Simviation Forum - Real or fake?

Reply #30 - Dec 31^st, 2008 at 3:39am

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ShaneG wrote on Dec 26^th, 2008 at 2:05pm:

But there is no dust from them either is the point. And the airbus didn't even rock the small planes as it blasted by.

They're flying over runways, not fine desert sand. I have sat next to runways in Hawaii while C-17's did touch and goes and didn't feel even the slightest breeze, but I have also boarded and gotten off of C-17's via rear cargo ramp while the engines were running and the jetblast was very intense (and friggin hot!!) The two you posted were real obviously, I'm still calling Bull on the KC135.

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Reply #31 - Dec 31^st, 2008 at 7:16am

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BigTruck wrote on Dec 31^st, 2008 at 3:39am:

They're flying over runways, not fine desert sand. I have sat next to runways in Hawaii while C-17's did touch and goes and didn't feel even the slightest breeze, but I have also boarded and gotten off of C-17's via rear cargo ramp while the engines were running and the jetblast was very intense (and friggin hot!!) The two you posted were real obviously, I'm still calling Bull on the KC135.

One time we were sitting on the hotpad waiting for a C-141 to park. He overshot the stop mark a bit and as we were just about to get out of our truck when Mr. pilot decided he had to be exactly on the mark and he proceeds to engage the thrust reversers and trottle up. We're sitting in this Dodge 1-ton pickup and it's rocking and feeling like it's gonna blow over, all the while that's going on there's also all this of debris bouncing bouncing off it. And the noise? WOW! Shocked

Didn't know a plane that large could back up until that day. Grin

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Reply #32 - Jan 11^th, 2009 at 10:58am

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BigTruck wrote on Dec 31^st, 2008 at 3:39am:

ShaneG wrote on Dec 26^th, 2008 at 2:05pm:

But there is no dust from them either is the point. And the airbus didn't even rock the small planes as it blasted by.

They're flying over runways, not fine desert sand. I have sat next to runways in Hawaii while C-17's did touch and goes and didn't feel even the slightest breeze, but I have also boarded and gotten off of C-17's via rear cargo ramp while the engines were running and the jetblast was very intense (and friggin hot!!) The two you posted were real obviously, I'm still calling Bull on the KC135.

The C-17's winglets are designed to minimize wingtip vortices, so thats why you probablly didn't feel much. However the KC-135 would produce significantly more wake turbulence, even though in the video it is going fast in a clean configuration. I am also calling BS on the -135 video. That plane should look WAY bigger than it actually does, no matter what kind of camera is being used. Look at the TAP A310 video, that plane looks big.

Interesting to hear people's thoughts though.

Take a look at this one:
Watch it first without reading the comments... real or fake? Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJ8rIEPLOo

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Reply #33 - Jan 11^th, 2009 at 3:47pm

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Take a look at this one:
Watch it first without reading the comments... real or fake?

Obviously fake, nicely done though...um...History Channel?
On the KC-135 vid there are simply to many discrepancies (not enough dust, the moving shadow, size for distance, no movement of the underbrush). I'm still calling it fake.

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