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Reply #180 - Jun 1st, 2009 at 10:15pm

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you would probably do better if the tower had more airflow however the idea behind the chiller is to inject cold air into the tower so flushing air through with the chiller running would somewhat defeat the purpose. Those chillers do work but it requires the right envionment for them to actually cool. At the same time it may not be enough to overcome a i7 which I dont think that tower was really designed for.

you must also remember you are only full load testing the proc too.. add in the load on the video card in 3D and it may get warmer.

You can use REALTEMP to do a MIN/MAX test while in FSX for a long period to check that too
 
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Reply #181 - Jun 1st, 2009 at 10:16pm

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Plugpennyshadow wrote on Jun 1st, 2009 at 9:39pm:
NickN wrote on Jun 1st, 2009 at 9:28pm:
Plugpennyshadow wrote on Jun 1st, 2009 at 9:26pm:
NickN wrote on Dec 8th, 2008 at 8:41am:
1080 is actually lower resolution than FSX wants to run and I have heard of people doing that and it works however you may need do a bit of settings work for it to run right... the drivers need to be set up for HDTV display


Ive been running my 8800GTX into my Westinghouse TV for a year now.  With Vista x32 I had some issues with it.  It wouldnt take in some resolutions, blurries in Windows and FSX and such.  

Vista x64 seems to fire the TV up with no problems.  FSX runs and looks great as set up by the Nick numbers.  All resolutions in windows work with no problems.  Why might Vista x64 behave better for the TV as a monitor and Vista x32 not?

The Bad Penny Strikes!


Could it be at the time you did not have all the patches for Vista or the same NV drivers?

Actually consider yourself lucky if you are getting a good clean non-shimmering image on a TV screen with Vista. I went through that with Flight1 trying to set up a big screen display for a demo and we had to upgrade to XP x64 to get the demo on wide screen TV clean




Come to think of it, I wasnt running NHancer for the game.  Guess that addresses the difference between x32 and x64 for the gameplay, but would it affect general Windows usage?


no, Nhancer is D3D9 only
 
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Reply #182 - Jun 1st, 2009 at 10:54pm

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the QPI does not have a 3600 option is starts at 7218. thoughts?
 

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Reply #183 - Jun 1st, 2009 at 11:03pm

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for now we are at 3.8Ghz 1.20V pending a new case and shorter memory down the road! I like that it is running mid 60C's and stable at a low voltage. I will keep trying to lower the voltage, and i am not opposed to trying 4!

now lets see how well this helped out FSX


p.s. let me know if you need a beta tester for GEX Euro!
 

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Reply #184 - Jun 1st, 2009 at 11:35pm

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G1000Pilot wrote on Jun 1st, 2009 at 10:54pm:
the QPI does not have a 3600 option is starts at 7218. thoughts?



really?

7200/2 = 3600   Smiley  I didnt mention that part?   shame on me!  Cool

the rule with QPI is keep it at or under 4000 (8000 in the BIOS setting)



darn strait.. try 4GHz.. you may have gotten a 940 that will do 4Ghz @ 1.28v..   why do you think I pushed you into the 940 over the kiddie 920s??  Cheesy
 
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Reply #185 - Jun 1st, 2009 at 11:45pm

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I haft'a call it a night.. this old engineer is pooped

Will check back tomorrow after 18 holes and I get going on GEX work

I tee-off about an hour after dawn since the first hole starts just outside my back door
 
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Reply #186 - Jun 2nd, 2009 at 11:17am

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NickN wrote on Jun 1st, 2009 at 11:35pm:
G1000Pilot wrote on Jun 1st, 2009 at 10:54pm:
the QPI does not have a 3600 option is starts at 7218. thoughts?



really?

7200/2 = 3600   Smiley  I didnt mention that part?   shame on me!  Cool

the rule with QPI is keep it at or under 4000 (8000 in the BIOS setting)



darn strait.. try 4GHz.. you may have gotten a 940 that will do 4Ghz @ 1.28v..   why do you think I pushed you into the 940 over the kiddie 920s??  Cheesy



Well I did figure that was the case! I figured I would rather error on the side of safety and wait haha. I will try it with these settings tonight!

I have been trying to make it out to the golf course for over a month now Sad  Working in the financial industry has been time consuming (to say the least) over the past few months!

An airplane for the firm is in sight though  Grin

p.s.  I am now learning the "you get what you pay for" as far as a FSX system is concerned. The 940 is sweet, the GC GTX285 Super clocked edition, and the ASUS OC PALM MB work in perfect harmony. The OC Palm feature is sweet for monitoring my temps and once in cruise I can lower my Base and Voltage without exiting the sim!

My conclusion:

LISTEN TO NICK GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who thinks we can get 4ghz tonight  Cheesy
 

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Reply #187 - Jun 2nd, 2009 at 11:40am

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You may find that 940 is running 4GHz like the new 950's will at much lower vCPU.

It looks like you cap out at right around 1.35v with the airflow in that tower so lets see what happens. I have seen 940 i7s run 4Ghz @ 1.28 in the past

and after all is said and done you can get a futher perf boost by securing memory that runs lower timing. In a few months the 6-6-6 products will be much cheaper and that would be a boost in smoothness for you

 
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Reply #188 - Jun 2nd, 2009 at 10:22pm

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Nick,

I am in the i7 4ghz club! It looses stability after 1.325V but my temps are in comfort range here hovering around 75C at full load.

WOO HOO! I think I need to up the water effects from low 2x and put in the framelock now!

Even with the HD clouds it is running like a champ, although I have not fully tested the captain sim 757 yet
 

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Reply #189 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:29am

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G1000Pilot wrote on Jun 2nd, 2009 at 10:22pm:
Nick,

I am in the i7 4ghz club! It looses stability after 1.325V but my temps are in comfort range here hovering around 75C at full load.

WOO HOO! I think I need to up the water effects from low 2x and put in the framelock now!

Even with the HD clouds it is running like a champ, although I have not fully tested the captain sim 757 yet


I would not boost water shader level unless you like issues at large hubs in urban areas

But thats up to you

OK so if you are now at 4G stable and running 75c with OCCT then you will never see that temp with FSX running. OCCT will load that CPU down to the max which FSX wont do

At this point and assuming you have tuned the sim to your liking and its running good, the only other tweak that may serve purpose over large amounts of autogen trees is bufferpools

Now, i7 tends to display more stutter issues flying over large amounts of trees than Intel procs of the past and there is a reason for that which will be cured with a next step up in video card tech not on the market as of yet.. so for right now there is only 2 ways to deal with the issue assuming the sim is correctly tuned

1. Drop the autogen slider a notch

2. Set a bufferpool level <-- does not work for all systems

Before you add bufferpools.. note, its NOT a framerate tweak.. its for stutters only and you will only see the result of its use in action over VERY large amounts of trees and buildings so if you are running smooth right now you DO NOT need to add it to the config file!

If you find you need to try it then add the following to the end of the fsx.cfg list

[BUFFERPOOLS]
Poolsize=X

Value for it we can try a few different ones and see what happens..

Start with

80000000

or 80MB

if that nets none or a better result but not quite right, raise it to

100000000

or 100MB

If still no result or it gets better but not quite right, raise it again to

200000000

or 200MB

There is really no reason to go any higher as I have not come across any card that if bufferpools is going to help/work 200MB is more than enough.

There is only one other circumstance whereby a higher bufferpool level would be used and that is if you are getting constant sound crackle issues in the audio with FSX and high autogen slider settings. If that were the case the value to try would be 490000000 or 490MB otherwise a value that high would not be used

Now be aware.. bufferpools set high can invoke black 'spikes' coming from the autogen as you pan around the aircraft. If you see that visual anomaly and it does not clear up after you pan around the aircraft several times after initial flight load then the BP level is too high and must be reduced.


Thats really about it.. remember that i7 and a 285 is not a 'free ticket' to a 100% autogen and water shader slider. the settings I posted in the tuning thread and the suggestions that go with them should be adhered to. For you I can see the autogen slider being set to 100% in a lot of places however VERY DENSE would still probably be more reasonable.

If you add any large addons to the sim you really should re-run a single NAME defrag after that install. If you add something small its not necessary to defrag and can wait till the next regualr mantainance period

And do be aware since you are running FSX from a separate disk you should not need to NAME defrag other than about once every month or two unless you install something into the sim during that period. The disk will stay clean becuase FSX is not located on the same partition as the OS.




Make sure to check your tower every so often for dust building up.. keep it clean.


If you have any other questions let me know

EDIT: frame lock.. set to 28 or 30
 
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Reply #190 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:35am

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Thanks man! And I will post those pics of CPU tabs.

What do you use to keep the tower clean? The sprayer for electronics? I keep it on top of my desk at any rate
 

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Reply #191 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:37am

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G1000Pilot wrote on Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:35am:
Thanks man! And I will post those pics of CPU tabs.

What do you use to keep the tower clean? The sprayer for electronics? I keep it on top of my desk at any rate



they sell cans of compressed air at home depot or radio shack.. I also use a old toothbrush to get into spots like fans and the fins on heatsinks to break up dust and then use the canned air to blow it out.. and blow through the video card heatsink

...last just a small vacuum to suck up anything thats left over loose on the bottom of the tower

of course thats all done with the tower unplugged from the wall

yea.. we can go ahead and verify your specs in CPUz but if you set it as I posted you must be running correctly.. good to verify though

 
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Reply #192 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:47am

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just some FYI:

when i boosted the water settings it really did KILL me. Everything else is maxed out (per your FSX tuning Post) and out of PANC with some cloud action i am running like silk in the CS 757

I will have more time to play around and post my settings tomorrow.
 

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Reply #193 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:49am

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I told ya so..   listen to the doctor!

LOL


OK, no problem.. late for me here anyway.. I just stopped by to check on your progress and it would appear you are pretty much in FSX bliss now

I will check back tomorrow  Wink
 
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Reply #194 - Jun 3rd, 2009 at 12:48pm

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I am having the same type of thing happen in ASA. Should I try and re-install it Nick? My clouds appear like the first two pics on the link below.

http://forums1.avsim.net/lofiversion/index.php/t239856.html
 

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