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Reply #15 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 8:56am

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just tried the 1800... no good

I'm quite happy with this overclock though. I just have to be sure that my system will last as long as expected  Grin
 
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Reply #16 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 9:53am

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as long as temps and voltages are in spec, its fine
 
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Reply #17 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 12:36pm

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that's it then. OC done with this new system.


thanks so much for all your help Nick, you rock dude!


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Reply #18 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 2:12pm

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one last thing to clear up Nick


on a x64 bit operating system (XP), do I need to have this edit done for 4+ gb ram?

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Browse to CONTROL PANEL - SYSTEM - ADVANCED TAB - PERFORMANCE BUTTON - ADVANCED TAB - VIRTUAL MEMORY – CHANGE BUTTON

First we must clear the system of the old page file and build a new one. Select NO PAGING FILE, the SET and OK then APPLY. Close the System Properties box and you will be asked to reboot, select YES and reboot.


In some cases the old page file will remain on the hard drive. We want to delete that file before we rebuild a new one.

Go to C:\ and se if the following file is there in the root directory: pagefile.sys

If it is, right click and delete it.


Browse to CONTROL PANEL - SYSTEM - ADVANCED TAB - PERFORMANCE BUTTON - ADVANCED TAB - VIRTUAL MEMORY – CHANGE BUTTON

Rebuild the page file:

Select the drive Windows is installed on in the top list, then...

Place a bullet in CUSTOM SIZE then enter the following in BOTH MIN and MAX boxes: 3072


The page file ALWAYS goes on the boot drive with WindowsXP. Never move it.

Click SET then OK and the next box click APPLY and OK to close it.

The system may ask you to reboot, select YES

 
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Reply #19 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 2:21pm

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SubZer0 wrote on Jan 7th, 2009 at 12:36pm:
that's it then. OC done with this new system.


thanks so much for all your help Nick, you rock dude!


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No problem

Andy after a bit of a break in period you may want to remove the 120 and reseat it. At the same time when you remove it try to keep it steady as it is unscrewed from the 4 mounts and pull it strait up so you can observe any marks on the proc left by the heatsink and the thermal compound.

Your powers of observation will have to kick in but look to see if it seems like the heatsink was sitting flush on the slug. If it looks like there is a high or low spot that may explain higher temps

Now, I do not want you to do anything to the HS or the proc because that will void the warranty.. (like overclocking doesn't  LOL) but I personally do a lap job on my processor and heatsinks to be sure they are flat.

The 120 is NOT easy to do because of its size. Its very cumbersome to try and hold the unit strait over sandpaper on a flat glass surface with my fingers passed through the pipes at the base and get my palm over the base to slide the unit flat back and forth. I use water and wet-type automotive sandpaper for that part becasue the water acts like a lube and makes it easier to sand, but its a real PITA.

The processor is much easier to sand flat and there are tutorials around that show how its done. You do not need to sand them to a mirror finish.. its not necessary. The goal is to get them flat with the tin and nickel removed down to copper, and, to get rid of any large grain marks but a pure mirror reflective finish is not necessary.

there are risks when you do things like that too.

However I have usually found a good 5-10c difference in making sure the contact between the HS and the processor is flat and as much surface as possible on both are making contact.

I don’t do that till about a month or so after initial use to be sure everything is working and stable prior to doing it. I have yet to trash a processor that way but like anything else in life, it is a risk.

One thing you do need to be aware of is even just taking a few layers of material off the proc and HS and getting them down to flat copper can make the distance between them further slightly. I used a washer made out of high impact fiber to act as a spacer to tighten the gap between the top of the HS plate and the X bracket center. The hole in the washer acts as center guide to the screw in the X bracket.

The newer 120 units I am told do not have gap issues however its something you need to observe and decide about

Those are just suggestions for you to consider.


 
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Reply #20 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 3:32pm

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hello Nick,

as you know, I'm in south FL and the outside temps now are high enough.. ambient temps in the house are about 70-72 fahrenheit so that does help to keep it cool a little, but in the summer time the temps will shoot up and the processor might get a little hotter. I'm very worried about that. I will take your advice (and the risk) on flattening those surfaces for better contact and hopefully that will lower my temps for the summer. I will go ahead and wait a month and take it apart again and work on that project. thanks for that advice



as for the x64 OS, do I need that page file edit or am I to leave that default as it's a x64 OS and can already use all 6GB of the mem? I did it already because it's on your OS setup guide, but I just want to make sure about this as I want that memory to be working as good as possible



thanks,

Andy
 
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Reply #21 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 5:12pm

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SubZer0 wrote on Jan 7th, 2009 at 3:32pm:
hello Nick,

as you know, I'm in south FL and the outside temps now are high enough.. ambient temps in the house are about 70-72 fahrenheit so that does help to keep it cool a little, but in the summer time the temps will shoot up and the processor might get a little hotter. I'm very worried about that. I will take your advice (and the risk) on flattening those surfaces for better contact and hopefully that will lower my temps for the summer. I will go ahead and wait a month and take it apart again and work on that project. thanks for that advice



as for the x64 OS, do I need that page file edit or am I to leave that default as it's a x64 OS and can already use all 6GB of the mem? I did it already because it's on your OS setup guide, but I just want to make sure about this as I want that memory to be working as good as possible



thanks,

Andy


Page file?

I just want to make sure we are on the same page... you are talking about the 3072-3072 static page file setting, correct?

Yes, you should do that just to be sure any program you may install that might complain of the page file not existing does not give you grief. Adobe Acrobat Professional was known for doing that hoever I do not know if they changed the program recently to stop that.

With 6GB of memory and a 64bit OS as long as you do not have any software that would complain about the page file being too small (even though the program would never use it) you CAN reduce that to a minimum size. Windows will tell you what that minimum should be in the settings for the page file

...

and set the system for a MINIMAL MEMORY DUMP in the event of a crash:

...


That will allow you to still get blue screens and dump reports in the event of a crash

 
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Reply #22 - Jan 7th, 2009 at 6:12pm

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alright. I had it done already and made sure all the other settings you posted were as they should be. all is good now. thanks  Wink
 
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