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Reply #45 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:14am

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I must have, that's good news indeed! Smiley I was starting to feel discouraged. Grin

I will have to go back through it some more then. Wink
 
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Reply #46 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:18am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:14am:
I must have, that's good news indeed! Smiley I was starting to feel discouraged. Grin

I will have to go back through it some more then. Wink

I admire your perseverance. Most people would have given up long ago. I've come to the conclusion that we're wasting our time unless the problem with those VC gauges can be fixed.

I ran a check on missing gauges from the main panel & VC. There are more than I thought.
 

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Reply #47 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:26am

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Hagar wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:18am:
ShaneG wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:14am:
I must have, that's good news indeed! Smiley I was starting to feel discouraged. Grin

I will have to go back through it some more then. Wink

I admire your perseverance. Most people would have given up long ago. I've come to the conclusion that we're wasting our time unless the problem with those VC gauges can be fixed.

I ran a check on missing gauges from the main panel & VC. There are more than I thought.



I hate leaving a problem unsolved once I've thrown my hat into the ring. Wink  And it would be nice to get this one working as it is a rather nice package. If  Guzman and Alrot teamed up with this, they could put out one hell of an impressive package. Not that Alrot's isn't already a very impressive plane. I just think Alrot could improve this one alot in the VC department. Smiley The exterior models are very close to each other.

This is one of those instances where I wish I could just drop a whole new VC into these things. Grin
 
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Reply #48 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:31am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:26am:
This is one of those instances where I wish I could just drop a whole new VC into these things. Grin

If it had a proper FSX model & the author did not protect it you could do exactly that. It's possible to swap VCs in the FSX defaults. Unfortunately a lot of the freeware developers seem to object to other people interfering with their work in this way.
 

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Reply #49 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:43am

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Understandably so. I know it would upset me if my hard work was ripped off and used for something else without permission at least.

But on the other hand, planes like this one make the situation a little frustrating, and a simple fix job like swapping VCs would save a lot of time and hassle.

My advice to the OP is just stick with Alrots 707. Wink

By the time this gauge problem got sorted out, it wouldn't be the same plane anymore. Undecided
 
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Reply #50 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:01am

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Shane, Hager, though it may no longer matter..   Smiley

For the 'missing engines gauges' in the engine gauge pop-up (shift+6?).....it's an omission in the gauge= lines for the concorde gauges.

Compare the lines from the 2d or VC banel and you'll see the lines in the pop up are missing a comma before the final digit.

I agree with Shane that most of the pop ups could/should be scrapped. All functions are available in the 2D or VC plus the radio and overhead pop ups (plus the GPS for modern convenience).

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Reply #51 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:04am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 8:43am:
Understandably so. I know it would upset me if my hard work was ripped off and used for something else without permission at least.

But on the other hand, planes like this one make the situation a little frustrating, and a simple fix job like swapping VCs would save a lot of time and hassle.

I'm not sure I understand the objections. It's not a question of ripping anything off. FSX aircraft have 2 MDL files, one for the exterior model & the other for the VC. I saw the exciting possibilities of this soon after first trying the FSX Demo but it didn't work out in the way I expected. It would make the job of creating aircraft for FSX so much easier. Some people are better at the exterior model & others specialise in the VC. I can't see the harm if the files were posted separately, similar to 2D panels, repaints & other improvements.  

However, the 707 is an FS9 model which makes this irrelevant. Smiley

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My advice to the OP is just stick with Alrots 707. Wink

By the time this gauge problem got sorted out, it wouldn't be the same plane anymore. Undecided

I think that was pointed out on the first page of this topic. Tongue Wink
 

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Reply #52 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:19am

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dave3cu wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:01am:
Shane, Hager,

For the 'missing engines gauges' in the engine gauge pop-up (shift+6?).....it's an omission in the gauge= lines for the concorde gauges.

Compare the lines from the 2d or VC banel and you'll see the lines in the pop up are missing a comma before the final digit.

Dave

Thanks Dave. I wonder why CfgEdit didn't pick that up.
 

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Reply #53 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:24am

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No objections, I was just acknowledging why some protect their work. Wink

If this were an FSX model, I'd swap for the 747 VC in a heartbeat and be done with it. Grin

It would be so much nicer if more people released them in the manner you suggested.


To Dave: Good eye! Going to give that a try. Smiley
 
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Reply #54 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:42am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:24am:
No objections, I was just acknowledging why some protect their work. Wink

I wasn't inferring that you had objections.

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If this were an FSX model, I'd swap for the 747 VC in a heartbeat and be done with it. Grin

Unfortunately that would not be possible with most 3rd party aircraft. I believe that most FSX 'designers' (for want of a better word) code their files to prevent it. That's what I was talking about.
 

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Reply #55 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:42am

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Hager,

It appears the last digit is an 'extra' digit (5th place holder) used by the Concorde gauge to identify the engine number. With the comma missing Gfgedit would see it a the normal 4th place (Y size).

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Reply #56 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:45am

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dave3cu wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:42am:
Hager,

It appears the last digit is an 'extra' digit (5th place holder) used by the Concorde gauge to identify the engine number. With the comma missing Gfgedit would see it a the normal 4th place (Y size).

Dave

I understand that Dave. I manually modified the CFG accordingly & it now works fine. Smiley
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Reply #57 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:45am

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That makes sense. Smiley I misread your post about the objections, makes sense to me now that I take it in a different context, I think you were referring to the creators objecting, correct?


Dave's point got the engine popup panel looking much better, but as you said, there are still many gauges missing.
 
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Reply #58 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:50am

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 28th, 2009 at 9:45am:
That makes sense. Smiley I misread your post about the objections, makes sense to me now that I take it in a different context, I think you were referring to the creators objecting, correct?

Indeed. With certain exceptions I think this is a misguided & short-sighted attitude.
 

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Reply #59 - Feb 28th, 2009 at 12:45pm

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ShaneG wrote on Feb 23rd, 2009 at 3:44pm:
That does help!  Smiley

And is that utility freeware? It looks EXTREMELY handy to have for situations like this one.


CFG Edit was the freeware precursor to FS Panel Studio. The last version may be downloaded from here:

http://www.combatfs.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=info&FileUploadName=Redwulf...
 

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