
Now RBR have been fined for telling Vettel to carry on driving, I waiting with anticipation for either the fine or penalty for Kovi and/McLaren. You penalise one team/driver for driving with a wheel hanging off, you ought to penalise the other too.
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There is nothing to say you can't drive back to the pits so the teams can attempt to repair the car, the rule is you are not allowed to complete the lap your car is damaged on. As long as the recovering car proceeds to the pit lane in a safe manner and remains off the racing line/ obvserves the blue flags, there is nothing to stop them carrying on back to pitlane.
Vettels crime was clearly to carry on when it was clear that under normal racing conditions the car wouldn't have been able to carry on at a safe speed, just because the SC is out the rules dont change to allow the guys on 3 wheels to carry on. (well technically Red Bulls)
It was a race of cock-ups on many teams parts, and it gave us a great race. From Ferrari not even knowing how many pitstops they were going to have each driver on. To Fisi's wonderful attempt at pitting the car through his mechanics rather than round them, to a safety car that was suspiciously delayed in its deployment till after Jenson had completed his stop despite the rules of formation no longer applying. Then to add to the fun you get a a pole and a german once again fighting over a small space of land and neither of them winning.
and what could clearly be a farce in the sense of the tyre choices. (next week its the hard and the softs, and since malaysia eats up tyres, expect 3 laps out of the softs before pitting will be nessicary.) I think this season could be a very good if slightly comical one
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Never mind about hanging off, what about Kubica and the wheels coming off. I was under the impression that during a heavy crash and as crashes go, it was a glancing blow that the wheels had to stay attached to the car via safety cords??
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Craig. wrote
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There is nothing to say you can't drive back to the pits so the teams can attempt to repair the car, the rule is you are not allowed to complete the lap your car is damaged on.
Quite, but even in Kovi's case it was blatently obvious that he was beyond (sensible) repair, and wasn't really at a safe speed. I just think it was daft - how stupid would they have looked if it'd completely failed half way back to the pits (considering it happened on the first or second corner).
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Craig. wrote
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to a safety car that was suspiciously delayed in its deployment till after Jenson had completed his stop despite the rules of formation no longer applying.
That was a little odd - I didn't understand why it wasn't ready to pick up Jenson at the end of the pit lane, or Vettel should he overtake the BGP in the pits. Either way, it put JB at a slight disadvantage. Judging by the SC at the time, even he wasn't quite sure what was going on.
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Fantastic race
Sadly I didn't get any predictions in on time, would've guessed Button for 1st but would've but Hamilton at the back of the field
Looks like this could be a great season, but it'll still be hard to beat Brazil last year.
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One thing I would say is, the british media will now start riding Buttons jockstrap for all its worth again, Personally if I was Jeson I would tell them to go walk off a cliff after the way they have ignored him for the last 3 seasons.
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One thing I would say is, the british media will now start riding Buttons jockstrap for all its worth again, Personally if I was Jeson I would tell them to go walk off a cliff after the way they have ignored him for the last 3 seasons.
Is he British? I thought after DC retired there was only Lewis left.
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Craig. wrote
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One thing I would say is, the british media will now start riding Buttons jockstrap for all its worth again, Personally if I was Jeson I would tell them to go walk off a cliff after the way they have ignored him for the last 3 seasons.
Er, if you are in one of the slowest cars in the field during a nail biting championship battle, that is to be expected. Get over it
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
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Craig. wrote
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One thing I would say is, the british media will now start riding Buttons jockstrap for all its worth again, Personally if I was Jeson I would tell them to go walk off a cliff after the way they have ignored him for the last 3 seasons.
Er, if you are in one of the slowest cars in the field during a nail biting championship battle, that is to be expected. Get over it
You didn't experience the Lewis Hamilton centric coverage over here in the UK I take it?
ITV's coverage could easily have been the Lewis Hamilton/McLaren show, with a GP in between. No one seemed to tell them about the 6 (7 with Super Aguri) British based teams!
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
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Craig. wrote
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One thing I would say is, the british media will now start riding Buttons jockstrap for all its worth again, Personally if I was Jeson I would tell them to go walk off a cliff after the way they have ignored him for the last 3 seasons.
Er, if you are in one of the slowest cars in the field during a nail biting championship battle, that is to be expected. Get over it
Get over what?
Its a simple point. From 2004 to 2006 every race weekend we were constantly subjected to James allens love for Button, he almost exploded hungary 2006, and every race we were given the wonderful insight of John Button (jensons dad). Then halfway through 2006 suddenly lewis hamilton starts to appear on the radar, and James Allen and co rather unceremoniously dump Jenson and daddy, and start cuddling up to Lewis and daddy, we barely heard from Jenson at that point and not once from his dad.
Now I personally couldn't care we all know my dislike of hamilton thanks to the way he was forced down our throats, and Jenson I've never really had an opinion about quite honestly. I prefer Jensons honest approach though, he is more up for a laugh with interviews. I'm simply saying Jenson would be best not to let the media back in bed with him simply because through said tough patch they wanted nothing at all to do with him.
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It's always been that way.. for as long as I can remember. James Hunt in the 70s, Mansell in the 80s and early 90s, Hill in the mid 90s.
I noticed it watching the BBC's online highlights of the Oz GPs from 1986 and 1994. The 94 was the most biased, the whole intro centred around the Rothmans Williams and Damon's "Rowing Club" helmet. Interspersed with footage of Hill Sr. wearing the very same colours.
The home media will always get behind the best hope of glory (and publicity) that they can cover.. viewing figures are the king and nobody tunes in to see back markers.
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C wrote
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
on Mar 29
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Craig. wrote
on Mar 29
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, 2009 at 5:03pm:
One thing I would say is, the british media will now start riding Buttons jockstrap for all its worth again, Personally if I was Jeson I would tell them to go walk off a cliff after the way they have ignored him for the last 3 seasons.
Er, if you are in one of the slowest cars in the field during a nail biting championship battle, that is to be expected. Get over it
You didn't experience the Lewis Hamilton centric coverage over here in the UK I take it?
ITV's coverage could easily have been the Lewis Hamilton/McLaren show, with a GP in between. No one seemed to tell them about the 6 (7 with Super Aguri) British based teams!
I guess you're right, the US has nothing to do with F-1 anymore, so its not like Hobbs, Matchett, or Varsha are really rooting for anyone. I'm even not sure I see Craigs point about Button being more honest than Hamilton in interviews (maybe more P.C. for the sake of the team, but certainly not dishonest). Could it be the scandal rags over there are more concerned with him? I know here all they care about is Oprah getting fat, and what farm animal the former pres. was having an affair with
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I guess you're right, the US has nothing to do with F-1 anymore
Until next year, we hope. Good people behind the proposal, and hopefully they'll be allowed to choose suitable drivers, unlike the previous foray of a US driver into F1, which was entirely based on his sponsor wanting to put a US driver on the grid, as opposed to the other talent available.
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It's always been that way.. for as long as I can remember. James Hunt in the 70s, Mansell in the 80s and early 90s, Hill in the mid 90s.
I noticed it watching the BBC's online highlights of the Oz GPs from 1986 and 1994. The 94 was the most biased, the whole intro centred around the Rothmans Williams and Damon's "Rowing Club" helmet. Interspersed with footage of Hill Sr. wearing the very same colours.
The home media will always get behind the best hope of glory (and publicity) that they can cover.. viewing figures are the king and nobody tunes in to see back markers.
It is no different in other countries. Here in Germany, once Schumacher had made his mark as the world champion until he retired.......Heinz Harald Who?? Nick Heid...something or another and the brother, though he got more than the other two for obvious reasons.
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It's always been that way.. for as long as I can remember. James Hunt in the 70s, Mansell in the 80s and early 90s, Hill in the mid 90s.
I noticed it watching the BBC's online highlights of the Oz GPs from 1986 and 1994. The 94 was the most biased, the whole intro centred around the Rothmans Williams and Damon's "Rowing Club" helmet. Interspersed with footage of Hill Sr. wearing the very same colours.
The home media will always get behind the best hope of glory (and publicity) that they can cover.. viewing figures are the king and nobody tunes in to see back markers.
It is no different in other countries. Here in Germany, once Schumacher had made his mark as the world champion until he retired.......Heinz Harald Who?? Nick Heid...something or another and the brother, though he got more than the other two for obvious reasons.
Matt
Did Schmacher have a brother who was a racing driver? News to me. I know there was Ralf, but...
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Mictheslik wrote
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Yippee....20 points...and 2 Brits on the podium!
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