Simviation Forum - where did they all go?

Aug 29^th, 2008 at 7:52pm

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Ive got many, many woai packs installed and run into alot of traffic on my flights.... until now. One day I took a flight and there was no air traffic at all. I checked my settings and my ai traffic hasnt changed. Anyone have this happen before?

My specs... A hard drive, motherboard, graphics card, some memory, a keyboard, mouse, and monitor - in other words, nothing special.&&&&My Posky 777 VC settings - http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1218341439&&Posky 777 and FSX jetways - http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1228448408

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Reply #1 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 8:28am

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FSX?

Did you install the WoAI traffic files in their native FS9 format?... or did you convert them to FSX format?

If you converted them and then added any traffic file(s) in FS9 format, then FSX will ignore all traffic files in FSX format.

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Reply #2 - Aug 30^th, 2008 at 9:51am

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Im pretty sure every one of them was in FS9 format. I havent converted any of them to FSX... that I know of! haha

--EDIT-- Hmmm, nevermind. Dont really know what I did or didnt do... but its all back now! Cool

My specs... A hard drive, motherboard, graphics card, some memory, a keyboard, mouse, and monitor - in other words, nothing special.&&&&My Posky 777 VC settings - http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1218341439&&Posky 777 and FSX jetways - http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1228448408

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Reply #3 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 12:06am

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dave3cu wrote on Aug 30^th, 2008 at 8:28am:

FSX?

Did you install the WoAI traffic files in their native FS9 format?... or did you convert them to FSX format?

If you converted them and then added any traffic file(s) in FS9 format, then FSX will ignore all traffic files in FSX format.

First time I've seen this, what's this whole 'format' buisness? I just installed a bunch of WOAI packsinto FSX and so far no problems and I didn't do anything other than make sure that the planes wound up in the right place. Just curious before I install all of these military packs I just downloaded. Thanx for your time.

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Reply #4 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 10:30am

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You shouldn't have any problems with the packages you're installing. They're all in FS2004 format,

The 'format' business: There are slight differences between the internal formats of FS2004 and FSX ai traffic files (traffic*.bgl's). While FSX will run either FS2004 or FSX traffic files, it will not run both formats at the same time. If FSX 'sees' FS2004 traffic files it will run them, but it will ignore any FSX traffic files.

One effect of using the WoAI (or other) traffic files in FS2004 format is the default FSX traffic is ignored. This includes the commercial and ga traffic (TrafficAircraft.bgl) and the ships and ferries traffic (TrafficBoats.bgl). If this isn't a concern, then it is not a problem.

Another effect, if you're a stickler for detail, is that the 'day of the week' data has been shifted 1 day, so flightplans will be 1 day off.

At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation. Igor Sikorsky

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Reply #5 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 10:52am

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I don't mind losing the default plane ai, but what do I need to do to keep the ships, and does this include the cars? Huh

Thanx for the help!

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Reply #6 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 11:22am

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Cars, small boats, etc. are not affected, they are generated in a different manner.

The only way to keep your ships is to convert your FS2004 traffic files to FSX format.

There are 2 utilities available:

Flightplan BGL Converter-at the bottom of the page-simple '1-shot' converter. Extract the zip to a folder and run the .exe. No help file but simple to use.

AIFPC by Peter van der Veen-link in message #57- traffic file decompiler/compiler. Two step process to convert: 1-decompile FS2004 file; compile to FSX file. Also allows for the creation or editing of traffic files using the TrafficTools v2.02 method's .txt source files. Extract .zip to a folder and run the .exe. Help file included.

Both utilities allow batch processing and file renaming to distinguish FS2004 and FSX files.

At that time [1909] the chief engineer was almost always the chief test pilot as well. That had the fortunate result of eliminating poor engineering early in aviation. Igor Sikorsky

I intend to live forever....so far, so good. Steven Wright

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Reply #7 - Sep 1^st, 2008 at 11:43am

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Awsome! I already have these! Thank you so much for the help! Grin

I'm really bad for downloading everything I find for FSX! Grin

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