Simviation Forum - Adding Staic aircraft help please.

Jul 15^th, 2008 at 5:03am

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I drive round Bournemouth Airport 2 or 3 times a week & note that it's quite a busy place with lots of parked aircraft. My EGHH has very few & I'd like to add more static stuff.

I've downloaded the AI tutorial but it opens as gibberish. It may be corrupted? I'd be very grateful if someone could tell me how to add some aircraft (in simple terminology please!!) to give my regular airports more life.

Many thanks,
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Reply #1 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 5:18am

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Hi Terry. I assume this is for FS2004. As a first step may I suggest you download TTools & AFCAD. Both come with detailed instructions. Read them carefully & don't be too ambitious to start with. http://www.simviation.com/fs2004utilities1.htm

There are various front-end utilities available for TTools like Thomas Molitor's AITM which make it a lot easier. http://www.molitor-home.de/fs/aitm/

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Reply #2 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 12:51pm

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Thanks Hagar - I'll give it a whirl!
Terry.

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Reply #3 - Jul 15^th, 2008 at 2:02pm

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Blimey Hagar, I read through TTools but can't see anything about static aircraft. It's all about flying & movement whereas I just want mine to sit still. I assumed I could just download aircraft & site then where I wanted them?!! TTools, etc is a bit more complicated than I imagined. Shocked

Terry.

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Reply #4 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 2:36am

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You need a scenery placement program, EZ Scenery is perfect for this (payware). It enables you to place scenery objects in real time including static aircraft.

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Reply #5 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 4:23am

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Thanks ivormills. I was assuming you could add static aircraft like trees! Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 4:27am

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gypsymoth wrote on Jul 15^th, 2008 at 2:02pm:

Blimey Hagar, I read through TTools but can't see anything about static aircraft. It's all about flying & movement whereas I just want mine to sit still. I assumed I could just download aircraft & site then where I wanted them?!! TTools, etc is a bit more complicated than I imagined. Shocked

Terry.

Sorry. I misread your question. You might find creating static scenery easier but you would still have to find or create the aircraft macros to use with it. It's perfectly possible to use AI traffic as static aircraft by creating a flight plan where they move when you're unlikely to visit the airport. I still think this is by far the best method. Andrew Esselbach would be the best person to ask about this. He once covered Oshkosh with a large number of static AI aircraft. This was a long time ago & might have been in FS2002.

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Reply #7 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 4:36am

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Thanks Hagar. I got & installed Jersey & Guernsey airports some time ago & they came with static aircraft. I'll trawl my system for the zip files & see how that was done.....might be able to pop them into other airports. I remember being daunted about adding panel gauges at one time so this is another topic to beat!

I just wish my sim Bournemouth was as full as the real EGHH.

Cheers,
Terry.

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Reply #8 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 4:40am

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There's a little utility named MDLtoBGL that you might find useful. It works best with FS98 aircraft. There's plenty still posted at Simviation.

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Reply #9 - Jul 16^th, 2008 at 7:09am

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You will also find plenty of static aircraft that are ready to use in the many free ez library file downloads.

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Reply #10 - Jul 17^th, 2008 at 8:36pm

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gypsymoth wrote on Jul 15^th, 2008 at 5:03am:

I drive round Bournemouth Airport 2 or 3 times a week & note that it's quite a busy place with lots of parked aircraft. My EGHH has very few & I'd like to add more static stuff.

I've downloaded the AI tutorial but it opens as gibberish. It may be corrupted? I'd be very grateful if someone could tell me how to add some aircraft (in simple terminology please!!) to give my regular airports more life.

Many thanks,
Terry.

You will be better off by installing AI models and plan them to fly in the wee hours. That way when you are there, they will remain static.

You can do this using a text editor, such as note pad, along with TTools.
Or you can download a program that writes flightplans for you.
Just do a search for say, 'flight planner' in the file library to find one.

AI specific models usually will have a lower impact on frame rates than a mdl file used to create scenery, at least in my opinion.

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Reply #11 - Jul 19^th, 2008 at 2:04am

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gypsymoth wrote on Jul 16^th, 2008 at 4:23am:

Thanks ivormills. I was assuming you could add static aircraft like trees! Roll Eyes

... the FREE Rwy12 Object placer comes with a whole bunch of static a/c..........ready to be "planted" wherever you like.........simple to use and free too whereas EZ Scenery is better, but is Payware........

....using ai just for that involves a lot more knowledge ...such as using TTools to add the planes you want and to re schedule your flightplans to suit, also to have any number of these ai a/c around on a specific airfield would mean using AFCAD to add lots of new parking spaces to accommodate them..........and the taxi links to get them to work..........a lot of hassle just to get a few statics...........but good fun if you are into that sort of stuff or are prepared to learn

Just my opinion......commoner Wink

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