Simviation Forum - Another crash

Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:00pm

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This time a helicopter:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/7898472.stm

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Reply #1 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:06pm

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Things are dropping out of the sky at an alarming rate here recently. Undecided

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Reply #2 - Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:18pm

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:06pm:

Things are dropping out of the sky at an alarming rate here recently. Undecided

Go to this website.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp

As you will see, crashes happen every day of the week, but it is only after a fatal accident that the media decides every incident is newsworthy.

Dave

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Reply #3 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 2:54am

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DaveSims wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:18pm:

ShaneG wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:06pm:

Things are dropping out of the sky at an alarming rate here recently. Undecided

Go to this website.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp

As you will see, crashes happen every day of the week, but it is only after a fatal accident that the media decides every incident is newsworthy.

Exactly what I was about to say. Good news never sold a paper.

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Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 8:47am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:06pm:

Things are dropping out of the sky at an alarming rate here recently. Undecided

I believe you.

My opinion ONLY:

Problem is, take your average Aviation Mag. browse to the second hand models and spot check those manufacturing dates.

Problem is: we are having too many old birds still in the air.

Problem is also: many more aviation training centre's then before, more planes in the air.

My opinion is many mass pilot production comes from these schools unlike the old days where you came via the air-force, which only the best of the best were allowed to train.

In no context am I implying that only old models will crash, or trainees from private schools are bad pilots. But with old comes risk and with mass production comes bigger chance of failure.

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Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2009 at 9:12am

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Flying Mouse wrote on Feb 20^th, 2009 at 8:47am:

ShaneG wrote on Feb 19^th, 2009 at 4:06pm:

Things are dropping out of the sky at an alarming rate here recently. Undecided

I believe you.

My opinion ONLY:

Problem is, take your average Aviation Mag. browse to the second hand models and spot check those manufacturing dates.

Problem is: we are having too many old birds still in the air.

Problem is also: many more aviation training centre's then before, more planes in the air.

My opinion is many mass pilot production comes from these schools unlike the old days where you came via the air-force, which only the best of the best were allowed to train.

In no context am I implying that only old models will crash, or trainees from private schools are bad pilots. But with old comes risk and with mass production comes bigger chance of failure.

Just my opinion Lips Sealed

Ok, I feel I must address some of the things you have mentioned.

First, old planes have no worse safety record than newer aircraft. Very few crashes are attributed to unforeseen mechanical failure or metal fatigue, most are human-error.

Second, no matter how good the school and training, pilots are human, and prone to screwing up and making bad decisions. That being said, aviation is as safe now as its ever been. As I posted before, the rate of crashes has not gone up, just the number the media likes to scare people with. This will pass in a few weeks when the media finds a new target to scare the public with.

Dave

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