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Sep 17th, 2008 at 9:30pm

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Has anyone been keeping an eye on the ACO spec series's?  All I can say is that I've never been more excited about auto racing since I first became interested 7years ago.  Heres why:

-First hybrids coming out
-Unified GT series in 2010 (corvette vs porche vs ferrari!)
-ALMS "Green Challenge" at Petit and the '09 season
-Growing LMP1 class with Acura
-Incredible LMP2 class in the states

If I were an auto manufacture looking for research into alternative power sources for cars, I would be going crazy!  This has potential to be a much better proving ground than any other series out there.  Best part is that the racing is real, not the product of cheap rule changes.  LeMans this year was awsome, so was the previous 2 Sebring races, and plenty of the other tracks here in the states! Cool
 
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Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2008 at 9:44pm

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  I watch when I remember they're on. It's one of the few series I care to watch any more because of the variety.
  In contrast, to me the Rolex series is a joke.
 
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Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2008 at 9:50pm

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Sep 17th, 2008 at 9:44pm:
 I watch when I remember they're on. It's one of the few series I care to watch any more because of the variety.
 In contrast, to me the Rolex series is a joke.

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BTW:  now owned by the France fam


Yeah, I knew that. And it was their stupid idea to have a spec class and call it Daytona Protoype. It was halfway through the debut of the series at the Daytona 24 Hours I changed channels and vowed never to watch the Rolex series ever again. Judging by the frequency that they crash I think it must be a training class for future stunt drivers/crash test dummies. BTW, I think those are the most butt-ugly cars in the world. Grin
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 17th, 2008 at 11:02pm

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Sep 17th, 2008 at 10:59pm:
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Yeah, I knew that. And it was their stupid idea to have a spec class and call it Daytona Protoype. It was halfway through the debut of the series at the Daytona 24 Hours I changed channels and vowed never to watch the Rolex series ever again. Judging by the frequency that they crash I think it must be a training class for future stunt drivers/crash test dummies. BTW, I think those are the most butt-ugly cars in the world. Grin

this is true.  The series even spawned Milk and doughnuts, the plague of the IndyCar series
 
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Reply #5 - Sep 18th, 2008 at 12:06am

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Milk and doughnuts? Your kidding!  Grin Grin Cheesy Milk and cookies would be more fitting judging by the way some of the competition behaves. Wink
 
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Reply #6 - Sep 18th, 2008 at 5:35am

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Sep 17th, 2008 at 9:30pm:
Has anyone been keeping an eye on the ACO spec series's?  All I can say is that I've never been more excited about auto racing since I first became interested 7years ago.  Heres why:

-First hybrids coming out
-Unified GT series in 2010 (corvette vs porche vs ferrari!)
-ALMS "Green Challenge" at Petit and the '09 season
-Growing LMP1 class with Acura
-Incredible LMP2 class in the states

If I were an auto manufacture looking for research into alternative power sources for cars, I would be going crazy!  This has potential to be a much better proving ground than any other series out there.  Best part is that the racing is real, not the product of cheap rule changes.  LeMans this year was awsome, so was the previous 2 Sebring races, and plenty of the other tracks here in the states! Cool


"Le Mans"/Sports car racing has always been far more beneficial to motoring than the formula types, certainly in the early 90s. Now with Audi and Peugeot doing so well with diesels, people are less afraid to try new technologies without be scared of being completely uncompetitive. What would be nice is if we could have another two or three big manufacturers develop LMP1/competitive LMP2 (as Porsche have) to make it a bit more of a competition, rather than just an Audi/Peugeot shootout (thinking back to the group C days, with Jaguar, Mercedes. many Porsches, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda etc)
 
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"Le Mans"/Sports car racing has always been far more beneficial to motoring than the formula types, certainly in the early 90s. Now with Audi and Peugeot doing so well with diesels, people are less afraid to try new technologies without be scared of being completely uncompetitive. What would be nice is if we could have another two or three big manufacturers develop LMP1/competitive LMP2 (as Porsche have) to make it a bit more of a competition, rather than just an Audi/Peugeot shootout (thinking back to the group C days, with Jaguar, Mercedes. many Porsches, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda etc)



  Oh yes that was a great time. I also remeber the IMSA/Camel GT series in the 1980s. I can still remember when Jaguar debuted the GTP XJR-9. What a strange looking car, I thought.
I really do miss that series, especially when they had names the likes of Hobbs and Bell to name only a couple.
  I have models of the Taka-Q Toyota 88C & C-V and a Protar metal kit of the Rothmans/Porsche 956. Those cars from that era were just pure sexy. Wink
 
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Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2008 at 6:22pm

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a certain member here has an unhealthy obsession with classic le mans jags. As you can see by the looks he's getting from a member of staff at ASI this past jan.
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Reply #9 - Sep 18th, 2008 at 7:10pm

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Craig. wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 6:22pm:
a certain member here has an unhealthy obsession with classic le mans jags. As you can see by the looks he's getting from a member of staff at ASI this past jan.
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  What a strange looking car. Wink Grin Grin
 
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Reply #10 - Sep 19th, 2008 at 10:43am

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 7:10pm:
Craig. wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 6:22pm:
a certain member here has an unhealthy obsession with classic le mans jags. As you can see by the looks he's getting from a member of staff at ASI this past jan.
Whatastrangelookingcar.WinkGrin;D
TheJaguarXJR-9LMmostgorgeousracingcareverbuilt,otherthanitsyoungersibling,theXJR-12,whichwasvirtuallyidenticalexternally,buthadnicercolourschemes(Iwon'tgointogeekmodeandsaywhy!).Afullerview:[img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/hcjag111.jpg
 
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C wrote on Sep 19th, 2008 at 10:43am:
Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 7:10pm:
Craig. wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 6:22pm:
a certain member here has an unhealthy obsession with classic le mans jags. As you can see by the looks he's getting from a member of staff at ASI this past jan.
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/hcjag111.jpg


It is a bit like a super model though, all up front and no rear Grin

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Reply #12 - Sep 19th, 2008 at 3:30pm

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C wrote on Sep 19th, 2008 at 10:43am:
Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 7:10pm:
Craig. wrote on Sep 18th, 2008 at 6:22pm:
a certain member here has an unhealthy obsession with classic le mans jags. As you can see by the looks he's getting from a member of staff at ASI this past jan.
http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/hcjag111.jpg


 It reminds me of this:
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Yet another strange looking car.  Wink Grin Grin
 
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Reply #13 - Sep 19th, 2008 at 4:01pm

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Sep 19th, 2008 at 3:30pm:
 It reminds me of this:
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Yet another strange looking car.  Wink Grin Grin


God no! What's worse is in the 60's Chaparral design some nice looking  cars. The a ambitious aerodynamicist came along and came up with monstousities like that. Apart from the wheels, I can only see one curve!

For our Stateside friends, they may be more familiar with the Jaguar XJR-9 and 12 thus, with Castrol oil as the title sponsor, or later in Bud Light colours:


http://jaguarracing.xf.cz/wp-content/xjr-9.jpg

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1991/TN_Daytona-1991-02-03-002.jpg

I'll now wipe the dribble of my keyboard! Grin
 
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Reply #14 - Sep 19th, 2008 at 4:34pm

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so no one is a fan of the Sauber Mercedes C9?  I think it looks better than the Jag, and even set the Le Mans speed trap record at 253mph, I believe
 
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