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Reply #15 - Jan 12th, 2009 at 1:44am

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Hagar wrote on Jan 7th, 2009 at 9:22am:
RitterKreuz wrote on Jan 7th, 2009 at 9:05am:
Glad i live in the southern United States.

When a high pressure system sets in, its not uncommon to have clear blue skies in 500 miles for any direction.

of course when soggy weather sets in, it can stay for a few days  Undecided

I've visited the southern US several times. Apart from the hurricane season the weather seems far more settled & predictable than it is here.

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Does the weather where you live prevent instrument flight?

even the soggy weather around here wont always prevent you from doing an ILS or VOR approach

Not always but it depends where you're going. I'm wondering what percentage of private pilots in the USA have an Instrument rating.

I live in the south of the country which has pretty reasonable weather but conditions can vary considerably over a relatively short distance. For example; I went to the New Year's Day fly-in at Popham in Hampshire. Local conditions were fine but less than 50 miles north where a lot of the expected visitors are based was clagged right in. A lot of these aircraft & pilots are VFR only. It was the same story just a few miles south over the Solent which prevented aircraft based on the Isle of Wight from taking off. Even those that did come were faced with the possibility that they wouldn't be able to return home that same day. It's not only the visibility as we often get strong winds along the coast which affect the safe operation of light aircraft, especially high-wing types like the Cessna 172.


It's a good point... most cancelled flights in light aircraft, VFR and IFR, result in the pilot driving home from the aiport- or to the intended destination-  in the same weather... Grin the bottom line is that for me, there is weather I will drive in that I will not fly in.

But all of that aside, adressing the question of which is a more useful luxury, so to speak, I think airplanes beat cars and boats, overall... at least for trips of over 100 miles.

The vast majority of planned fights get completed more or lss as planned, and the ones that aren't are offset, I think,  by being able to go at high speed more economically, in a straight line, with no red lights. Grin
Much less traffic, too... Grin

More stringent inspection requirements and the huge liability mark-up for parts and service can lead to high maintenance bills, but I'd imagine a visit to the mechanic with a $250,000 car would be pretty scary, too.

As for boats: even less convenient than planes, and everything about boating costs more (assuming we'e talking power boats of comparable price). They swill fuel, there's not anywhere near as many places you can take them, they cost more to park or store, maintenance can be very expensive, and there's definitely been times when I was aloft in winds well within my limits when I'd look down at the water and think "sure glad I'm not out in a boat today..." Grin
 

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Reply #16 - Nov 21st, 2009 at 6:27am

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Regarding really expensive cars - what about Koenigsegg Trevita?

http://www.luxist.com/2009/11/11/worlds-most-expensive-supercar-diamond-carbon-k...

The same size and engines like the ordinary black carbonfibre Koenigsegg (US$ 2 million) or ordinary metal Koenigsegg CCXR (US$ 1 million). All that differs is the colour. It is white and sparkling, but not real diamonds.

For the US$ 4 million that the bodyshell costs over the ordinary CCXR, you could buy about 3600 ounces of gold. Which is about 110 kg. Goldfinger used to drive cars with golden body panels. Those are probably more expensive than Trevita.

Metal gold is not the best for all technological purposes. It is heavy and soft, unlike light and stiff carbon fibres. Then again, it is completely corrosion-proof and thanks to its softness, can be plastically wrought with less danger of cracking than copper.

Would you use metal gold in electrical wiring? (This would assure that your electrical wires will not corrode in salt water - you can drive your car in salt water like some idiot did with a Veyron in Texas, and after washing the salt out with fresh water and letting dry, the car might be as new...) Or what about the tubing of radiator?

But while gold itself is safe from corrosion, I am not quite sure whether it promotes electrolytic corrosion of metals in contact with gold.

US$ 4 millions also is about 220 000 ounces of silver, or about 6800 kg. Koenigseggs are worth their weight in silver.

Or those US$ 4 millions could buy a brand new Cessna Citation CJ1+. Empty weight about 3200 kg.

Are the diamond carbon fibre panels stronger and lighter than ordinary carbon fibre panels? No. Are they more resistant to corrosion than ordinary carbon fibre? Again no. Their sole advantage is better looks. It could as well be a paintjob.

Even an ordinary Koenigsegg, at say US$ 1 million, is worth as much as 1700 kg silver - and weighs only 1300 kg. So all Koenigseggs cost more than their weight in silver - and Trevita costs several times more.

Where is the value for money in a supercar (not limousine, a two-seater) priced in several millions US$? I suppose there are advantages of, say, newbuilt A380 Flying Palace over an old 747-200 refurbished, but what about cars?

If your most expensive plane is worth US$ 30 000, e. g. secondhand Kitfox, how much would you spend on your most expensive car?

How much would your most expensive car cost if your most expensive plane cost US$ 300 000 (like brand new Cessna 172)? Or US$ 3 000 000 (like Cessna Citation Mustang)? Or US$ 30 000 000 (like Dassault Falcon 2000)? Or US$ 300 000 000 (like an A380 Flying Palace or B747-800 BBJ)?
 
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Reply #17 - Jan 18th, 2010 at 2:10pm

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Veyron costs a lot to maintain:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/17/bugatti-veyron-running-costs-so-spendy-cheape...

Which jets are cheaper to run than a Veyron? And how does the cost of pelican insurance compare?
 
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