wow these 2 posts from a while back are getting quite a response, even I've been slagged off on the second link.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LKgdFnN3F_0&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GAPsndyn8-Y&feature=related

One comment from a guy called KaptinKayoss was:
SIMVIATION can lick my nuts! As soon as I find out who the main players are, I'm going to pay a visit and literaly kill one.

Thats pretty strong so I'm off to hide under my duvet

Some of those people take this way too seriously......and some of their comments are totally out of line.....OK...they have a right to air their opinions about the aspects of the site they don't like, but these are disgusting allegations that are clearly false....

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remember him....I even met him at Bristol airport and he seemed OK....now, because he made a mistake by posting someone elses pic in the contest he is attacking the site.....

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BPB ... long time ago ... .... & I kind of agree with the guy about the 'clique'.

I also agree with Ramos ..... though I am regularly pissed off when I see regular members being responded to more than new members ...

I think it's overall a good video. 

It's always something we want to avoid here .... cliquishness that is .....   

Note that most of the arguments & bad feelings start in the Screenshot forums.* This has recently spread to the Video forum. Don't ask me why some people take these things so seriously but they seem to attract immature troublemakers. You only have to look at typical comments on YouTube to see what I mean.

*After my well-intentioned remarks in those forums upset a couple of people I now steer clear of them. Life's too short.

I was reading the comments and was thinking "What Simviation are they talking about?" sure a  few addons have been broken, missing pieces, etc. because it is freeware, and people make them in their extra time, for no charge. Even then, flawed aircraft like that are few and far apart, and are found on every freeware site. And at the forums, I have received nothing but help. People were being helpful and patient with my simple questions, but thanks to them my FSX runs and looks twice as good. I have yet to see one instance of a clique. Either this stuff happened long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away before I was a member, or those people are raving and ranting on and on because they just want somethng to criticise. Regardless of what they say, keep up the good work.

This is quite interesting Ive been a member of one or two forums (more car related than anything else) one for many years until fairly recently - and they are all the same, even on this one i can see similar things happening!

So although i havent been here for years and years, i feel slightly able to comment as its not long ago that i was a newbie myself, and i can remember it! - and i think people forget that just because your new to here or somewhere, youve not been elsewhere for many years and have experince of forums....


Although im not going to 'have a go' its just how forums are. Theres always a few who have been there longer than others and semingly stick together.

I could tend to agree with the point that certain people post just about anything screenshot wise and it always gets a good response, others post seemingly good shots and dont often get good responses, or no responses what so ever. Its just how it is and nothing i think will change it.....

Also certain people post shots and reply only to certain  people who tend to also reply only to them, but rarely do they reply to other people, who may not be part of the 'group' but again, thats just how forums are.

With vehicles it was posting pictures of said vehicle - it could be a shed, but as long as you were part of the 'gang' or 'group' then no matter, it was fantastic! If you were not however......

The sad thing is 'the group' would eventualy start disagreeing, as they felt that because they had been there for so long, then they had some sort of say in how the forum was run, and, inevitably, the bad feeling starts, and the split happens and the rival forum pops up and the original forum suffers and you sometimes, in extreme cases, lose good friends, for no other reason than a daft car forum!!

Ive seen it happen three times at least on one car forum that i was on, it caused such a problem that many leave and never come back, the 'rival' forum prospers then collapses as many realise its just a load of garbage and a way of getting back at other people.

It ruins the whole community, as in where we would have huge meetings all over the country, somtimes in excess of 100 cars at certain shows from one forum you end up with five or six little gatherings and small groups of cars not connected at shows - but this is only relevant to the car forum world i guess, but the principle is the same, the feelings they cause are the same, if you get to involved anyway!!!!!

The saving graqce on this forum i think is staying power. If you can get over the no response 'period' and keep contributing, reply to peoples posts positively, eventualy you become accepted.  Its maybe not the way it should work, but its often the way it does work!

I note Harold got some bashing in one of those youtube threads, but to me he always replied to most of my early attempts at screenshots, with advice and critique, and i thank him for that!

I do try to make a point of replying to a lot of things in the screenshot forums, mainly because the example was set by Harold to me in my first days here -  not maybe with harsh bashing, because i dont think that helps people, although if i have any advice i will offer it - but i think sometimes you have to judge the situation and choose your words carefully.

Occasionly i wont reply though because its difficult to appear helpful and at the same time not 'up your own arse' - its a tricky thing dealing with people, especaily with somthing they have put a lot of time and effort into, and be critical, but helpful at the same time!!

I still get a zero on the reply screen occasionly when posting shots or repaints, but rather than wonder why, i think its best to move on and try harder with your next shot! Its not really anything to get upset about

Sorry post over!!

Fly2e wrote on Jun 25^th, 2008 at 2:37pm:

Creative people tend to be sensitive to criticism of their work, especially when it's unwarranted or hurtful. That is perfectly understandable. I was referring to the troublemakers rather than the 'artists'. For example: the recent spate of posts by trolls (or a troll) in the Video forum complaining about music background to aircraft videos. This had obviously started on YouTube & the idiots tracked it & followed it here. The simple answer would be not to watch said videos if they offend them so much.

Fortunately this type of thing hasn't spread to the Photos forum yet. I live in hope.

People just make too much of a big deal. Simviation is just a small corner of the internet. Not necessary to make a big video complaint and threatening.

C wrote on Jul 5^th, 2008 at 2:56pm:


It's okay, i remeber when i was new here i dug up...i think it was around 0.5 Years old it was one of the FAQs in the FS2004 forum 

JSpahn wrote on Jul 6^th, 2008 at 9:46am:


Nicely said nerd... and i like your avatar

JSpahn wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 6:38am:


I can just fell i song coming... "i'm too sexy for my hair too sexy for me hair, sooo sexy it hurts"

And soory i've been awaye i have been hoked on CS:S