Simviation Forum - First Suzuki, now Subaru...

Dec 16^th, 2008 at 5:58am

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Both have now pulled out of WRC. Oh dear.

Do Prodrive still operate the Subaru outfit? If so, I wonder if they could spare a bit of budget and buy Honda's F1 team. Grin

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Reply #1 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 6:25am

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Yes they do.
And I think this actually has more to do with the FIA's decision to switch to the S2000 cars for I think 2010. Which would mean Subaru would have to design a completely new car, less than 2 years after already spending huge amounts on the new Impreza.
The economy is a good excuse to do it with few questions asked.

As a side thing Sebastian Loeb has said he'll quit if they went with the S2000 cars, lets see if he's a man of his word. To be fair though there is a chance he could end up in F1, he's a little old, but was very impressive in his test, red bull might take a look in 2010.

And Peugot and citroen are both rumored to be looking at buying the Honda team.

I think that about covers the latest news of anything slightly related to. Rallying, subaru, and Pro drive. Grin

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Reply #2 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 7:47am

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Craig. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 6:25am:

To be fair though there is a chance he could end up in F1, he's a little old, but was very impressive in his test, red bull might take a look in 2010.

How many times have we heard that before. McRae, Rossi, Loeb... I suspect Mateschitz Enterprises have more than enough good track drivers. I never see these tests as anything more than guaranteed publicity on the web and on the pages of Autosport.

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Reply #3 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 10:49am

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What are S2000 cars, another "standard" that the FIA use??

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Reply #4 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 11:18am

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expat wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 10:49am:

What are S2000 cars, another "standard" that the FIA use??

Matt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_2000

S2000 seems to cover racing and rallying - WTCC and BTCC are both S2000 series:

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FIA specifications include the following:

Derived from production model, of which 2500 have been produced in the past year
Maximum of 2 liter (2000 cc) displacement
Normal Aspiration, 8500 rpm maximum for 4 cylinders, 8750 rpm maximum for 5 cylinders, 9000 rpm maximum for 6 cylinders.
All wheel drive is permitted in rally cars, but not in touring cars.
6-speed sequential gearbox (Control specification), or 5-speed MT gearbox retaining original gear ratios.
Front and rear McPherson suspension
No electronic driver aids
Must be for sale at a maximum price of €168,000.

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Reply #5 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 2:15pm

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Craig. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 6:25am:

And Peugot and citroen are both rumored to be looking at buying the Honda team.

That I'd love to see... Air suspension, a badge on the steering wheel that stays horizontal..even on full lock.. and, if my work van is anything to go by, bits of interior and bodywork falling off on the grid Grin

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Reply #6 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 3:17pm

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Craig. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 6:25am:

And Peugot and citroen are both rumored to be looking at buying the Honda team.

That I'd love to see... Air suspension, a badge on the steering wheel that stays horizontal..even on full lock.. and, if my work van is anything to go by, bits of interior and bodywork falling off on the grid Grin

...and a paint scheme based on the 2CV Dolly.

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Reply #7 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 7:15pm

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C wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 3:17pm:

Quote:

Craig. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 6:25am:

And Peugot and citroen are both rumored to be looking at buying the Honda team.

That I'd love to see... Air suspension, a badge on the steering wheel that stays horizontal..even on full lock.. and, if my work van is anything to go by, bits of interior and bodywork falling off on the grid Grin

...and a paint scheme based on the 2CV Dolly.

Not forgetting a pit crew that goes on strike every second race and blockades the paddock Grin

Matt

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Reply #8 - Dec 16^th, 2008 at 7:26pm

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expat wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 7:15pm:

C wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 3:17pm:

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Craig. wrote on Dec 16^th, 2008 at 6:25am:

And Peugot and citroen are both rumored to be looking at buying the Honda team.

That I'd love to see... Air suspension, a badge on the steering wheel that stays horizontal..even on full lock.. and, if my work van is anything to go by, bits of interior and bodywork falling off on the grid Grin

...and a paint scheme based on the 2CV Dolly.

Not forgetting a pit crew that goes on strike every second race and blockades the paddock Grin

Matt

The car would also need a redesign to resemble a snail too. And of course, being open top, it would be a "Pluriel".

Probably get 4 years interest free credit too.

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Reply #9 - Dec 17^th, 2008 at 8:32am

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As if by magic:

Prodrive Chief may turn to F1

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Richards was axed by Honda when it took over BAR in 2004, and has not ruled out a takeover of the troubled F1 team.

Richards, a former Benetton boss, is thought to be one of the parties interested in taking over the Honda team - after the Japanese company pulled out of F1 because of financial reasons.

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