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Jan 12th, 2009 at 1:38pm

Cobra   Offline
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I was just wondering if anyone knows the exact criteria for keeping my licence valid. I was under the impression that, among other things, I needed to fly 12 hours a year, but someone scared me the other day saying that in fact it should be 12 hours PIC which I don't think i'll have?

And also, are these hours in the last 365 days or from the date of licence issue??

Thanks lads  Smiley
 

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Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2009 at 2:22pm

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LASORS 2008 section F, page 10/11...

Quote:
Revalidation by flying experience

A SEP (Land) and/or TMG class rating can be revalidated
by flying experience by producing logbook evidence to
an appropriately authorised JAR-FCL Examiner, before
the rating expiry date has passed, of the following flying
experience completed within the 12 months preceding the
rating expiry date.

12 hours of flight time in SEP or TMG aircraft as
appropriate to include;

i. 6 hours as pilot-in-command;

ii. 12 take-offs and landings;

iii. a training flight of at least 1 hour’s duration with
a FI(A) or CRI(A)* who must countersign the
appropriate logbook entry (see full details below).


*The instructor must be authorised in accordance with
JAR-FCL to instruct for the JAR-FCL TMG or SEP(Land)
rating as appropriate. UK QSP only may undertake the
instructional flight with a UK Military instructor. This
training flight may be replaced by any other aeroplane
proficiency check or skill test for an instrument, class or
type rating (as defined by JAR-FCL) with a JAA qualified
Examiner, or by a flight test for the issue/revalidation or
renewal of a UK IMC rating.

• If revalidating by flying experience, and providing
the examiner signs the Certificate of Revalidation
page within the 3 months prior to the rating expiry,
the validity of the revalidated rating will be calculated
from the date of expiry of the preceding rating.

• If the licence contains both SEP (Land) and TMG
ratings, the revalidation by proficiency check
requirements above may be completed in either
class or in the case of revalidation by experience in
either class or a mixture of the classes, and achieve
revalidation of both ratings.

Note: A SEP (Land) class rating cannot be revalidated
or renewed by passing the Skill Test for the initial
issue or renewal of a TMG rating and vice versa.
Important If intending to revalidate by flying
Note: experience, the Certificate of
Revalidation must be signed before
the expiry date of the previous rating
has passed, otherwise the SEP/TMG
rating renewal requirements of F1.5
will apply.




So it's unlikely that UAS flying solely will keep you current. Wink

Might do my PPL soon... 10 years of flying this year, and still haven't got round to it! Grin
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2009 at 7:16pm

Cobra   Offline
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Ah sweet, thanks C ... that was what I was looking for. Such a complicated bussiness ... !

Haha, you saw right through me ... that was basically what I was asking ... thought I was on easy street now Her Majesty was paying for my flying  Cry

& thats crazy C! It will be funny when you walk into the local flying club saying you want to do your PPL, and when the give you the usual snobbery just drop in the few hundred/thousand hours on the VC10!

Thanks again mate Smiley Next time you are down and Leeming drop me a line if you have a free few minutes!
 

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Reply #3 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 10:39am

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Cobra wrote on Jan 12th, 2009 at 7:16pm:
Ah sweet, thanks C ... that was what I was looking for. Such a complicated bussiness ... !

Haha, you saw right through me ... that was basically what I was asking ... thought I was on easy street now Her Majesty was paying for my flying  Cry


Grin If I'd been in the same position 8 or 9 years ago, I'd have thought the same thing. Sadly I needed a new car, and bang went the budget to top up the hours from my Flying Scholarship.

Having said that, you know that you can count at least 6 hours of it, and you should get about an hour solo in the first year (first solo and cct consol trips, maybe even solo sector recce). That leaves you to find a friendly flying school to give you a check flight and 4 hrs or so solo rental in a C152 (hey, you could take me flying! Wink). Smiley

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Thanks again mate Smiley Next time you are down and Leeming drop me a line if you have a free few minutes!


Will do, if I can find an excuse. There aren't many excuses about that could get me up there. Smiley
 
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