How to do the cobra
As to why Western aircraft can't do it, probably something to do with the agricultural building techniques of the Russian design bureaus. Try that in a Western thoroughbred and you will probably end up sitting in a carbon and aluminum cloud that is rapidly descending  

Matt

Supermaneuverability is the new kid on the block as far as dog fighting is concerned. It really didn't start to develop into its current form until the 1980s, which is why you are only just seeing western aircraft with this capability.

The whole thing hinges on post-stall maneuverability. Typically in a stall, aircraft lose a majority of their control effectiveness and are designed to nose down in the event of the stall for the purpose of recovery. As fighters evolved, they got lighter and more powerful. The previous generation of fighters started to approach 1:1 thrust weight ratios (or even exceed 1:1 in lightly loaded situations). With that kind of power on tap, people started thinking about ways of using stalls to point the nose quickly, then using power to drive out in the desired direction. In order to do so effectively, the aircraft needs to be designed in such a way that it is still readily controllable through and past the stall. Most older aircraft are simply not designed for this because with less power, there isn't anything to be gained in the post-stall regime. At this time, the most popular way of achieving post-stall maneuverability is though the use of thrust vectoring, which is the system you see coming out up many next generation fighters.

So, to put it in simple terms. Two requirements for supermaneuverability:
1 - Post-stall maneuverability
2 - Better than 1:1 thrust to weight ratio

Developments in supermaneuverability are not limited to the world of fighters. In recent years "3D" flying has become wildly popular among R/C aircraft. Supermaneuverability is a large part of 3D flying. Instead of using thrust vectoring to achieve post-stall maneuverability, R/C aircraft use the prop-wash from high-powered engines to maintain control effectiveness well into the stall regime as seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHS6d4zOqF0

Vodka, its designed to force a chasing plane to overshoot. Not to dodge missiles.

Yeah but if you are being chased by some one trying to kill you in a dog fight at that point, you are willing to try any thing to come out on top, regardless of how crazy it is, if it works, you win. If not, you had better have a back up plan, or start looking for a safe place to punch out.

specter177 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2009 at 7:26pm:


if you live by that you'd never dogfight in the first place.

The cobra is impressive, but nowadays dogfighting aircraft very, very rarely get close enough to make it useful in combat. Can't dodge a heat-seeking missile with it...