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Mar 2nd, 2009 at 8:54pm

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Flight sim could be a place to test ideas.  Where are the dreamers?
The real aviation world is full of visionaries who devote years, if not lifetimes to making their aircraft concepts real, Burt Rutan, and Jim Bede being great personal favourites as examples of people who changed our notion of what is possible.  The annual pilgrimage to Oshkosh and other showcase air-shows around the world is testimony to the imagination.
In the flying model aircraft community, you can pick up magazines from any decade and see hundreds of aircraft that have no real world equivalent.  As a kid, my aircraft modeling buddies and I designed and built all kinds of our-own-design concept aircraft, using balsa wood, or foam, and we also crashed and destroyed way too many of these.  The price of a crash was incredibly high when considering the long hours put into building, and yet we did build them.
As an environment to dream and test aircraft concepts, it would seem to me that these flight simulation games are a wonderful vehicle.  The leaning curve for the modeling software, painting programs, texture mapping, and creating a custom flight dynamics file, may be long, but a modification is easy, a repaint is easier, where crashes just means reloading the aircraft – no broken bit to carry home.  A new idea can be made as easy as changing a few numbers in a file and you are away to the virtually races.  
Scanning these flight sim web sites and forums, one finds an incredible array of aircraft, a virtual aviation museum of anything that was flown or even shown on design drawing during the past in any war or by any larger aviation manufacturer, yet the homebuilt designs are under represented, and the concepts that people could dream up (with few exceptions) aren’t there!  It seems very few flight simmer are willing to run with something (to fly it) unless it was validated by some previous government or corporation.  Again, this seems at odds with the free spirit of the internet, where anything is possible and “more power to dreamer”.   So where are the dreamer?

Harold
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Reply #1 - Mar 2nd, 2009 at 9:06pm

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VERY well said sir. Smiley

If I see another 777 or cessna released, I'm gonna puke. Cheesy

One of my favorite sections at the SimV download site is the concepts.

All kinds of wild stuff for all manner of flying, from your excellent swift to the flying lazyboy recliner, and even a cargo plane that makes the An-225 look like an ultra light.

I wish more developers took this stance towards design. There's only so many ways to make the same plane over and over, but it takes some real imagination and creativity to come up with a completely fresh and new design that no one has ever seen, and then have it fly successfully and  gracefully.

I'm a dreamer, but I lack the current knowledge to put my ideas into the sim. I'm trying to devote an hour or two each day to learning GMAX, but the curve is steep, and the going slow. Undecided But, I'll get there someday. Wink
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 4th, 2009 at 4:57am

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A concept airplane (my own, pictured below Smiley ) got me started on using FSDS designing objects for flight simulation. After a couple of reworkings, and with a lot of help from the FS design community, the aircraft can be flown complete with "authentic" Air Force repaints. Funny thing is, although I have a fair number of real-life favourites at hand (incl. A343 & DHC-4 Caribou) this one remains my favourite and is flown almost exclusively. You never know what sort of interest your idea may hold for others, but it's satisfying to see it take flight even if only in a virtual sense. Harold's Swift looks quite interesting, going to have to check it out as well.

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