Simviation Forum - FS2002 addon aircraft

Feb 15^th, 2009 at 10:14pm

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i have downloaded over 30 aircraft all supposedly competable with
fs2002 only a handful works
tho all of the scenery add ons have no problem

can anyone help pls ???

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Reply #1 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 3:31am

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Hi & welcome. It would help to know which aircraft you're having problems with. Give me a couple of examples with the page numbers they're posted on so I can download them & check them out.

Also state which version of FS2002 you have. Pro or Standard.

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Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 2:07pm

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http://www.fsfield.com/viewfile/1005.html
http://www.fsfield.com/viewfile/602.html
http://www.fsfield.com/viewfile/549.html
http://www.fsfield.com/viewfile/534.html
http://www.fsfield.com/viewfile/523.html

yes those above are some - amazing it just does not work
but all the scenery files r perfect

thx for your help ...

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Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 5:25pm

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OK. As you asked for help here I expected the files to be posted on this site. However, I download the first two to check them out. Installation seems pretty straightforward to me. I suspect you're not installing the correct folder to FS2002\Aircraft. For Kirk Olsson's F-16 look in the extracted zipfile for a folder named f16tiger. This is the one you paste into your FS2002\Aircraft folder. Paste the contents of the Gauges & Effects folders into their corresponding folders in FS2002. It will work but you will need to download the panel separately. Read the included instructions carefully.

The B-52 is even easier. Extract the zipfile & look for a folder named B52H_VI. Paste this into FS2002\Aircraft. Paste the contents of the Guages folder (note the typo) into FS2002\Gauges.

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Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 5:33pm

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i undertstand what u r saying aircraft to aircraft gauges to gauges texture to texture - however some aircraft works regardless like grippen like cessna 182 like de havilland or flanker
how do u account for those ???

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Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 5:42pm

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First you have to identify the "aircraft container" folder. That's the folder DIRECTLY containing the familiar Model, Panel. Sound & Texture sub-folders. This is the folder you paste into FS2002\Aircraft. If it's hidden inside another folder it cannot be listed on the selection menu or work in FS2002. Open the folder of any default flyable aircraft for reference as to how it should look. Any included gauges & effects go to their corresponding folders in FS2002.

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Reply #6 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 6:48pm

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sorry but there r aircraft all gauges textures & sounds in the container file - unzipped ofcourse but working perfectly well
dont need to move gauges textures anywhere ...

B52 i ve done as u said - nothing changed...
what is difficult to understand is why a very few work as soon as placed in fs2002 aircraft folder after unzipping and majority doesnt ????

and yet scenery files all work y???

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Reply #7 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:02pm

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Unfortunately there is no template for configuring FS addons. Everyone has their own pet methods for installing aircraft & the people that create the addons are no different. There are as many different ways of configuring the files for posting as there are for extracting & installing them.

Once you know what you're looking for it should be easy enough. Over the last 10 years I've installed literally thousands of files to every version of FS/CFS since FS98. In that time I've found about 10 aircraft that didn't work properly.

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B52 i ve done as u said - nothing changed...

This is the B-52. The highlighted folder named B52H_V1 is the one you want.

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Reply #8 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:07pm

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in fact once u paste aircraft into fs 2002 main aircraft file - it automatically takes out panel gauge and sound to separate files within fs2002 hence guage sound and texture ...

i have checked it
so there must be something else ...

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Reply #9 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:12pm

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flightex wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:07pm:

in fact once u paste aircraft into fs 2002 main aircraft file - it automatically takes out panel gauge and sound to separate files within fs2002 hence guage sound and texture ...

i have checked it
so there must be something else ...

Sorry. I can't understand what you mean.

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Reply #10 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:16pm

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yes i have that file then what ???

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Reply #11 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:20pm

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flightex wrote on Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:16pm:

yes i have that file then what ???

Right-click (right mouse button) on the folder named B52H_V1 & select Cut from the drop-down menu. Navigate to your FS2002\Aircraft folder. Right-click in a clear space & select Paste. The aircraft is now installed & will be listed under Boeing on the FS2002 aircraft selection menu. You need to paste the contents of the Guages folder into FS2002\Gauges to complete the installation.

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Reply #12 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:28pm

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thx understood the principle now
got b52 aircraft working yet panel doesnt have all gauges
it that what your experience is ???
i put the panel in gauges file is that right ???

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Reply #13 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:34pm

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In Windows Explorer open the Guages folder in the extracted zipfile. Click Edit/Select All on the menu bar. Then click Edit/Cut.

Now open the FS2002\Gauges folder. Click Edit/Paste on the menu bar. Do not overwrite existing files/folders if prompted.

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Reply #14 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:44pm

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did what u have said but gauges r not there
just a few overhead
there is no dashboard altimeter etc

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Reply #15 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 7:51pm

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Works fine for me.

Please try again. What you're doing is moving the gauges from the Guages folder in the downloaded zipfile into your FS2002 main Gauges folder.

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Reply #16 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 8:03pm

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done that but with no avail
select all then paste on fs2002 guages
a few times just doesnt work
incidentally select all pastes as a file - what do u say to that ???

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Reply #17 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 8:08pm

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Select All then Cut. Paste into FS2002\Gauges.

There are 54 files in that Guages folder. Paste them all into the FS2002 Gauges folder but do NOT overwrite existing files if prompted.

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Reply #18 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 8:23pm

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yes i know & they r all pasted but no way it just doesnt want to know

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Reply #19 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 8:29pm

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You're obviously pasting them into the wrong location. They go into the main FS2002 Gauges folder with all the default gauges.

It's way past my bedtime & I'm tired. I'll be here tomorrow if you need me.

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Reply #20 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 8:32pm

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welll i pasted them to fs2002 main GAUGES file
now other anomalies appear such as f104 has b52 panel...

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Reply #21 - Feb 16^th, 2009 at 9:33pm

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all sorted ...
now
i have another question some aircraft doesnt have a file name
it just says model
and some times there is no gauges file

what do we have to do in those cases ???

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Reply #22 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:20am

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I'm glad you fixed that anyway.

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i have another question some aircraft doesnt have a file name
it just says model

what do we have to do in those cases ???

I have no idea. Can you direct me to an example.

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and some times there is no gauges file

Not all aircraft will have their own gauges. Some panels use default gauges & others are aliased to use the panels of default aircraft. You might like to read my Aliasing article. http://www.simviation.com/lair/aliasing1.htm

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Reply #23 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 1:14pm

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http://www.fsfield.com/viewfile/534.html

pls look in to this file
c there is no aircraft folder
it says only model without definition
do we have to rename it and place it into container file for FS2002 ?
same applies to effects etc files - again do they goto effect container files in FS2002 ???

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Reply #24 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 1:25pm

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It looks perfectly normal to me.

This might depend on the utility & method you use for extracting zipfiles. Please try my method. Right-click on the zipfile & select Extract All. Follow the Wizard by clicking Next twice & then Finish. Leave it on the default settings. You should now have a folder with the same name as the zipfile sitting next to it in your download folder.

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same applies to effects etc files - again do they goto effect container files in FS2002 ???

Yes. Use the same method as for the gauges. Paste the contents into their corresponding folders in FS2002.

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Reply #25 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 2:11pm

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its a peculiar logic
y is there no one method for all
y every creator of these aircrafts go tangent and apply their own method???
what about sound & texture files
y dont we move their contents to their FS2002 container files ???

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Reply #26 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 2:22pm

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The utilities & methods you use are a matter of preference. This has nothing to do with the addons themselves.

I was hoping you would be getting the idea of this by now. All FS aircraft are basically configured in the same way, a "container folder" directly containing the familiar Model, Panel, Sound & Texture sub-folders - like the highlighted folders in my screenshots of the B-52 & F-104. These sub-folders must stay exactly where they are or it wont work.

Any extras like effects & gauges files are usually found in folders with the same names as those in the FS root directory. Install the files by pasting them into their respective folders.

I checked the panel & sound folders of the F-104 & both are aliased. The sound is fine but Panel.cfg will need editing as described in my Aliasing article for it to display on the FS2002 aircraft selection menu.

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Reply #27 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 2:33pm

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understood all creators r different ...
but a protocol could have been easier but anyway...

incidentally f16 has problems with opening
altough it shows in FS2002
when clicked on flying the elevation files dont open and
FS2002 shuts off & goes in a loop
y do u think it is ?

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Reply #28 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:02pm

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understood all creators r different ...
but a protocol could have been easier but anyway...

That's just the way things are. Nothing can be done about it now.

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incidentally f16 has problems with opening
altough it shows in FS2002
when clicked on flying the elevation files dont open and
FS2002 shuts off & goes in a loop
y do u think it is ?

I don't know what you mean by "elevation files". If you read the instructions the F-16 requires a panel to be downloaded separately. The link is in the file named f-16 panel download info..log Please read it carefully.

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Reply #29 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:14pm

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elevation files loading <<<< it says at the begining of the game /flight in FS2002 program
blue screen with a loadin bar ...
at that point it waits & waits then loop ...

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Reply #30 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:30pm

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flightex wrote on Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:14pm:

elevation files loading <<<< it says at the begining of the game /flight in FS2002 program
blue screen with a loadin bar ...
at that point it waits & waits then loop ...

In that case it might be better to delete the F-16. Not worth worrying about.

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Reply #31 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:32pm

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that i was going to do
but what about the guages folder in the container files ???
there r heeps in that - how do we find and delete those ?

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Reply #32 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:45pm

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There are two gauges included with the F-16. They won't do any harm left where they are. If you wish to delete them there is one GAU file named viper_HUD_ADI.GAU & an ordinary folder named keffect

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Reply #33 - Feb 17^th, 2009 at 3:48pm

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will do ...
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Reply #34 - Feb 18^th, 2009 at 12:33am

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sorry as i couldnt find a way to send u the aircraft file tru the forum
i have a [u]spanish F5[/u] but the engine is cessna 172 sound - i tried to put the sound folder in FS 2002 sound container file with no avail
i couldnt change the outcome
y do u think it is ???

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Reply #35 - Feb 18^th, 2009 at 4:06am

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Please check your e-mail.

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