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Mar 21st, 2009 at 8:20pm

Alejandro Rojas L.   Ex Member
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A preview of how it could look like

I took borrow just to make these shots and personal view a texture from other plane..

This plane I being doing so far only the 15% made ,and the VC is only 5% ,THERE'S STILL 85% AND 95%  TO COMPLETE THE AIRPLANE ,

in other words,..these shot are taken from an Under Construction aircraft ,will LOOK and will be 90% Much better than as it look in these shots,

and IS

A TRUE FSX MODEL..

it will have Chromate parts , Specular ,Bump maps FXs ,all the twisted areas you see, will be straight ..front lead edge flaps,  ,wingflex FX .Everything that  comes to my mind

Its Being a month since I started from a TUBE shape , yet Theres still the entire work ahead, lot to do (What a difficult plane Shocked) ,but I'll try to make a payware quality
Thanks.

ALEX

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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2009 at 8:24pm

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Shocked The wings on that are gorgeous! This is looking great! Cool Cool
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2009 at 8:34pm

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Are you going to put down a red carpet when you open the door? Grin
 

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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2009 at 8:43pm

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Grin

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Nah, I really don't like this things ,I saw a Citation Souvenir (From a friend Chuck Jodry) that You could even Flush the toilet and open the washer hand ,open doors ,I really don't like that, the plane will have a nice interior ,but not that far ..

I place a doll more like a signature ,but that was a mistake ,It kills the realism and instead looks like a joke plane, 70% of the emails people didn't like it..

Have you seen the YouTube Captain Sim ¿? Shocked Shocked Shocked they did all the interior ,you can do everything except talk with other passengers,That's too far ,and this is Flight Simulator ,Not Flight I sold you a real plane dream.. Grin  
 
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Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 11:50am

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Alejandro - I can get you pictures of the interior of the Citation X, there's one that comes into 4XS7 a few times a week. They would have to come next week or the week after that, though, but I can promise them to you within three weeks.
 
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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:09pm

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Maybe you could consider including two aircraft .mdl configs once it's completed, one with the co-pilot and one without. That way those of us who want some company would have the option of keeping her!
 
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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 5:13pm

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AMDDDA wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 11:50am:
Alejandro - I can get you pictures of the interior of the Citation X, there's one that comes into 4XS7 a few times a week. They would have to come next week or the week after that, though, but I can promise them to you within three weeks.



Very Interested that's what I need ,and MORE if I can get some textures of it ,see I'm working based on photos from airliners

everything is triple harder for me ,I have to guess sometimes how are the things in this one
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 CAFedm wrote on Mar 22nd, 2009 at 2:09pm:
Maybe you could consider including two aircraft .mdl configs once it's completed, one with the co-pilot and one without. That way those of us who want some company would have the option of keeping her!


Noooooo!! Shocked Cafedm never more , too many complaints in my emails ,I did that in the citation 500/I and there were a lot of trouble with the people because there where 6 cit500 in the menu and actually were 3 repaints of the same plane, So far the B727 Nobuddy said anything of the doll(No buddy Miss it) , and people actually like it lot ,I see In youtube the planes I have with the dolls and in the videos they never show the doll , Someone gave me that advise ,That my planes were taken serious ,and mostly like a joke planes ..



I save a lot without that doll inside ,No mapping movements animation etc.. Smiley
 
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 7:18pm

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Alex, one of the most noticable things in this starboard profile view of Bobby's model is that there is a very smooth curve from the wing root to the nose.

Note also the placement of the emergency door on the starboard side.

Your model is really beginning to look terrific! Keep up the great work my friend!  Cool

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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 9:07pm

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Grin Grin Grin


Yeah, I just saw it on airliners ,It seems that this second part Has to follow a line  from the wing base to the nose, the nose after the winshield need  to be pull up a tiny little bit
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,also the Nose the Point need more sharp
Notice Bill This is Not the paint
 ,these are from my oldest citationX ,I put them there to see this is why the main door is in both sides ..

Cheesy there's still time ,and I havent attach and cuts many parts In fact the fuselage is all separated in parts presisly for this..

Grin Did you know You said Bobby ,I though Jezz!! Shocked if someone release a freeware like this I would have to quit this Job right Now,Then I made my research Its the Eaglesoft Modelmade by Bob Hayes  Cool Perfect !

Of course It will never have the quality of a company and a group`of developers ,programmers and I bet You all had a real citation X in your hands to copy  it from a real life one ..Right? Wink

I just a poor guy ,in a lost country ,with No more peanut butter , and not money to buy a big Jift jar , just spending my time,

Roll Eyes Do you know a good programmer that makes me the gauges LOL Grin

Thanks Bill

Alex  
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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2009 at 10:09pm

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excellent as always!!!

 
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Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2009 at 12:41pm

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Very Talented.
 
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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2009 at 4:48pm

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NOSE AND BELLY HAS BEEN FIXED!


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COMPARE BOTH  SHAPES NOW!!


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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2009 at 8:09pm

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Looking nice, Alex!  Cool
 
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Reply #13 - Mar 28th, 2009 at 7:27pm

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ahh, this part if the most complex ,there are two doors which I need more info ,One is sick to the gear and the other is smaller and its in the wing ,besides there is a hole ,not just a hole of the tires (like 737)

I did a drawing myself to try to understand the animation and sequence
I have 4 or 5 days just on this ,I'm stock you don't have any idea how many rehearsals Fails and remake parts over and over I have done for this  Embarrassed Undecided
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I'm about to get more crazy ,(More than i already am) for this..also I have some confusion about the flaps ..
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Reply #14 - Mar 30th, 2009 at 4:01pm
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Really nice Alex! You've come a long way and I'm really looking forward to see what's next! You're getting better every time!

Cheers my friend,
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Reply #15 - Mar 30th, 2009 at 6:33pm

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Really nice Alex! You've come a long way and I'm really looking forward to see what's next! You're getting better every time!

Cheers my friend,
Fabian


Thanks a lot Fabian ,only few know how important are theses replys ,while we are working. Wink

Well finally,at last I could figure it out the back landing gears shapes doors etc, (If is not the same ,Sorry ,I never seen a plane..and less a citation X)



Don't pay attention to the paint I put that thing to cover the mesh

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Reply #16 - Mar 31st, 2009 at 5:09pm
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Nice! Because I'll have some free time in the coming future I bought a huge GMAX-how-to book - 852 pages  Tongue. Maybe I'll start learning GMAX now that I have the time.

A descent Stuttgart airport scenery would be on my to-do wishlist. But maybe I'll start to learn the basics first.

Keep up the good work,
Cheers,
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Reply #17 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 1:25pm

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where did you get the gmax book?
 
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Reply #18 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 1:28pm

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brantmacga wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 1:25pm:
where did you get the gmax book?


Yes I would like to know. I would love to model toronto buildings.
 
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Reply #19 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 1:42pm
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Amazon is your friend....
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http://www.amazon.com/gmax-Bible-Kelly-L-Murdock/dp/0764537571/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?i...
 
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Reply #20 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:27pm

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I would strongly recommend more the
Stupids idiot guide
that's the name you can download this PDF tutorial Its consider one of the best for beginers

http://www.simviation.com/gryphon/tutorials/gMax_00.htm

see, that Bible book carries a lot of thing you won't need ,gmax is used to made Quake models, counter strike, all those thousands of add-ons to those games ,,You must focus in particular in one thing
How to make thing works in FS9 or FSX from a model made in gmax OR how to conver a model I made in Gmax into MDL ,That's is the most difficult thing in all of these ,II wish you people would understand that making a mesh is difficult yes, But most difficult than everything its to learn how to convert Gmax files into mdl files ,this is why most of my model I post are not taking from gmax or 3d studio max 7 , Both Gmax and 3d max are almost the same ,but 3d max is much more advance


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People made the same mistake Over and Over again ,They made a complex aircraft they spend a while learning how to shape it and make many great models that will never be inside fsx or fs9 ,I did the opposite I made a dummy plane , and began to try to export that was in 2003 ,I spend a while learning how to make the gears animation, the mapping, ONCE I knew how and see this dummy plane inside FS2004 with a dummy VC ,then I start and made a Boeing 717, PLEASE people try to listen or read me ,no buddy put any attention of what I say here ,is for your sake , there are many models here even in this page that won't ever be in MSFS because they waste all their energy making a beautiful and brillian aircraft but they hhave no idea how to EXPORT into MSFS mdl...



 
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Reply #21 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:33pm

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Thanks for the heads up.  Now im scared.  Shocked
 
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Reply #22 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:43pm
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Alejandro Rhodes wrote on Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:27pm:
I would strongly recommend more the
Stupids idiot guide
that's the name you can download this PDF tutorial Its consider one of the best for beginers

http://www.simviation.com/gryphon/tutorials/gMax_00.htm

see, that Bible book carries a lot of thing you won't need ,gmax is used to made Quake models, counter strike, all those thousands of add-ons to those games ,,You must focus in particular in one thing
How to make thing works in FS9 or FSX from a model made in gmax OR how to conver a model I made in Gmax into MDL ,That's is the most difficult thing in all of these ,II wish you people would understand that making a mesh is difficult yes, But most difficult than everything its to learn how to convert Gmax files into mdl files ,this is why most of my model I post are not taking from gmax or 3d studio max 7 , Both Gmax and 3d max are almost the same ,but 3d max is much more advance


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People made the same mistake Over and Over again ,They made a complex aircraft they spend a while learning how to shape it and make many great models that will never be inside fsx or fs9 ,I did the opposite I made a dummy plane , and began to try to export that was in 2003 ,I spend a while learning how to make the gears animation, the mapping, ONCE I knew how and see this dummy plane inside FS2004 with a dummy VC ,then I start and made a Boeing 717, PLEASE people try to listen or read me ,no buddy put any attention of what I say here ,is for your sake , there are many models here even in this page that won't ever be in MSFS because they waste all their energy making a beautiful and brillian aircraft but they hhave no idea how to EXPORT into MSFS mdl...




Shocked Shocked Shocked Your Citation looks wonderful! Thanks for the warning! Nevertheless I think it is a very good book.
 
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Reply #23 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 7:53pm

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Its begining to looks like a citX
I have made the base map ,I draw a couple crazy lines and put the name in a quick way ,But the base of the drawings are made ,and this map will be a paintkit for others who may wish to repaint..

BTW Linus Osorio is making the gauges of this one and will make other for the Citation Sovereign

BTW ,I'll think I'll make the TWO CITATIONS in two models FS2004(FS9-SDK) and True FSX model

These two lines red and blue are not real textures ,I just draw them to put some details ,the base will be the final

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