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Jul 7th, 2008 at 6:23pm

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Well, im looking to get an electric guitar.  Im a total noob as far as guitars are concerned, so Im looking for a beginners package with the amp, etc.  Ive done a little research and looked at a previous post on this forum about and I think the package on there looks good.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-RG7321-7String-Electric-Guitar?sku...
AC/DC is by far my favorite group and mostly what I want to play, so I want one that their music will sound good on.  Could use some guidance here.  Im assuming the humbucker pickups w/ the two coils?

Any assistance is appreciated.


 

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Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 12:15am

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Looks like a good choice... and it has good feedback...

But also consider other Ibanez guitars, and check out the Fender Squier Stratocaster... although it is an entry-level guitar, it sounds quite good!

Good luck with your purchase... Smiley
 

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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2008 at 4:41am

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As as guitarist/bassist, Iwould stronly suggest you get an acoustical guitar at first.
Learning the basiscs on an acoustical before moving on to electric will enable you to learn better techique and finer control that wiil make you a better electric player in the long run.
 
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Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2008 at 4:52pm

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sorry to bump this topic, but I believe I can help here... I started guitar very recently via a very similar approach, and I have several friends who are excellent guitarists...

Ibanez's in general are, I would say, very high quality guitars and that looks like a very decent starter package. I would say that your no.1 priority after buying this would be to get a really decent bag that is sturdy and can hold a lot of paperwork, such as song sheets etc - I'm drowning in the stuff already and I've only had two lessons! Grin

I disagree with Keep It Simple, by the way - I started on electric and I would actually say electric in general is easier, since electric guitars tend to be less bulky and their necks are more slimline, making it easier to get your fingers round when you're new to it, like I am.

As a case in point, my brother started a couple of years ago on acoustic, but didn't learn very much due to his teacher not being great at, well, teaching. He bought an electric about a week before I did and he says it is very similar to his acoustic. Indeed, when I play his acoustic, or my dad's acoustic, I find them to be pretty interchangeable with my electric - I can play both just as easily.
 

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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2008 at 1:38pm

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spitfire boy wrote on Sep 26th, 2008 at 4:52pm:
...............I disagree with Keep It Simple, by the way - I started on electric and I would actually say electric in general is easier, since electric guitars tend to be less bulky and their necks are more slimline, making it easier to get your fingers round when you're new to it, like I am.................


Actually as necks come in various shapes and widths, you can't make a blanket statement like that

A C&P:
"Profiles: A "C," "U," or "V?"
Neck profile (the "shape" of the neck) is probably the most personal element of a guitar. It affects how your hand and fingers "fit" the neck and how easily you can move from fret to fret. From early on acoustic guitars employed some variation of a "C" shape. Electric guitar makers have experimented extensively and a variety of profiles have evolved with the preferences of players. Jeff Beck's favorite Fender Stratocasters had a very fat "C" shape; current models of Fender's Custom Artist Jeff Beck Signature Strat have a smaller "C" to be more player-friendly.

Similar to the "C" is the oval neck profile. This offers a less pronounced curve at the back and has its followers. On the other side is the "U" - an almost-rectangular shape that appeared on many Fenders - perhaps best for players with long fingers. And Eric Clapton has favored a "V" neck that provides a comfortable groove down the middle. A variation on this is the "inverted V," that is thicker on the bass side and thinner on the treble side.

Width is as much a factor in the neck profile as shape, leading some guitar makers to abandon the letter analogy and begin describing profiles as "wide-fat" or "regular-thin" and so on, in which widths are "wide, regular or narrow" and depths range from "fat to regular to thin." This often provides a clearer description of the profile and can help you when you're shopping for guitars online. Parker and Paul Reed Smith use these types of descriptions.

So there are the "big three" elements of guitar necks. Sound like a lot? Once you start comparing guitars it'll all make sense! There's more to consider - fingerboards, fret sizes, headstock angles - ...."


So an acoustic  can have a "slim" neck just like an electric.

"Spanish" style acoustics for example, usually have a wide neck to allow easier finger picking etc..

Bottom line, an acoustical can have a very slim neck just as some electrics have.
As a gutar player, you shurly must know that choosing a guitar is a very personal thing and one must examine several to deterime one that feels comfortable in your hands, etc.

I stand behind my statement that an acoustic is the way to learn the basics as you will learn better finess in finger pressuer, etc that will translate into better electric playing also.

One must crawl before walking.

A good compromise would be a slim neck acoustic with an electric pickup

I would add that a beginner should get a quality guitar no matter what kind. Many beginning guitarists gave up simply because they tried to learn on a crap guitar that made it unnessarly difficult Smiley


 
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Reply #5 - Oct 5th, 2008 at 8:57am

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As a guitarist & musician for over 17 years now, I can say with much confidence that if your favorite band is AC/DC, then you should look at Epiphone beginner kits. AC/DC uses Gibson/Epiphone SG's and Les Pauls. A nice Epiphone SG, with a gig bag and small practice amp can be had for under $200 at just about any music retail store, and some Hastings and Borders book stores. Ibanez guitars are made more for quick shredding and fast speed riffs. I currently own 3 guitars, 2 bass,Tama drum kit, 2 acoustics, a violin, and a mandolin.
 The advice about learning on an acoustic first is a good poece of advice, as these are harder to learn and get right, but will indeed make you a far greater player in the long run.
 Before you go to Musicians Friend(not that there is anything wrong with them) check out Sweetwater online, most of the time they have killer deals that M.F. can't match. Wink
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 5th, 2008 at 11:04am

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One of my many Guitars...>>>>

http://www.imuso.co.uk/directory/reviews/electric-guitar-reviews/fender-squier-a...

Cant go wrong, at the price...£125...or less...Wink...!

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Reply #7 - Oct 5th, 2008 at 11:36am

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ShaneG wrote on Oct 5th, 2008 at 8:57am:
As a guitarist & musician for over 17 years now, I can say with much confidence that if your favorite band is AC/DC, then you should look at Epiphone beginner kits. AC/DC uses Gibson/Epiphone SG's and Les Pauls. A nice Epiphone SG, with a gig bag and small practice amp can be had for under $200 at just about any music retail store, and some Hastings and Borders book stores. Ibanez guitars are made more for quick shredding and fast speed riffs. I currently own 3 guitars, 2 bass,Tama drum kit, 2 acoustics, a violin, and a mandolin.
 The advice about learning on an acoustic first is a good poece of advice, as these are harder to learn and get right, but will indeed make you a far greater player in the long run.
 Before you go to Musicians Friend(not that there is anything wrong with them) check out Sweetwater online, most of the time they have killer deals that M.F. can't match. Wink



depending where your shopping for that SG the guitar center here in Colorado wants almost 700 for a brand new one and the cheapest was 325 used
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2008 at 12:03pm

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Don't look at the Guitarists on "U-Tube" and think if you spend mega-bucks on a snazzy, new, very expensive Guitar, you will be able to play as well, and as easily as them... Wink...!

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...very easy to be disappointed, disillusioned, and give up... (money wasted!)...... Cry...!

F...you hum it, I'll play it...Wink...!

 

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Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2008 at 3:04pm

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This post goes back a bit.  We haven't heard from Farmer Dave as to what, if anything, he bought.  If you're still here, do let us know what's happening.

I hesitate to put my two cents in here, there's enough advice.  I've had every kind of guitar over 45 years of playing.  For beginners, it's difficult to say what to buy.  Those beginner packages won't break your wallet, though. 

By the way, I've been checking prices of things lately between online stores, for the most part, they're all the same.  See for yourself.  I have reason to believe that these online stores (and don't get me wrong, they are all very good to do business with, reliable, and all have excellent return policies and support) get their gear from one central source.  1. Prices are almost always exactly the same.  2. I've noticed that certain "blem" items are listed in several stores for the same price and same "number left in stock".  

Whatever, online shopping is great, and you can easily and quickly shop around.  
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 7:16am

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Dr.bob7 wrote on Oct 5th, 2008 at 11:36am:
ShaneG wrote on Oct 5th, 2008 at 8:57am:
As a guitarist & musician for over 17 years now, I can say with much confidence that if your favorite band is AC/DC, then you should look at Epiphone beginner kits. AC/DC uses Gibson/Epiphone SG's and Les Pauls. A nice Epiphone SG, with a gig bag and small practice amp can be had for under $200 at just about any music retail store, and some Hastings and Borders book stores. Ibanez guitars are made more for quick shredding and fast speed riffs. I currently own 3 guitars, 2 bass,Tama drum kit, 2 acoustics, a violin, and a mandolin.
 The advice about learning on an acoustic first is a good poece of advice, as these are harder to learn and get right, but will indeed make you a far greater player in the long run.
 Before you go to Musicians Friend(not that there is anything wrong with them) check out Sweetwater online, most of the time they have killer deals that M.F. can't match. Wink



depending where your shopping for that SG the guitar center here in Colorado wants almost 700 for a brand new one and the cheapest was 325 used


For the Epiphone starter pack?  Huh Or just a nice stand alone SG?
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