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Reply #90 - May 23rd, 2009 at 5:02pm

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Lets get a look at that error.

It makes no sense this tower is blue screening unless

1. corrupt install happened on the wrong BIOS settings.. but you said the voltages were correct before making the other changes in the BIOS.

2. some kind of hardware failure

3. Some kind of driver conflict

 
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Reply #91 - May 23rd, 2009 at 8:07pm

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Nick,

We are not on the same page, the previous post I did with the BIOS settings were ones that i DID change per your request, although it still bluescreened.

Would it still bluescreen even after I changed the settings if the OS install went bad?

I will try and get the error duplicated nonetheless.
 

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Reply #92 - May 23rd, 2009 at 8:09pm

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ONe more thing:

If you can give me a Final checklist to do tomorrow when I get back that would be great! I will make sure to follow it to a T.
 

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Reply #93 - May 24th, 2009 at 10:45am

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I cant fathom why this system would be unstable on the settings I posted.The only difference between what I posted and a overclock, is Vcore (CPU Voltage) and BCLOCK

With all other settings I listed, set your CPU voltage manually to 1.22

If this is still unstable.. get the blue screen error message and post it.

you cant re-install a Windows OS on flaky hardware and we dont know whats going on so at that point you will need to download MEMTEST  v2.11, and make a DOS boot disk with it.

http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

Boot the system with that disk (test automatically starts) and let it run 5 full back to back test passes (probably take a few hours)

IF you get Errors (will appear in RED on the screen) you can halt the test.. go into the BIOS and reset it to setup defaults (exit screen.. load setup defaults) and reboot and test the memory


If you are still getting errors then it sounds to me like defective memory in play


 
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Reply #94 - May 24th, 2009 at 3:41pm

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Nick,

BSOD INFO:

It gives me the usual part on top the

Technical Information:

***STOP" 0x0000007E (0xffffffffc0000005, 0xfffff9800096b7cb, 0xfffff9800149a928, goes off screen to right

*** NETIO.SYS - Address FFFFF 9800096b7CB Base at FFFFF980095c000


Please note that once i started the machine up this was the first time i was trying to download Vista SP1.

Also, I did install my memory cards as per the Asus Manuals instructions for 3 sticks. It tells you which slots they go in.

I really hope this helps. Let me know if i should run that bios test.

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Reply #95 - May 24th, 2009 at 3:54pm

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This sounds like a VISTA SERVICE PACK issue with a 3rd party network adapter driver


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950570

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/934611


your copy of Visa does not come with SP1??

You may be fighiting a VISTA problem... get the BIOS set back to default and try and run this system so the BSOD does not appear and YES, GET SP1 installed

see if it clears


also.. try uninstalling any NETWORK adapter drivers and see if it clears

The error you posted does appear to be a MS issue with Vista and the NIC drivers.. the fact you said it looked like someing on the NET on webpages was causing it earlier would be a clue


You cant even begin to do anything until Vista SP1 and all updates after SP1 are installed from Windows update and this gets sorted



Get SP1 installed...  if it is still doing it after that we will look at the HOTFIX they offer



You can download Vista SP1 here too and put it on disk from another computer to install local

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=874A414B-32B2-41CC-BD8B...
 
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Reply #96 - May 24th, 2009 at 9:21pm

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SP 1 and a windows recomended update for my network car/graphics card I appear to be operating great with now BSODS (for not at least). What do i do next? I want to make sure we get everything normal, including BIOS (i am pretty sure everything is as you wanted it from before) any key items to double check.


I also want to dump the FSX hardrive and start from scratch. A simple reformat from within windows should do the trick correct?
 

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Reply #97 - May 24th, 2009 at 10:03pm

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good

OK so now you are stable and no BSOD's..  lets assume that is all it was and everything is fine

Yes, reformat the FSX drive and tell the system to use the 64K flie allocation... it should offer that when you select FORMAT from the Drive management console.. I don’t remember if Vista will allow that from My Computer.

Drive Management is located through Admin Tools in the control panel.

Get everything installed and then you can go down this list for Vista:

click the 2nd link in this post and then go down the list I posted and only disable/set the items I listed. The 2nd link sends you to the site for the directions to perform each step

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=30437&PID=174126#174126


make sure all the items I listed are disabled through the link(s) I provided. Those are the same as my XP list but for VISTA.

When ever you are instructed to shut down a SERVICE always use this method:

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=30437&PID=174127#174127


There are a few items from my XP list that are not listed there. You can look at the XP list here:

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973/0#0

and see which ones you did not do and perform those too but note the items I said to NOT do with Vista and skip them. You will recognize the ones you already did from above.. some services in my XP list will not be listed in Vista, some will. Just nail the ones that match

Cleaning out the temp folders will be different.. the paths will not be the same. I do not have those paths right in front of me.

Install FSX using this list:

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=29041

the install order is listed there for SP1/SP2 or Acceleration

setup of Nhancer is next. Use video driver 182.50 from Nvidia and make sure its for Vista x64

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_182.50_whql.html

whenever you change a video driver.. uninstall from add and remove program.. reboot. Install new driver, reboot... when at the desktop wait 2 minutes and reboot again.. then proceed to set up Nhancer 2.5.1 via my tuning list and the settings shown for PROFILE and GLOBAL


we do NOT do any defrag maintenance which will take some hours until everything is installed.. OS, programs, FSX and addons.. everything

FSX Tuning comes next and I can give you some fast pointers on that when ready

last is clocking and testing for max temp


then FSX is trimmed.. and you are on your way



this is a tool we will be using to verify your CPU and memory speed later... download and install it

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz/cpuz_151_setup.exe


 
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Reply #98 - May 24th, 2009 at 11:54pm

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ok reformatted in 64k clusters. I am installing FSX right now per your guidelines. Can you please confirm that once i get sp1/2 I do not tune the sim until i get through the OS, programs, FSX/addons and defrag?
 

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Reply #99 - May 25th, 2009 at 12:09am

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Nick,

After install it says "Scenery.cfg file error" "local scenery directory (addon scenery/Scenery) in scenery area.115 not found. click ok to continue."

Thoughts?
 

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Reply #100 - May 25th, 2009 at 12:26am

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G1000Pilot wrote on May 25th, 2009 at 12:09am:
Nick,

After install it says "Scenery.cfg file error" "local scenery directory (addon scenery/Scenery) in scenery area.115 not found. click ok to continue."

Thoughts?



acceleration installed? or just SP2?

I have seen this before.. somethin wipes out the RENO area (115) in FSX but I never did find out what caused it.. is this a fresh FSX install with no other addons? Nothing past FSX installed or uninstalled?

I always suspected it was some freaking addon scenery or aircraft from the internet that was doing this but its so rare to see I have never found the cause.


That may be a problem.. let me know if you have acceleration because the reno area is replaced by it




You do not tune the sim till after the defrags and that does not happen till everything is installed

You can do some basics in the FSX.cfg.. and setup for FSX

see the FSX.cfg section of the tuning thread for the exact lines

Texture_Bandwidth set to 80
Wide screen.. if you have one set it to TRUE if not leave it false

Disable preload =1 <--- added under the MAIN section

we will look at bufferpools later.. dont add that yet.. save and close the FSX.cfg

Open FSX..


Scroll down till you see the images of the FSX settings... set yours up exactly as I posted and make sure everything is the same, except set your AL and GA traffic to 30 (both), set cars to 8 and set autogen level to VERY DENSE.. everything else exactly, including the checkboxes.

Set your frame lock to 28 and set the resolution of your monitor.

REALISM button.. dropdown select HARD then set PFactor slider to 50%.. .the settings on the opposite side of the sliders such as collisions and fuel you can set as needed

close FSX


I bet that tunes you damn close.. none the less you cant really judge anything till its defraged


I need to hit the sack.. will check back tomorrow
 
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Reply #101 - May 25th, 2009 at 12:39am

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by the way.. if you installed UTX or any other scenery addon that changes the FSX scenery.cfg you may need to run the interface of that software to repair the config

I dont know what has happened but if you have not figured it out post back and we can try a tool to repair it

http://home.earthlink.net/~smgreenwood/downloads/fsscenery.zip
 
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Reply #102 - May 25th, 2009 at 12:42am

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I figured it out Nick! I guess I re-installed it as a repair. You have to uninstall the SP2 version, and then the regular version appeared! I uninstalled both of those and I am not reformatting the drive again as a precaution. After I get all of that in I with SP1/2 I will download Active Sky Xtreme, REX, Ext...
 

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Reply #103 - May 25th, 2009 at 11:13am

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ahhh.. that'al do it.. we dont want to repair install..  you do need to make sure the SPs and FSX itself is correctly uninstalled from Windows before wiping and starting clean

good,.. so you are back on track
 
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Reply #104 - May 25th, 2009 at 1:56pm

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Nick,

This puppy is FAST!!!! I can just feel the power of it! It really pays to do this right.

Ok so here is where we are at:

1) FSX Is installed with sp1/2, I verified Direct X and added the C++

2)This afternoon I will install the addons
         - If i want the captain sim 757, should i do this now or can this wait?

3) OS optimization begins with the provided posts.

4) I will then get the driver for the GC you recommended as well as Nhancer.

5) OO Defrag

6) FSX Tuning begins

How does this sound?
 

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