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Sep 5^th, 2008 at 9:45pm

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We will start at Hewanorra International Airport (TLPL), overfly CAI (302.0), and land at Point Salines International Airport (TGPY).

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Saturday September 5 2008

Time: 20:00 BST

Speed: 120-140 knots

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Reply #1 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 12:19am

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BST? Boston Standard Time?

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Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 12:23am

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BigTruck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 12:19am:

BST? Boston Standard Time?

British Summer Time

Confuses me too. I wish everyone would stick with GMT

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Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 12:46am

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i will switch it back to GMT when it changes back.

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Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 1:41am

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I'm GMT -7 here in california daylight savings, what does that equate to with BST?

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Reply #5 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:59am

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BigTruck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 1:41am:

I'm GMT -7 here in california daylight savings, what does that equate to with BST?

..let me think now....

'Frisco time is BST - 7 hours...

...so...

I reckon...BST = 'Frisco time + 7 hours.... Wink

Wink

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Grin

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8 PM BST (GMT) Supper time in the evening in England = 1PM Dinner time in Frisco...(count backwards).... Smiley

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Make sure you've had your Mid-Day Dinner before you wheel your trusty Steed out of the Hangar..

...!

Keep this handy around the take-off time... Wink

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Truck....You are on the same Time Zone as a1...(LA).... Wink

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Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:05am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:59am:

BigTruck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 1:41am:

I'm GMT -7 here in california daylight savings, what does that equate to with BST?

..let me think now....

'Frisco time is BST - 7 hours...

...so...

I reckon...BST = 'Frisco time + 7 hours.... Wink

Wink

....

Grin

....!

8 PM BST (GMT) Supper time in the evening in England = 1PM Dinner time in Frisco...(count backwards).... Smiley

...!

Errm. Are you sure about that Paul? BST = GMT + 1

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224

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Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:15am

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Hagar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:05am:

Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:59am:

BigTruck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 1:41am:

I'm GMT -7 here in california daylight savings, what does that equate to with BST?

..let me think now....

'Frisco time is BST - 7 hours...

...so...

I reckon...BST = 'Frisco time + 7 hours.... Wink

Wink

....

Grin

....!

8 PM BST (GMT) Supper time in the evening in England = 1PM Dinner time in Frisco...(count backwards).... Smiley

...!

Errm. Are you sure about that Paul? BST = GMT + 1

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224

..it depends how many counting fingers you've got during the change over between British Summer Time and Greenwich Mean Time, Doug...

I have to keep checking my hands....(and the ones on my trusty clock)... Wink

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.... Grin

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I just keep a wary eye on here, around Take-off Time...>>>
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At the Moment, Greg (Jet Black 1) in Texas is 6 hours (Central Time) behind us in Rainy England... Wink

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Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:17am

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No wonder you chaps get confused. It would be much easier to work in GMT/UTC. http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx

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Reply #9 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:25am

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The biggest problem for us (over here), is when the Chaps (over there), organise their Flights for 8 PM (their time)....

We have to count forward 5, 6, or 7 hours, which places us (over here) tucked up safely in our beds, cuddling our Teddy Bears...

...!

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P.S. Note my great affection for using AM and PM rather than that confusing 24 hour clock malarkey... Cool

Cool

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Reply #10 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:32am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:25am:

The biggest problem for us (over here), is when the Chaps (over there), organise their Flights for 8 PM (their time)....

We have to count forward 5, 6, or 7 hours, which places us (over here) tucked up safely in our beds, cuddling our Teddy Bears...

...!

F.

That's what I mean. It would be much easier for everyone if you ALL work in GMT/UTC. That's the way it's done in the real world. Imagine the confusion if airlines worked to local time. Click my link to see the current time in GMT/UTC ---> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx

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P.S. Note my great affection for using AM and PM rather than that confusing 24 hour clock malarkey... Cool

Cool

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Silly old sod. That just confuses things even more. Tongue

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Reply #11 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:49am

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'Trubble is, it rarely relates to our differing local times, (the time on our wall clocks), when ready for a Multiplayer Flight..... Shocked

Shocked

...!

...fer instance....my clock in my wall tells me its 10:42 AM...but the GMT/UTC Clocks says its 9:42 AM...

...silly old GMT/UTC Clock!... Grin

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The same problem exists for them, (over there), during their Daylight Saving Hours... Sad

Sad

...!

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...24 hour clocks...
You would not believe the number of times I have watched my train at Paddington Station disappearing into the distance while I am trying to convert the 24 Clock time into the proper time on my Wrist Watch: eg; AM And PM...even whilst I was in the Army... Cry

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Reply #12 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:52am

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I always check the flight sim server, but it doesn't help me if I don't know what time to check Tongue

Tongue

So if I am GMT-7 then that would make me BST-8 right? Which means this flight goes at noon here...I'll be there if Im awake lol rough week at work!

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Reply #13 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:56am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 5:49am:

'Trubble is, it rarely relates to our differing local times, (the time on our wall clocks), when ready for a Multiplayer Flight..... Shocked

Shocked

...!

...fer instance....my clock in my wall tells me its 10:42 AM...but the GMT/UTC Clocks says its 9:42 AM...

...silly old GMT/UTC Clock!... Grin

Grin

...!

The same problem exists for them, (over there), during their Daylight Saving Hours... Sad

Sad

...!

F.

Should be no problem if you ALL work in GMT as I suggested. This clever little gizmo was created specifically for this sort of thing. http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx

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(UTC/GMT) Time Converter

If you have a web cast, online chat, teleconference call or other event where users from all over the world would want to attend at the same time, this (UTC/GMT) time zone converter offers you and your audience an easy way to quickly calculate the correct time that an event will take place in (UTC/GMT) compared to any other International location.

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Reply #14 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:19am

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a1 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2008 at 9:45pm:

Saturday September 5 2008

Time: 20:00 BST

Time: 20:00 BST (British Summer Time) = 19.00 or 7 pm GMT = 12.00 (noon) PDT (Pacific Daylight Time)

Note that a1 got the date wrong. It's Saturday 6th September.

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Reply #15 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:25am

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Hagar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:19am:

Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:09am:

There you go, Truck..
..courtesy of Doug...>>>

8 PM Supper-time in Wet England = 1 PM Dinner Time in Sunny California... Cool

Cool

...!

F.

Nononoooooo! Now you're confusing things again. Tongue

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Time: 20:00 BST (British Summer Time) = 19.00 or 7 pm GMT = 12.00 PDT (Pacific Daylight Time)

Note that a1 got the date wrong. It's Saturday 6th September.

I deleted my post Doug, 'cos it didn't help...
It didn't take into account our British Summer Time (GMT +1).

a1 organises the Tours for our 8 PM BST times which suits us (over here).

...it will be different (over there).

F.

...it's all plain sailing for a while...

...until all our bleedin' clocks get changed again to Local Time... Grin

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Reply #16 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:34am

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:25am:

I deleted my post Doug, 'cos it didn't help...
It didn't take into account our British Summer Time (GMT +1).

a1 organises the Tours for our 8 PM BST times which suits us (over here).

...it will be different (over there).

F.

I noticed that & modified my reply.

Quote:

...it's all plain sailing for a while...

...until all our bleedin' clocks get changed again to Local Time...

I still think it would be much easier for everyone if you ALL worked in GMT. Then local time makes no difference at all. That was the idea of GMT in the first place.

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Reply #17 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:40am

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I'm guessing, but we all probably look at the clocks on our individual walls and calculate the time from there...
..I know I do...
Which works fine...until our Local clock times get changed again... Cry

Cry

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We are all OK for a while....so make the most of it...LOL... Grin

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Reply #18 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:46am

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OK. I give up. Tongue

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Surely it's not that difficult to work out. http://www.aopa.org/path/time.html

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Aviation Time

Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is international time, the basis of the world time clock. It helps eliminate confusion across multiple time zones. It is also known as UTC (Coordinated Universal Time). Aviators commonly refer to it as Zulu time.

Aviators use this worldwide, 24-hour time to eliminate confusion about "a.m." and "p.m." and different time zones. It makes time comparisons and conversions easier.

Converting 12-hour to 24-hour time:

* No difference in morning hours, just precede with a "0" up through the 9 o'clock hour (6 a.m. = 0600).
* After 12 noon, just add 12 to the hours (3 p.m. = 1500).
* In either case, minutes follow hours (no colon) (0615, 1530).

Greenwich, England, was chosen as "zero hour" because it is longitude 0 degrees 0 minutes 0 seconds. If you live in the eastern United States, your local time is GMT minus 5 hours (4 hours for daylight-saving time [DST]); if you live in the West, your local time is GMT minus 8 hours (or 7 for DST). So if you're in New York City and it's noon, the Zulu Time is 1700Z (or 1600Z for DST). Because Zulu Time is based on a 24-hour clock, if it's 5 p.m. (DST) in New York City, that would be 2100Z (5 p.m. is 1700 hours, so it's 17 plus 4).

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Reply #19 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:56am

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...is it time to get annoyed with me, Doug?...LOL... Grin

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How our Chums in the US manage to communicate with each other is beyond me, when next-door neighbours, living in the same State, can have a different time on their wall clocks... Shocked

Shocked

...!
Three different Time Zones from East to West of the USA!
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Frustrated would be a better description. I know you're trying to wind me up but it won't work. Tongue

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How our Chums in the US manage to communicate with each other is beyond me, when next-door neighbours, living in the same State, can have a different time on their wall clocks... Shocked...!
Three different Time Zones from East to West of the USA!

I don't see why that would be a problem. The USA is a huge country. It's the same as dealing with different time zones in Europe or Asia. Before retiring I used to telephone people all over the world with no trouble at all. That's where GMT comes in so handy as it's the same all over the world & never changes.

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Reply #21 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 7:36am

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Hagar wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 7:02am:

Frustrated would be a better description. I know you're trying to wind me up but it won't work. Tongue

Tongue

Wink

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How our Chums in the US manage to communicate with each other is beyond me, when next-door neighbours, living in the same State, can have a different time on their wall clocks... Shocked...!
Three different Time Zones from East to West of the USA!

I don't see why that would be a problem. The USA is a huge country. It's the same as dealing with different time zones in Europe or Asia. Before retiring I used to telephone people all over the world with no trouble at all. That's where GMT comes in so handy as it's the same all over the world & never changes.

Hank and Dwayne both live in South Dakota*.

Hank has decided to go down the Pub.
He has previously arranged with his his good neighbour, Dwayne, just across the street, to meet him there.

The Pub is in Hanks Time Zone.
The time on Hank's wall clock is 8 PM.
He has previously arranged to meet Dwayne in the Pub at 8:15 PM

The time on Dwayne's wall clock is 7 PM, 'cos hes in a different Time Zone.

How do they both manage to join each other, at the same time, down at the Pub?

Does poor old Hank always have to get the Beers in an hour before Dwayne arrives each time?... Cry

Cry

...!

F.

(Dwayne always cursed his Parents for his name, anyway).

* South Dakota:...>>>
http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-usa12.php

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Fozzer wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 7:36am:

Hank and Dwayne both live in South Dakota.

Hank has decided to go down the Pub.
He has previously arranged with his his good neighbour, Dwayne, just across the street, to meet him there.

The Pub is in Hanks Time Zone.
The time on Hank's wall clock is 8 PM.
He has previously arranged to meet Dwayne in the Pub at 8:15 PM

The time on Dwayne's wall clock is 7 PM, 'cos hes in a different Time Zone.

How do they both manage to join each other, at the same time, down at the Pub?

Does poor old Hank always have to get the Beers in an hour before Dwayne arrives each time?... Cry

Cry

...!

F.

(Dwayne always cursed his Parents for his name, anyway).

I have no idea but I'm sure they've figured it out by now. Cheesy

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Reply #23 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 12:19pm

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Looks like a nice route, I'll be there!

Also, if it helps, I'm located in the Eastern US timezone, and the flights start at 3pm for me. Wink

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Looks like todays flight calls for:

caribbe_south.zip @ Avsim
lesserantillesmesh.zip @ Avsim

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Reply #24 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 2:13pm

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I'm seeing problems getting into the SimV server at 2:09 Eastern time.

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Still issues at 2:30 PM Eastern. Can't see the "who's on" site at all.

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JBaymore wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 2:34pm:

Still issues at 2:30 PM Eastern. Can't see the "who's on" site at all.

best,

................john

...are you looking here, John.?....>>>>

http://cockpit.netfrag.org:8090/

A few on line already, early.. Wink

Wink

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19:35 BST..at the mo'...

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Reply #27 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:05pm

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Excellent flight guys!
Fozz, I actually un-installed the scenery before I joined in, so I would not have the crashing problems like last time.

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Reply #28 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:15pm

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Excellent flight, looking forward to next week. Nice photos Sean.

The three most common expressions (or famous last words) in aviation are: "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?", And "Oh S...!" "You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3." ~Paul F. Crickmore (test pilot) "The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire." "Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you."

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Reply #29 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:18pm

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Super flight with a good crowd...as always!... Smiley

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The Scenery was fine, Sean....the Mesh, (or lack of), was a bit out though... Grin

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Reply #30 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:35pm

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Sorry I missed it, over slept a bit, will try again next week haha.

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Reply #31 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:43pm

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BigTruck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:35pm:

Sorry I missed it, over slept a bit, will try again next week haha.

Tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

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Still in Bed at Mid-day!... Shocked

Shocked

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Shame on you!... Wink

Wink

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Reply #32 - Sep 6^th, 2008 at 6:14pm

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BigTruck wrote on Sep 6^th, 2008 at 4:35pm:

Sorry I missed it, over slept a bit, will try again next week haha.

See ya online tonight? Wink

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