Announcement in Jan 09 I've just been told - anyone else heard it?  Apparently due to continuing 'problems.'   

When I got my business laptop a couple of months ago, the guy at my local PC World told me that M$ had already indicated to the trade that Vista should not be supplied to business customers (consequently my laptop has XP). Also that Vista was only being supplied to the general public until the next iteration came along, since XP was not being supported from the end of the year...

Don't shout at me - it's just what I was told!

Chaos.

ShaneG wrote on Nov 25^th, 2008 at 11:52am:

Windows 7 (its official code name) is based on Vista. Heart breaking, i know.

I DONT USE VISTA









I WONT USE VISTA







I CANT USE VISTA ... my basic intellect and logical engram programming wont allow such a DUMB decision to be executed

and being as connected as I am... I still get email threats from MS to change my forum posting but they are getting down right desperate at this point

Hey Nick why dont you use vista Just wondering I dont tweak as much as you and have no idea alot of the things you talk about LOL but I have had it installed for a few months and kinda like it.  Why is Vista thought of as being bad So I choose the OS to use when I put my new system together after the first of the year.

Do you really think MS would feed that puppy? Everyone knows they're kitten people!

ozzy72 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2008 at 5:52am:
oppsssyourright[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/smackabitch.jpg

NickN wrote on Nov 28^th, 2008 at 9:29am:

My thoughts exactly!


NickN wrote on Nov 28^th, 2008 at 9:29am:


This is the funniest thing I have ever seen that's related to computers!

JBaymore wrote on Nov 30^th, 2008 at 10:41pm:


Should be etched on every Jewel Case of Windows Vista?... ... ...!

F....Win  XP Pro... ...!

NickN wrote on Nov 28^th, 2008 at 9:29am:


There is a difference between making a point, and listening to 12 years old who complains about Vista before even using it and making a point.

More crashes than Nascar? I got about as many crashes a month on Vista as I did a day on XP.

Video creators = fail. Making stupid points and trying to sound funny  


(Not being anti-fun, but when you complain about things that don't really happen, it takes the mick)

Vista is indeed served. It was released at the complete wrong time, as a bloated package of code that has a decade of history. I have vista, on my new laptop, do i like it? Not really, been trying to get Ubuntu on it, but that doesnt really work either. So im stuck with it for now.

Funny fact:

I tried installing Visual Studio 2008 express, for serval languages. But it didnt. Time and time again it refused to install on a clean Vista installation. It kept spitting errors at me, and no solution found online worked. Heck, they dont even know themselves how to fix this problem. So no XNA for me...

machineman9 wrote on Dec 6^th, 2008 at 10:20am:



FACT: Vista EATS 100% more memory that XP and before service pack 1 it REMOVED 15-25% or your CPU from any running application and 10% of the CPU when the system was IDLE


I can go on and on and on

The video was meant to be fun but the overall idea it states is absolutely true


By the way.. that video was made back when Vista was released and during that time and many months after trying to use your old printer, video card, addon cards and not be forced to buy new hardware...  there were more crashes than a NASCAR rally, AND, even with new hardware like the flagship Nvidia products you got to scroll through those crash screes in wonderful 3D

When Vista was first released MS had designed it so if it did not see the 'SUPER SECRET VISTA CHIP" embeded in the hardware it would refuse to allow that hardware to run. Microsoft attepmted to take control of the hardware market

The could not give the OS away to businesses,.!

Microsoft was FORCED to remove their control and also allow people who bought computers with VISTA on them to REMOVE it and replace it with XP

I meet up with the director of Vista server development in Kirkland, WA on Friday nights every so often to chat and have a drink. Hes wanted that OS canned since the day he first saw it and was completely relieved when he learned they were trashing the OS to move on to Windows7.



So before you go off on something like that

Vista is a disaster. Maybe by SP10 they will have all the problems fixed. GOOD LORD nearly a GIG of memory being used on idle (Usually 800Mbs on startup...)
I want to get XP but I am broke So does anyone know if I contact HP (where I originally bought the computer) will they be able to send me a copy of XP or another copy of Vista to upgrade to 64bit? 32bit vista sucks bad with games...

Fly2e wrote on Dec 10^th, 2008 at 11:01am:




Dave

I edited my post in the FSX forum to include VISTA. All you can do is follow that list and at the end of the 2nd post in the thread make sure you follow the VISTA list I posted there

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973

You should probably leave automatic updates running for a business system though.


and yes, VISTA requires 2.5-3GB of memory to allow the same as XP

If the VISTA OS is 32bit you must use 3- 4GB and the proceedure I posted in that thread above (4 posts or so down) for setting the VM cache to allow >2GB

With the older motherboard 2x2GB may not be possible... it may only allow 4 1GB sticks which can also reduce performance by increasing timing on the sticks to run 4 instead of 2

3 really does not do you any good becasue by the time the VM space is taken up you only get about 200-400MB of the 3GB in a 32bit OS so 4GB is the only way to go

A 64bit OS is not limited by that and will use it all


Thats all you can do

MS had no choice but to allow owners of VISTA Ultimate and VISTA Business the option to upgrade back to Windows XP a long time ago.

http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005512.html

The trade off is they are playing hardball with VISTA HOME and other VISTA version users cuz they are easy to push around