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Jan 11th, 2009 at 4:20pm

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Hi all,

It's been a labor of love to get into this forum...for the last month and a half the registration process would not work as my IP would not allow emails from here....(hate Time Warner). But Pete got back to me and got me straight....thanks again Pete!!

So I am just like alot of the others here, wondering which system to buy...how to clock it up...how to test things.....gefrag things...it's endless. I have spent hours upon hours reading this site as I realize the info I am wanting to know about is all here.

Before the questions of how to do this and that...blahh blahhh...I guess I find it pretty cool that there is a guy that apparently knows more about computers than all my former professors did in Engineering College. I am amazed of Nicks knowledge and the serious detail of very complex process and proceedures. It's obvious that all/most of this flight simming stuff is fairly simple for him...I'd like to see the results of a real challenge.

And upon reading...and reading I think I actually know a member on here. Could SubZero be a former Gaucho? I hope so, he is a really cool guy!! He might also remember me picking up his TWR/GND as JX

So call that my little intro, just without the me part as I didn't see a section for that on this board.

So I was wondering about my little experiment last night...well 3A.M.

I am not done setting up my new rig as far as add ons go. I mainly fly lvld 763, but will be getting the Arian 739 and maybe some PGDM stuff....as well as some tex/scenery but I haven't really made up my mind. Nick made it very clear to clock LAST...after everything is installed and fragged. (before I forget) There is a defrag software that has multiple versions or something. Is that program to be usef for Vista 64? Or am I to just use the windowes defrag?

So I wanted to mention what I did last night and get a little feed back.
Dram freq @1600
UCLK 3200
Dram bus vt @ 1.6
QPI/Dram @ 1.35 vt.

First four:
(cl) 8
8
8
24

These settings seem stable although I only ran cpu-z to make sure the changes took...and it's a little odd:

Dram freq: 803.8 (last digit is dynamic)
FSB:FRAM  ---  2:12
First four:
CL:8
tRCD:8
tRP:8
tRAS:24

CR: 2T    <--------------- is that right?

So at 3 when i did this I actually set dram vt at 1.66 (in the red)
and the qpi/dram was just a hair under 1.37 vt.

Booted with same number above but after a minute or two the left display (my primary) was like.....blurry from tiny oscilations. The second display was just fine....scared me, so I rebooted to the posted dran vt and qpi/dram settings....things are back to normal.
...

Is this correct?

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Reply #1 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 9:11pm

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Reply #2 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 9:20pm

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Its a big post.. this is sunday and I have the flu


803 is correct.. thats 1606MHz  you multiply by 2

2T does not look right unless the memory you bought is not 1T rated. The setting to force 1T is in the BIOS under COMMAND RATE as I recall but I would check with Corsair and make sure the sticks you purchased are designed to run 1T

Corsair may want the DRAM voltage at 1.66 which is fine and QPI/DRAM is also OK at 1.37 but you can set it manually (in the BIOS not Windows) to the specs of DRAM 1.65 and QPI/DRAM 1.35

If the memory is rated for DRAM 1.65, set it to 1.65v in the BIOS

CPUz you posted SHOWS the XMP-1600 Profile which clearly lists the right settings

8-8-8-24  COMMAND RATE 2T @ 1.65v

so that is what should be set in the BIOS

1T may or may not be stable.. you can try it and see but be aware if the memory you purchased is not rated for 1T it may be unstable



Hope that helps... soory but I am flat on my face sick  Smiley



 
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Reply #3 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 9:31pm

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Just let me know your "home sick" rate and I'll gladly cut you a check in the morning Wink

Seriously, THANK YOU.

I was hoping one of the many guys on here that are more knowledgable could answer my silly question....it's appreciated.

The memory I bought is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224

I will up it again and see if it wants to remain stable. And I do it in the bios...not the SW.

Go take some Theraflu...you're alot nicer than I when I have the flu. My wife will barley speak to me when I am sick...again, thank you.

edit:
Oh, do you know if there is a thermal diode within the sticks? Is that something I care about?
 

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Reply #4 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 9:45pm

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dvpro wrote on Jan 11th, 2009 at 9:31pm:
Just let me know your "home sick" rate and I'll gladly cut you a check in the morning Wink

Seriously, THANK YOU.

I was hoping one of the many guys on here that are more knowledgable could answer my silly question....it's appreciated.

The memory I bought is: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224

I will up it again and see if it wants to remain stable. And I do it in the bios...not the SW.

Go take some Theraflu...you're alot nicer than I when I have the flu. My wife will barley speak to me when I am sick...again, thank you.

edit:
Oh, do you know if there is a thermal diode within the sticks? Is that something I care about?


There is no thermal sensor on consumer grade memory product

Someone else here I think is running that same memory at 1T so you can try it in a clock but its unstable you may need to set it back to 2T and in a clock you must also raise Vcore

How high Vcore goes depends on how high the clock and if you have good CPU cooling. 80c as read in RealTemp 2.90 is the max under a FULL CPU load

Also, DISABLE CPU HT or HyperThreading
Now do keep this in mind... you only need DRAM 1.65 and QPI/DRAM at 1.35 if you intend to clock, otherwise that can come down to DRAM 1.62 and QPI/DRAM to 1.25
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 10:07pm

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Opppss.. that may be 1.30 QPI/DRAM if not clocked

It varies with the memory product. Some run a very low QPI and others tend to run it hotter
 
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Reply #6 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 10:31pm

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me? a former gaucho?

LOL

no... I'm not even from that part of the world!

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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2009 at 10:54pm

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SubZer0 wrote on Jan 11th, 2009 at 10:31pm:
me? a former gaucho?

LOL

no... I'm not even from that part of the world!

Grin



Ok, a Gaucho is a UCSB (Santa Barbara) thing. His name is Andy and I thought he moved back to Tampa area...owell!!
 

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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 3:49am

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Your question about O&O defrag is yes it can be used on vista 64 but be sure to get Version 8.6 or 11 because these are the only versions compatible to vista. Here is a thread created by Nick to tell you how to optimize your system and on his third post on how to use O&O defrag.

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973
 
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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2009 at 11:22pm

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thank you...i read that not too long ago...gave me a headach...No offense Nick....that is just alot to take in. I'm going to wait a few days for my juevos to get bigger than I'll do it.
 

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